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[X] Yes

Huh. That didn't quite explode.

I still think we should have just repeatedly our Dad's story, or said that Dandeer really does seem to hate us.

Oh well, the time has passed.
 
[X] Yes

Huh. That didn't quite explode.

I still think we should have just repeatedly our Dad's story...
In all sincerity, I can think of nothing more likely to turn Papata from a neutral (but incisive) interviewer into a hostile interviewer. She's been publicly anti-Sealing and uncomfortable with the status quo for a long time. If we tried to recruit her for the Conspiracy, I suspect she might ally with us here and now.

In fact, I think we should seriously consider doing exactly that. Her celebrity could be a powerful asset in the court of public opinion.
 
Aww. We should be dominating the conversation with Kaiju-busters recruitment.

Thinking about it, I am not sure how effective they would be. Even if their power level is maximum, that makes only 30 millon as Oozaru. They could use kaioken to combine stronger ki attacks but the boost would be for a little while and wouldn't increase their tankiness by much.

They would need something like kaioken times ten and that is a hard technique to learn... so we would need people who could use it exceptionally well, who capped their power level when culturally they are encouraged to keep their max in the seven digits unless they are house heads or tournament fighters and the attrition would be terrible since the dragon could one shot a bunch of them at the same time.

You would need 5 capped oozaru using kk times 10 for a single attack at the power level of a golden ape. If you are relying on combining beams of the others, that implies the ones from the ss were not enough and if 6 billion PL worth of combining beam doesn't make it... the others wouldn't last enough for there to be a chance to have the theoretical 20 Oozaru using kaioken x10 to shot a beam equivalent to the one the GO can do together. They would die before then. We are 50 times more tanky than them as monkeys and we were wounded in our vision.
 
Thinking about it, I am not sure how effective they would be. Even if their power level is maximum, that makes only 30 millon as Oozaru. They could use kaioken to combine stronger ki attacks but the boost would be for a little while and wouldn't increase their tankiness by much.

They would need something like kaioken times ten and that is a hard technique to learn... so we would need people who could use it exceptionally well, who capped their power level when culturally they are encouraged to keep their max in the seven digits unless they are house heads or tournament fighters and the attrition would be terrible since the dragon could one shot a bunch of them at the same time.

You would need 5 capped oozaru using kk times 10 for a single attack at the power level of a golden ape. If you are relying on combining beams of the others, that implies the ones from the ss were not enough and if 6 billion PL worth of combining beam doesn't make it... the others wouldn't last enough for there to be a chance to have the theoretical 20 Oozaru using kaioken x10 to shot a beam equivalent to the one the GO can do together. They would die before then. We are 50 times more tanky than them as monkeys and we were wounded in our vision.
If somebody stood in front and played tank though, that'd make it viable.
 
Thinking about it, I am not sure how effective they would be. Even if their power level is maximum, that makes only 30 millon as Oozaru. They could use kaioken to combine stronger ki attacks but the boost would be for a little while and wouldn't increase their tankiness by much.

They would need something like kaioken times ten and that is a hard technique to learn... so we would need people who could use it exceptionally well, who capped their power level when culturally they are encouraged to keep their max in the seven digits unless they are house heads or tournament fighters and the attrition would be terrible since the dragon could one shot a bunch of them at the same time.

You would need 5 capped oozaru using kk times 10 for a single attack at the power level of a golden ape. If you are relying on combining beams of the others, that implies the ones from the ss were not enough and if 6 billion PL worth of combining beam doesn't make it... the others wouldn't last enough for there to be a chance to have the theoretical 20 Oozaru using kaioken x10 to shot a beam equivalent to the one the GO can do together. They would die before then. We are 50 times more tanky than them as monkeys and we were wounded in our vision.
My bet is on massed barrages of piercing/cutting attacks such as the Destructo Disk. Some of that may come from powered-up oozaru, some not- but with good timing and good tactics it might actually help.

Hard to be sure, though. I'd trust Berra's judgment, along with that of Apra and Yammar, in the matter. In some ways all of this parallels the plans various generations of royals (and regular saiyans) have made for dealing with a rogue Super-Saiyan Two.
 
Well I think it's pretty safe to assume that Papata is probably going to ask about either of the last two lines of questioning, during this "behind the scenes conference." So the question is... can we trust her to keep what we say off the record and, more importantly, can we trust her not to take what we say off the record and not try to use it to get us to slip up while on the record? (Recalling, of course, that she has amazing communications skills and thus we can't necessarily take what she says or what she seems like at face value.)

If not, then I think we need to double down on our current position of No Comment. If pushed, there are several plausible lies and half-truths that we can use to justify our position. For instance: "Regardless of whether it was right or wrong, the night of the Sealing is comprised of some of the worst memories of my life. I really don't like dredging up those memories, so please stop pushing me on it... and that's all I'm going to say about it." A nice, sidestepping answer that can be read as both pro- and anti-sealing, allowing her to read into it what she will but not giving her anything that she can turn around on us when we go back on air. The same goes for a question about Dandeer. Find a nice middle ground, something that basically says that regardless of any personal problems there may or may not be between us, it's not our place to air any dirty laundry in public.

But for the most part I do think she can be trusted, at least partially, so I advocate something more along the lines of this: Start of by asking her straight out if she can be trusted and if this conversation will be off the record. It costs literally nothing to ask, and adds weight to the following conversation. Then answer the questions while coaching all the answers in hypotheticals. If the sealing didn't go as advertised, then hypothetically the little girl involved might not have had the strength to oppose the official story until much later. And in the midst of the current crisis, (not revealing the Dragon here, just referencing the imminent alien invasion,) if someone had any World Shaking Revelations, they might hypothetically not reveal them right now to avoid a civil war when our people really need to be united. And even if we did hypothetically disagree with the sealing as she seemed to be insinuating in her questions, we couldn't possibly do anything about it in public. And of course there's nothing anti-sealing going on in private, hypothetically, because gosh darnit that would be treason against the Lord Goku and the Vegeta clan's regent, now wouldn't it? And as for Dandeer, while we couldn't possibly speak for her, it is hypothetically possible that she doesn't agree to Jaffur's/Jaron's training and wants to keep him safe and secure and as far away from anything even remotely saiyan-like as possible because she's a total idiot... you know, hypothetically.

Or at least, that's how I'd do it.

EDIT: (Forgot to actually put in my vote.)
[X] Yes
 
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[X] Yes
No. of Votes: 12

Total No. of Voters: 12

...o_O Y'all know you didn't have to vote to take the interview, right? There was a no option. And a yes option. Which...22 of you...chose. 33 if you count the ones that wanted to demand that it not be live. And all of 0 against.

Y'all are a mystery to me sometimes, y'know that? ;) Update arrives tomorrow!
 
Alright! Things seem quiet and I finally updated my other quest. Vote closed!

Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 737 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 18410-18439]
##### NetTally 1.9.8

[X] Yes
No. of Votes: 12

Total No. of Voters: 12

...o_O Y'all know you didn't have to vote to take the interview, right? There was a no option. And a yes option. Which...22 of you...chose. 33 if you count the ones that wanted to demand that it not be live. And all of 0 against.

Y'all are a mystery to me sometimes, y'know that? ;) Update arrives tomorrow!
It is very hard for us to resist chances to use our communications skills. We have worked hard on them. Also the interview feels like a kind of free action.
 
I'm referring to the fact that 33 people opted to take it, but it's been like pulling teeth getting people to vote on how. Which is funny.
Of the two subvotes on "how to handle the interview" to date, one involved fiddly detail and the other involved near-unanimity among the participants as far as I can tell.

If you want high voter participation, from what I've seen it's usually best to have subvote structure to support it, so that each individual decision being made reduces to a short list of options. The main advantage of plan voting is that it lets the fiddly-detail people construct plans while everyone else can just pick one of the short list of leading plans, which gives you some of the best of both worlds.
 
Isn't This Supposed To Be More Maya's Problem?
[X] Yes

Isn't This Supposed To Be More Maya's Problem?
You give her a bright smile and reply, "Sure thing!" with a chirp in your voice.

Her smile widens for a moment before she pivots back towards the edge of the stage and walks off, beckoning for you to follow. You hop up and do so. The audience cheers as you leave.

You shake your head as you pass off-stage. You're still not used to that.

"Feels weird, right?" says Fren, grinning down at you.

You blink, snapping out of the momentary fugue. "Um. I..."

She tilts her head at you, cocking an eyebrow. "Yes?"

You look down. "Okay, yeah. A little."

"You get used to it," she says, leading you on through the backstage area. "Most of the time, anyway. Sometimes it'll still hit you. That's just about all of the Exiles out there, and they're cheering for you."

You flush. "I mean, you're out there too..."

"I am not Princess Kakara," she says, smirking.

"Scion Kakara," you say on reflex.

"Half the world thinks of you as a Princess," she says, waving her hand. "And they're cheering for you because you went out there and acted like one should."

Your flush deepens. You've had compliments before, but from this woman? This woman who could, if she weren't probably soft-balling her questions, run rings around you? This woman who's taken the art you love and mastered it beyond anything you could imagine? "What do you mean?" you ask, trying not to grin like an idiot.

"You came out there with a message you wanted to sell, justifying who you are and the choices you've made instead of scraping in the dirt for a bit of validation," she says, opening a door for the both of you. "And I'd say you did pretty darn well." She steps through, and the two of you enter a dressing room.

At least, that's what you assume this is. It looks the part, even if it's pretty bare-bones given the speed of the construction. Fren takes a seat and gestures towards the other chair in the room, smiling. "There you go. Oh, and..." She plucks the microphone off of her shirt collar and pinches it into shrapnel. "Just to be clear about this."

You blink and smile. "Thank you."

She crumbles the remnants of the electronics off to the side. "Of course. I mean, either of us could still have one on under our shirts, but that..." She shrugs. "Eventually you just have to trust somebody, you know?"

You nod eagerly, paying close attention.

She props her chin up on her hand. "Off the record, Scion, what are you trying to get at today?"
Communication [Fren vs. Kakara]: 178 vs. 132.
You shrug without thinking. "I...don't really have any one thing in mind." You blush, a little embarrassed to admit that to her. "I mean, you invited me and I came, but it's the first time I've been up in front of everybody, and, well...there's a lot I need to talk about. I was ready for a lot of things, but I didn't have any one thing."

She nods and adopts a more clinical, lecturing tone. "That's a purpose. You're here to make an impression. You've appeared to the Cult, you've appeared to individuals. Now you're appearing to our people. You need to have a message in mind. An image. Which I saw that you did."

"Yeah!" you say, nodding as you listen. "I was trying to be a little casual about it. I want to look like I'm taking it seriously, but I didn't want to act all stiff and formal."

"It would have been out of place for the setting I gave you," she says, extending her fingers to cover her mouth.

The gesture cuts off a lot of your ability to read her expression, and you feel a little anxious. "Did...did I do it right?"

"I'd say so, yes," she says, a chuckle in her tone.

You duck your head, crestfallen. "...you're laughing at me."

"No, no!" she says, although she does laugh. Her hand comes away, revealing a bright grin. "Well, yes, laughing, but not at you."

"What at?" you ask, folding your arms.
Communication [Fren vs. Kakara]: 152 vs. 79.
"...you're adorable," she says, still grinning.

Your eyes widen, and you turn crimson. "Eep?" Your eyes widen further, and you slap your hands over your mouth, wishing that you could sink into the floor. Kais on high, this is how Maya feels all the time why meeeeeeeee?

Fren laughs again in spite of herself. "You are! You're twelve years old, but you're doing so well. It's impressive, and amazing to see, and it is adorable. I'm Vegetan, Scion. My nobility is formal and distant and never speaks to a journalist without using the social protocols. You are a cute little girl who leaks earnestness like a sieve." She curls up in her chair, giving you a wide smile.

You hide your face in your hands. "Thank you," you say, grinning wildly at the praise even as bashfulness strangles the words to squeaks. "I. Um. Thanks. That means a lot."

"Do you listen to my show?" asks Fren.

"I will," you say, instantly wondering whether you should have not said that. "But, um. No? I mean, just the yearly round-ups, I don't think it's dumb, I just-"

"It's fine, it's fine," she says, waving it off. "Somebody as comfortable with human culture as you has TV. Especially at your age, I know it's more interesting unless you like what's on the radio a lot." She leans back as you begin to master your blush and lower your hands. "I have to admit, I'm even more impressed with you now than I was out there. You're keeping it together very well if this is how you react to somebody praising you."

You giggle nervously. "Well, not everybody knows this stuff like you. I can tell you're better than me. And, um. Nobody. Actually calls me adorable? So I'm...not really sure how to react to that and I kinda feel like I'm breaking down and now I know how Maya feels all the time and. So." You blush again. "...did any of that make sense?"

"I think I just about managed to follow it, yes," she says, eyes sparkling. "Tell you what," she says, uncurling her legs and leaning forward, getting on eye level with you. You mimic the pose without a second's thought as she says, "I think you and I could work together on this, Scion," she says. "I have my own questions, yes, but I don't think we can't help each other here."

You get a bit of control over yourself and give her a guarded look. "I mean...it depends on your questions..."

"I'm not going to press you if you tell me you can't talk about it," she says. "I do want to ask again, though: you really can't talk about what caused you to withdraw from public recently?"
Communication [Fren vs. Kakara]: 112 vs. 91.
You relent a bit, shrugging. "I can't, but Dad's making an announcement really soon. It's short-notice, so I don't think he's sent invitations yet, but I'm pretty sure you'll be there."

"That's good enough for me," she says. "Other than that, I really did want to dig in to your Masqued life. A lot of people aren't the happiest about it, but I can see that there are so many fascinating stories there! Especially with your friend Jaron," she says. "I know that what you've said already is how you plan to move on, but do you think we could get some stories on that when we're back out there and chatting again? After that, I wanted to move on to talking about your appearance at the Ancestral Council. It was your first public appearance, but for anybody not a part of the Faith, it's all been secondhand. People have been dying to know. What do you say?"



Papata Fren is offering you the chance to work with her as a friendly interviewer if you work with her on what topics she wants to cover. Your response?

[ ] Yes. A thousand times yes. You want this woman on your side. *fangirling intensifies*
[ ] No. While nothing she's suggesting sounds objectionable, that itself is a little odd. You can still remember how she went for the throat near the end of that last bit of the interview.
[ ] Write-in. Counter-offers such as, "yes on this topic, no on this one," go here.

THIS VOTE IS NOW CLOSED.

Kakara is turning thirteen years old soon. She was going to be a massive fangirl about something eventually. :rofl: Is there a bit of Mentor Crush in there as well? Who knows? Not Kakara; romance is still not on her mental map to a significant extent (the winning vote last time was literally, "dunno, haven't thought about it"). Not even she knows whether or not she likes girls. All she knows is that Papata Fren is really good at this and would totally be able to run rings around Kakara and she's so cool-

You get the idea. Little girl who gets nearly zero praise for her attitude and preferred skill set suddenly has somebody praising her for it? I'm sure you remembered what happened when Cynthia Balor did that, and Cynthia has no obvious qualifications as an expert in the art of being a pacifist the way Papata is so obviously skilled at the art of talking with people.

Hope you enjoyed the update, folks! Sorry about the delay; been harder to find free time lately, but I'm back in the game! See you soon!

TWO-HOUR MORATORIUM, AS PER USUAL
 
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