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[X] My family has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...

I feel better about this than I do about "say nothing except Trust Me".
 
I feel better about this than I do about "say nothing except Trust Me".

I prefer the response which explains more (but not everything) and gives her a gentle push towards opening up to our Dad again, since she broached the subject again.

Out of curiosity, @PoptartProdigy, do we know how our Dad's Masque Affinity is? How much of his power can he access while Masqued? It wouldn't look good to Maya if we talk up our Dad and then it turns out he can only use <1% of his power (though 1% would still be 3.75 million, absolutely dwarfing Maya still).
 
I prefer the response which explains more (but not everything) and gives her a gentle push towards opening up to our Dad again, since she broached the subject again.

Out of curiosity, @PoptartProdigy, do we know how our Dad's Masque Affinity is? How much of his power can he access while Masqued? It wouldn't look good to Maya if we talk up our Dad and then it turns out he can only use <1% of his power (though 1% would still be 3.75 million, absolutely dwarfing Maya still).
Y'know, I knew I'd forgotten some of his non-combat skills. Berra sits squarely at "Talented" for Masque Affinity, allowing 80% of his full power and taking 10 seconds to transform in or out.
 
If we're going to do a write-in, I'd be far more comfortable with something along the lines of:

[X] "I'm sorry, that's something I just can't teach you if you still don't want me to share you're secret with my father because it could get us both in trouble even if you eventually did decide to come out. Now, if you wanted to meet him beforehand, there are lots of cool things we could show you..."



Why does everything have to be so difficult all the time forever.

You think this is bad? How do you think Mato is going to react when he finds out that his Scion big sister has been spending a whole year secretly training a human (as far as he knows) on an exponential growth curve rapidly headed towards surpassing the legal limit he's still throwing tantrums about?
 
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[X] My family has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...
 
You think this is bad? How do you think Mato is going to react when he finds out that his Scion big sister has been spending a whole year secretly training a human (as far as he knows) on an exponential growth curve rapidly headed towards surpassing the legal limit he's still throwing tantrums about?

In fairness, Mato is likely going to be aware that she's nowhere near the 15 million legal limit (in fact, well below him in PL!). She's also unlikely to eclipse that limit (much) in the short-term future.

Plus, he'll come around when we set them up on a date!
 
[x] My family has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...

You think this is bad? How do you think Mato is going to react when he finds out that his Scion big sister has been spending a whole year secretly training a human (as far as he knows) on an exponential growth curve rapidly headed towards surpassing the legal limit he's still throwing tantrums about?
He will accidentally go Super Saiyan from the sheer frustration. :V
 
Nah, we'd knock him out just before he went SSJ, so we didn't have to execute him.

...

That would irritate him to no end.

...

He'd end up like, constantly knocked out. We'll need an IV drip and some of that Vegetan pudding.
 
In fairness, Mato is likely going to be aware that she's nowhere near the 15 million legal limit (in fact, well below him in PL!). She's also unlikely to eclipse that limit (much) in the short-term future.

Plus, he'll come around when we set them up on a date!

Assuming exponential growth and no cap, which he will if he doesn't think she's a Saiyan, she's set to hit 553 million inside a year from now.

Vegetan or not, she doesn't deserve that.
 
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You think this is bad? How do you think Mato is going to react when he finds out that his Scion big sister has been spending a whole year secretly training a human (as far as he knows) on an exponential growth curve rapidly headed towards surpassing the legal limit he's still throwing tantrums about?
Elated that big sis is in trouble and she proved that she doesn't deserve to be Scion then frustrated when we are not stripped from that title even though that would be a complete overreaction? Pointing out all the time to everyone that we broke the law? Paying attention in case we do so again?
 
Using the BoD system, everything should have a cap of some kind or another.

I find Tien passing fat but to be a bit of a stretch, but maybe that means a combination of kaioken and tribeam, which are both large force multipliers.

We won't really know where she's sitting until gets to diminishing returns, though, in which case we teach her kaioken if we want her to be a viable high end combatant.

Of course, humans also have a disproportionate number of geniuses pop up. Bulmas family and all their crazy shit and Gero producing androids that make a galactic scale emperor look like a bitch being two canon examples in the same genreal generation, Wheelo being a fairly competent non canon example. Slump being a gag addendum.


Wonder if there's any of those kinds of geniuses on this planet?
 
I find Tien passing fat but to be a bit of a stretch, but maybe that means a combination of kaioken and tribeam, which are both large force multipliers.
No, I meant in base. Remember that Fat Buu in his first appearance (which is very specifically what I'm benchmarking Tien at) laid somewhere between SSJ2 and SSJ3 levels of power. Tien only had to beat that, and he had about a century to get that far.
 
I disagree with that being reasonable, but it's hardly something I'm going to argue. Lol.

Easy enough just to accept it as canon for this quest.
 
Different plot twist: the Enemy turns out to really be
The King of Everything, mad that Goku apparently "ignored" him after he died, and slowly taking his petty rage at being snubbed out on everything Goku knew and loved (in between being distracted, because he only cares so much).
 
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Different plot twist: the Enemy turns out to really be
The King of Everything, mad that Goku apparently "ignored" him after he died, and slowly taking his petty rage at being snubbed out on everything Goku knew and loved )in between being distracted, because he only cares so much).
Well then it's simple, we just have to go recruit the other Xeno-chan
 
[x] My family has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...
 
Welcome, @Sigil. You've concluded your archive binge in just enough time for the vote close. Handy timing, that. ;)

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[X] My family has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...
No. of Votes: 14

[X] Reveal some of the truth.
- [X] ...Kinda.
- [X] Dance around without straight out saying that there may be others with powers.
- [X] State that hypothetically if there were, you might also have promised to hide their secrets as well.
- [X] Ask that Maya trust you that at the moment, you can't teach her about power sensing.
- [X] Guilt her into waiting before trying to learn this herself by subtly reminding her that she wouldn't want some stranger to find out her secret out-of-the-blue.
- [X] Hint that if she's desperate to meet others with powers, dad's still an option.
No. of Votes: 4

[X] Confess all. Tear aside the Masquerade, and give Maya whatever she wants to know.
-[X] And then say you'll teach her.
No. of Votes: 1

[x] Refuse to answer.
-[x] Ask her to trust your judgment.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Lie your ass off.
-[X] Tell her that if you know how to sense others, you'll know when you're sensed, so if you teach her and she even accidentally senses your dad, she'll be discovered.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Refuse to answer.
-[X] Ask her to trust your judgement.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Go super saiyajin.
-[x] Fake a seisure.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] My dad has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...
No. of Votes: 1

[X] "I'm sorry, that's something I just can't teach you if you still don't want me to share you're secret with my father because it could get us both in trouble even if you eventually did decide to come out. Now, if you wanted to meet him beforehand, there are lots of cool things we could show you..."
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 25

[X] My family has more secrets than just Ki use Maya, not all of which are mine to tell. If I teach you sensing then you might be able to uncover them. If you let me tell dad about this, he could make the decision, but...

Writing the update now, folks! Incoming!
 
Oh here's a possible idea of why she's so strong!
Maybe she's someone reincarnation, ala Uub.

Uub managed to be almost as strong as Buu as a child cause he was his reincarnation, so maybe it's the same here.
 
Wrong! The real enemy is
Maya from an alternate dimensión that time traveled to the past to kill the saiyans after those of Earth, who without the limitations to their growing numbers or the amount of training they could have, went on a galactic conquest! When faced with an army of super saiyan gods Maya Webley, last champion of the universe, went to the past to destroy them when they were at their weakest and after they ended most galactic threats. Uub learned the truth from Shen Long and Gohan told Mato with telepathy so he led the remants of his family to Garenhuld in order to butterfly away her birth or, if that failed, make her be from the same planet as the saiyans so as to not gain her as an enemy. He made up a story about the enemy looking for them because he didn't want his descendants to end as galactic overlords like in the enemy's original timeline and he didn't feel like destroying Garenhuld for the sins of someone who was not even born yet!
 
Wrong! The real enemy is
Maya from an alternate dimensión that time traveled to the past to kill the saiyans after those of Earth, who without the limitations to their growing numbers or the amount of training they could have, went on a galactic conquest! When faced with an army of super saiyan gods Maya Webley, last champion of the universe, went to the past to destroy them when they were at their weakest and after they ended most galactic threats. Uub learned the truth from Shen Long and Gohan told Mato with telepathy so he led the remants of his family to Garenhuld in order to butterfly away her birth or, if that failed, make her be from the same planet as the saiyans so as to not gain her as an enemy. He made up a story about the enemy looking for them because he didn't want his descendants to end as galactic overlords like in the enemy's original timeline and he didn't feel like destroying Garenhuld for the sins of someone who was not even born yet!
Ooh, that's good.

Hideously crack, but good.
 
Wrong! The real enemy is
Maya from an alternate dimensión that time traveled to the past to kill the saiyans after those of Earth, who without the limitations to their growing numbers or the amount of training they could have, went on a galactic conquest! When faced with an army of super saiyan gods Maya Webley, last champion of the universe, went to the past to destroy them when they were at their weakest and after they ended most galactic threats. Uub learned the truth from Shen Long and Gohan told Mato with telepathy so he led the remants of his family to Garenhuld in order to butterfly away her birth or, if that failed, make her be from the same planet as the saiyans so as to not gain her as an enemy. He made up a story about the enemy looking for them because he didn't want his descendants to end as galactic overlords like in the enemy's original timeline and he didn't feel like destroying Garenhuld for the sins of someone who was not even born yet!
...damn it, I want that to be what happened now, at least a little bit.
 
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