- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
We know this isn't a trigger issue of her father's and we know that his impulsiveness only extends to those triggers. So we know he won't be impulsively mean. And for all of his faults, Berra isn't a bad person - he might try and set Maya up with some Saiyan friends (and cross his fingers and hope for a relationship to develop, which is really no worse than anyone being "set up" with someone by someone else) but he's not going to be mean, which is what's being asked.
How on Earth are you going to convince the preteen in love with her superpowers to stop using them, exactly? And at a power level of 70,000+ any emotional outburst in school will be detected by her watchers. Remember, we've had explicit confirmation from @PoptartProdigy that her ki control isn't anything special.
- Location
- Scotland
I SAW THAT INVISIBLE TRAIT EMERGING POPTART
YOU CANT FOOL ME.
[X] "Maybe."
-[X] "He might get a little annoyed with me for not telling him about you sooner, which I won't regret by the way, But he'd never be angry at you for using your natural abilities.".
- Location
- Australia
I'm willing to settle on either of these as a compromise vote, just not "Yes". We don't trust Dad completely, nor should we, so not only would it be a lie, it would be a lie in bad faith. But damn is this lack of preferential vote annoying.
Irrelevant. He's still capable of making the wrong choice here, of doing the wrong thing despite having time to think about it. He has the potential to do a mean thing, so we're not completely sure he won't.
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- Location
- Australia
She's asking "Are you sure he won't do anything mean?" We're not completely sure. He might do the right thing, but he might also do something like one of those "not quite" arranged marriages after some thought. Telling her that we're completely sure he won't be mean is a lie.
- Location
- United Kingdom
[X] "Maybe."
-[X] "He might get a little annoyed with me for not telling him about you sooner, which I won't regret by the way, But he'd never be angry at you for using your natural abilities.".
Seems good. One problemishes is we don't necessarily know what Maya classes as mean. She probably has a hair-trigger for any slight against her/her abilities. This tells her Dad won't stop her using her abilities, and that if he's annoyed at anyone, it's going to be us.
-[X] "He might get a little annoyed with me for not telling him about you sooner, which I won't regret by the way, But he'd never be angry at you for using your natural abilities.".
Seems good. One problemishes is we don't necessarily know what Maya classes as mean. She probably has a hair-trigger for any slight against her/her abilities. This tells her Dad won't stop her using her abilities, and that if he's annoyed at anyone, it's going to be us.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Being set up with hot dudes as friends in the hope they'll hit it off isn't bad though. Many people set other people them up with potential dates - sure he has a reason for doing it, but it's not intrinsically bad or wrong. It's not like anyone'ws being made to marry anyone else - if they don't hit it off, it doesn't happen.
Except it's not? "Yes" would be a lie.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
No, "Yes" would be the truth - whatever Berra decides to do (and frankly, he's unlikely to do anything too objectionable to the potential galaxy-class powerhouse) he's not going to be mean about it.
1) You don't know that.
2) The mere fact that Kakara thought about all that stuff indicates that no, she can see it happening.
So if there's even the slightest doubt of Kakara's part, then the answer cannot be "yes" and truthful at the same time.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Ah.
The fact that Kakara considered all of that means that she's considering it -- she is pondering whether or not it applies. Just because it is mentioned doesn't mean that the POV character has concluded, "Yep, 100% sure that could happen."
It just means that those are the hidden factors of which Kakara is aware and Maya is not, and thus being asked the question brings them to mind.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
She thought about the past actions of previous lords and ladies, and then about how Dad can be impulsive on certain blind spots.
We are then told we don't believe this is a trigger issue of those blind spots. So no, I disagree - that's just her considering exactly what would constitute "mean" in this case.
Ahhh!
'd!If she even considers Berra do anything that Maya would consider mean a possibility, though, "no" is at least as truthful an answer as "yes".Ahhh!
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Well, I suppose that's what this vote is for - do we think that's the case? Whatever "patient and wise Berra" will do, it won't be mean. So literally speaking, I firmly believe the answer is "Yes".
Also, aside from being literally correct, Maya's going to get caught at some point if she doesn't come forward herself, and "mean" things are far more likely to happen in that case.
Which is pretty much what my write-in for "maybe" is, except for the guaranteed part. "He probably won't be, and telling him might get you benefits, but if you don't there's a chance you'll get caught, and then you probably wouldn't like the result."
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
True, but I think "Yes" is not only still literally true, but avoids the knee-jerk doubt that comes with the word "maybe" in response to a direct question - if it was a "Yes" write-in I might go for it, but those aren't allowed. I'm voting for "Yes" to avoid vote-splitting, and because the practical concerns of "if you don't tell Dad and he finds out we're both in trouble, and I might have my treasonous activities discovered" mean possibly not convincing her is pretty unacceptable in my view.
Basically, the longer the delay here the less room he has to be the nice father and the more politics will weigh in
ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
[X] "Maybe."
-[X] "He might get a little annoyed with me for not telling him about you sooner, which I won't regret by the way, But he'd never be angry at you for using your natural abilities.".
-[X] "He might get a little annoyed with me for not telling him about you sooner, which I won't regret by the way, But he'd never be angry at you for using your natural abilities.".
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
[x] "Yes."
Reasoning:
1) We are answering what we believe. If the players are sure or not, it doesn'tmatter since Kakara wiĺl believe the answer she gives is correct until proven otherwise. I she says no or maybe that means she doesn't trust her dad, if she says yes she thinks that in this case he won't be mean to Maya, which he has no reason to be. If we are wrong about that then we don't trust him anymore but we didn't lie to Maya.
2)The moment we decided to train Maya, we accepted that one way or another the saiyans would know about her soon. That is my story and I am sticking to it once dad asks us in private. But to do that, we must take as many chances to convince her as we can.
3) While keeping her secret might be useful, she would be a more effective asset with more training. I also want to keep training her and we can't do it without being discovered.
4) We are Scion. We can take our time to consider it and doubt but we can't show it. Better to get used to the idea.
@Andres110 I get you don't have the highest opinion of Berra but you are letting your prejudice show. Day to day interaction show he is nice, he is described as patient and unlikely to act rashly, we know no triggers related to this and he is a beast at communication plus this is in no way Maya's fault so why would he be mean to her? She is already trying to keep things secret so it is not like he has to threaten her and if that were his first option Berra wouldn't be held in such a high steem. You are starting to act as if he were one dimensional.
Reasoning:
1) We are answering what we believe. If the players are sure or not, it doesn'tmatter since Kakara wiĺl believe the answer she gives is correct until proven otherwise. I she says no or maybe that means she doesn't trust her dad, if she says yes she thinks that in this case he won't be mean to Maya, which he has no reason to be. If we are wrong about that then we don't trust him anymore but we didn't lie to Maya.
2)The moment we decided to train Maya, we accepted that one way or another the saiyans would know about her soon. That is my story and I am sticking to it once dad asks us in private. But to do that, we must take as many chances to convince her as we can.
3) While keeping her secret might be useful, she would be a more effective asset with more training. I also want to keep training her and we can't do it without being discovered.
4) We are Scion. We can take our time to consider it and doubt but we can't show it. Better to get used to the idea.
@Andres110 I get you don't have the highest opinion of Berra but you are letting your prejudice show. Day to day interaction show he is nice, he is described as patient and unlikely to act rashly, we know no triggers related to this and he is a beast at communication plus this is in no way Maya's fault so why would he be mean to her? She is already trying to keep things secret so it is not like he has to threaten her and if that were his first option Berra wouldn't be held in such a high steem. You are starting to act as if he were one dimensional.
