- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
It is intended to be humorous, not hurtful. @Aranfan - if it is hurtful, let me know and I will remove it.
Well, he lives in Australia and its been over nine hours since he logged in so I am not sure he will even learn we need them on time. He is going to get a lot of alerts next time he does, that's for sure.Eh, it's not like all hope is lost for them, @Andres110 still hasn't chimed in, and he has as many cookies as I do.
We'd likely be only one or two cookies away, as the plan only had a 3% chance of failure, and less points of failure.This isn't about "consequences" it's about "bad rolls". What if the rolls were bad on the "pacifist" option, and we were still a couple cookies away from preventing HapCon1?
You can't be sure this wouldn't be happening with Gore's plan; Poptart isn't giving us a blow-by-blow yet.
*raises hand* I would like to point out that I said that combat was riskier then people thought.Granted, that is our fault for not pointing it out or trying that but we thought Kakara had this in the bag and that we could keep the other scouts in the dark for a while longer.
We currently have 2 cookies going into the Deceit roll. 1 more will save that one, 2 more on top of that will save the last HAPCON 1 roll, and then that leaves one less important roll, which only requires 1 cookie to save (though we can probably leave that one.
If you don't have enough cookies to ensure a success, do they still reduce the severity of the failure?
You went a very strange way about that first point, and the third point was never an option.That is genuinely untrue. All of us really wanted to stop this from happening, and we wanted to stop Maya from feeling us go 500k and minimize the chance that the other scouts learned anything about us. At this point, things can either get fucked up very badly or they can be completely salvaged.
Except I even offered a compromise, where we asked our father. No one was willing to consider it, and I wasn't willing to split the vote if there wasn't any support for it. And I couldn't think of any other way to go about this, but of course a possible compromise is suggested afterwards:The better way to spend our time would be to figure out how we could have been convinced to better like your plan, or how we could have compromised on some points in order to get a plan everyone could have boarded on.
Well, you're assuming he and the other scouts would have surrendered/backed down without the offer of peace: they seem to come from a fairly brutal society. Offering a chance for peace and negotiation means they can risk it, if we don't, then it would be a better idea to risk fighting their way out. Or it might have been the other way around, and offering peace is something they innately view with suspicion. I have no idea, but I think offering peace had a better chance of success.The pacifist option had us unilaterely decide policy of our planet and get word of our existence out upon its success. You could have done the same plan sans the whole "offering peace via scouter" and just telling this one to surrender when he saw our power level. It would still have managed to stop him without violenceand it would have give us the chance of convincing the others to attempt it without souring their goodwill by forcing them into it and without revealing our society (not that we are saiyans but that we are here).
It was less about attempting peace and more about giving the finger to the masquerade (in regards to other planets, not the garenhulders).
Granted, that is our fault for not pointing it out or trying that but we thought Kakara had this in the bag and that we could keep the other scouts in the dark for a while longer.
I'd appreciate it if @PoptartProdigy could give us a rough estimate of when the cookies have to be in by.
Wait. I can't believe we forgot.
@PoptartProdigy Endivan should still have his kid masque on. Was he evacuated to the Hall or is he still in the city like all our human friends? I mean, I doubt Berra would risk him but if he really wanted to sell us as humans to Maya it is not like he can have half our family disappearing.
Actually, would Dandeer be panicking now? Both her children are in the city and trapped in masques an her PL is kind of low too...
We currently have 2 cookies going into the Deceit roll. 1 more will save that one, 2 more on top of that will save the last HAPCON 1 roll, and then that leaves one less important roll, which only requires 1 cookie to save (though we can probably leave that one).
If you don't have enough cookies to ensure a success, do they still reduce the severity of the failure?
You already have that amount of difference at this point. Good idea, though! And yes, I did convert that into a bonus.I think I'm missing a cookie. The omake I made with Sophie, that seems to have been turned into a modern bonus, even though it was made in the age of cookies.
@PoptartProdigy, would an increase in power level rather than stats be better for combat? IIRC, a difference of 20% is considered to be an overwhelming one.
It is open warfare on the planet...This isn't really a life/world-threatening thing, so I think I'll save my cookies.
This isn't really a life/world-threatening thing, so I think I'll save my cookies.
And that is why "following orders" is not always a great idea.This is going to go down as the greatest failure of Kakara's life by far.
SNRRRKThis is going to go down as the greatest failure of Kakara's life by far.
And that is why "following orders" is not always a great idea.
Of course, we cleared the plan with Cabba and Berra first, so they're liable to be under fire as well.
Actually, this is what he said:As Poptart said, the winning plan was less likely to work because of how many points of failure it had. Now I just really wanna just go to 200k and fight him instead of all that other stuff, which Poptart said we judged as to take about 20 seconds to subdue him.
More points of failure was just one reason. Another is likely that we've got a shit-ton of bonuses to communication checks, meaning that such actions are less likely to fail, if not impossible to do so....significantly lower. More points of failure, for one thing.
Also Karkara will probably be blamed.It is open warfare on the planet...
I mean, I get some people are not too attached to the masquerade but it is suposed to be one of the main aspects of our culture.
Or our father. Especially if we throw him under the bus.