- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
The vote closes in one hour, whether or not I post at that time. If neither option at that time has a lead of two or more votes, I'll break the tie myself.
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
You think so? The sorcerers should be a single telepathy conversation (read: shouting orders and then moving on) and without the GO clone there's a serious chance some of the other royals could die. Where do you think we're going to trip up?
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
But we aren't splitting our attention! That's not how Multiform works!
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
But multiform gives us more attention it doesn't split it and in addition he's probably going to be more distracted by our GO clone smashing him and were not the ones communicating with the sorceress most likely were probably sending Maya to do it or if this isn't the case were probably just going to scream one telepathic order at them. Doing this also gives us a much better chance of hiding ourselves from him as well or at the very least holding him off long enough to complete the Spirit Bomb.
Okibruez
(Verified Mid-Boss)
- Location
- Dreams
[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
I mean, I'm not in favor of the GO form, but asking the sorcerers about that seems favorable, and if it's all or nothing, this works out, I guess?
Also, I'm sorry I tied it up again, if I did.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
I mean, I'm not in favor of the GO form, but asking the sorcerers about that seems favorable, and if it's all or nothing, this works out, I guess?
Also, I'm sorry I tied it up again, if I did.
AProcrastinator
You can Certainly Try
- Location
- Getting Somewhere
- Pronouns
- She/Hers
But as been stated by the GM and by other people multiple times, the Multiform doesn't split our focus. We can focus on the Spirit Bomb! Entirely! 100%! And while that's happening, we can still fight the dragon in one on one combat, which means A) he won't immediately charge headlong and attempt to destroy the person who's obviously charging up a huge attack (this problem is also solved by the sorcerers hiding us, which is why we're asking about that), and B) we may give the other people fighting enough time to recover, which means more people stay alive.
It's literally all positives and no negatives. Besides maybe possibly having to work with Dandeer, which I find equally distasteful, trust me. Heck, if the plan goes really well, we can even have Goldez Oozaru multiform give us her energy to give our Spirit Bomb a little extra oomph!
[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
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- Location
- Actually pretty lost
When you do, please note that @Jirachi47 appears to have borked his vote by making an [ASK] in another post, and doesn't seem to be online to fix it. He voted here:
- Location
- Oymyakon
I can see how some people are viewing this as SV's propensity to try and have their cake and eat it too, but we only have this opportunity because Kakara trained multi-form, to the detriment of other skills, to function at a very high level.
To me, not using multi-form here is like training extensively in Jaffur's style, then saying that it is too complicated, and distracting, to use that style when given the opportunity. Multi-form isn't new or distracting for Kakara, it's just one step below her highest skill level currently obtained (talented, right below exceptional) in her most advanced 'skill tree' (ki talents).
To me, not using multi-form here is like training extensively in Jaffur's style, then saying that it is too complicated, and distracting, to use that style when given the opportunity. Multi-form isn't new or distracting for Kakara, it's just one step below her highest skill level currently obtained (talented, right below exceptional) in her most advanced 'skill tree' (ki talents).
- Location
- USA
Poptart. That's like 4 hours for people to have enough time to recast their votes. That's kinda bullshit. Leave it open longer.
[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
Also, you might want to give a WOG drop to clear the air for the people arguing repeatedly with the same false information we already know is false.
Okay, lets be fair: we do actually not know how Multiform interacts with the Spirit Bomb, on account of it never coming up during the series. The critic may very well be correct that it causes issues with forming it.
We don't actually have any indication of such a thing, but we do have possible circumstantial evidence in that we can't produce a Shade while multiformed. If the Spirit Bomb requires some similar mechanism, it is indeed possible that producing a Multiform will interfere.
Thinking about it that way, I am no longer sure about multiform myself. I do wish we could alert the sorcerers though.
We don't actually have any indication of such a thing, but we do have possible circumstantial evidence in that we can't produce a Shade while multiformed. If the Spirit Bomb requires some similar mechanism, it is indeed possible that producing a Multiform will interfere.
Thinking about it that way, I am no longer sure about multiform myself. I do wish we could alert the sorcerers though.
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- Location
- USA
That's not the argument anyone is making though. They're all arguing that multiform splits attention or that it's SV trying to have our cake and eat it too
Edit: we explicitly know the former to be totally false, and the latter is basically saying we shouldn't be allowed the benefits of multiform outside of it giving us more AP
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- Location
- United States
[X] Feel the grass.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
We already felt the grass once before, when Gohan started teaching us. We went to the otherworld, while two clones were hanging with Fenn and our siblings and became one with everything. It did not affect us negatively.
All evidence we have point to it not being an issue.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
@PoptartProdigy I don't know if it was here or in the RP, but I know I asked you if the exiles were at all aware of psychics. You said they didn't even remember that Chaotzu was one.
You lied to me and I am miffed.
You lied to me and I am miffed.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
For what it's worth, it read more to me as kakara thinking back and realizing "wait that wasn't ki TK that was a different kind of TK".
But then again I'm bad at reading into this sort of thing, so... :shrug:
- Location
- USA
And more voting just feel the grass without even saying why the don't like the purely positive add ons. No one even attempting to debate beyond restating the same (false) point that has been repeatedly brought up
AProcrastinator
You can Certainly Try
- Location
- Getting Somewhere
- Pronouns
- She/Hers
POINT OF ORDER
POINT OF ORDER
No matter which side wins? And no matter what happens in the next update because of it?
Let's try and keep the "I told you so's" to a minimum, alrighty, everyone? I've seen too many things like this destroy a thread's playerbase.
POINT OF ORDER
No matter which side wins? And no matter what happens in the next update because of it?
Let's try and keep the "I told you so's" to a minimum, alrighty, everyone? I've seen too many things like this destroy a thread's playerbase.
dragonx99 brought it up, and it's a valid point.
The whole thing comes down to, in my mind, the risk of multiform ensuring that attempting the Spirit Bomb fails, versus the risk of not multiforming and getting the sorcerers involved. Remembering the interaction between multiform and shades pushed the balance of risk towards "multiform causes problems" enough that I didn't want to risk it.
Also true, but we don't know the fundamental mechanisms. We know multiforms are connected somehow, and it's possible that the multiform being GO counts as impure for the purposes of the Spirit Bomb. Of course, I suppose we can then just dispel the multiform...
*sighs* @PoptartProdigy, does Kakara have any idea of how multiform would interact with the Spirit Bomb?
[X] Feel the grass.
-[X] Have a Multiform in Golden Oozaru form distract the Dragon.
-[X] Ask the sorcerers if they can make it so the dragon can't sense us charging our attack.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[x] Feel the grass.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Hopefully a tie means Kakara uses the extended plan, since the thread represents her thoughts and we have been constantly making arguments about why it is a good choice.
Edit: Fictionfan, you usually participate. Any insight on why not the extended plan? We heard aranfan's reasoning already
Edit: Fictionfan, you usually participate. Any insight on why not the extended plan? We heard aranfan's reasoning already
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