Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Hell is the cosmos's ultimate prison. Literally ultimate; any given vile criminal starts out as a vile criminal in any of a zillion other prisons, then they go to Hell.
Chibi Dazarel is a chibi. Chibis do not last long in prison.
It would be cruel beyond measure to send Chibi Dazarel to Hell.
Not that he doesn't deserve it, given how many people in the antechamber of the afterlife recognized him. But Kakara just doesn't do that shit. For some reason.
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- Location
- United States
I'm up for not doing a hellrun, thank you.
Maybe we should try... Old Family next?
Don't know enough about the setting, really. Might as well roll a die.
Maybe we should try... Old Family next?
Don't know enough about the setting, really. Might as well roll a die.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
And now he's chibi Dazarel with 1/20th of the power of his traditional chibi state.
At this point I think he's got like...a few fractions of 1 PL or something.
- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] Old friends.
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] Old Family
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] Old Enemies
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] New Family
-[] Old friends.
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] Old Family
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] Old Enemies
[] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[] New Family
I'm not sure what would change for him, though l, considering where he would be heading back to. Now, that's honestly an argument that we might not want to chuck him down to hell even if we could, but...
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Although not for the reason you assumed...I think.
I dunno, we can come back and do it properly when we're good enough at seeing to plot the whole thing out in advance and avoid any unpleasantness.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Oh, whoops. Edited the, "Don't go to Hell," option. The old text made no sense.
- Location
- Italy
i wonder who/what we'd meet in hell.
First guess: Cell and Oni Goku.
@PoptartProdigy
Can we ask Yemma why we can't talk to those in heaven through telepathy? Is that dangerous too?
First guess: Cell and Oni Goku.
@PoptartProdigy
Can we ask Yemma why we can't talk to those in heaven through telepathy? Is that dangerous too?
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
I'm not up for a Hellrun. Not as a shade, and probably not even if we were at full strength.
I'm glad we came here though!
...No, wait! We're only being turned away because we're intending to stay! @PoptartProdigy if we promise to leave within a week, can we just visit to prepare for our journey across the galaxy and ask for advice?
I'm glad we came here though!
...No, wait! We're only being turned away because we're intending to stay! @PoptartProdigy if we promise to leave within a week, can we just visit to prepare for our journey across the galaxy and ask for advice?
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
I bet leaving telepathy open runs a risk of letting the Enemy in, somehow
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Alternatively, is there a meeting room where we can talk to people in the afterlife at?
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Welp!
Didn't see the immigration ban coming.
On the other hand, Poptart's warning makes me feel somewhat vindicated about taking a strong stance against "go to Hell." The problem, and I should have thought clearly enough to express it thusly earlier, isn't so much about any ONE inmate of Hell (e.g. Frieza). The problem is that Hell contains ALL the rough characters, every single one of them, and sooner or later at least one of them would gank us or put us in a position we'd rather not occupy.
...
Also, ahem. Point of order.
There are people in that line who recognize Dazarel. That is to say, they're dead, and they died the last time Dazarel destroyed a planet. I don't know how busy Dazarel's been, but that has to have been, like, years.
The afterlife has a very long waiting list. We should remember this if we die, because it means we may be stuck in line for a very long time and miss a lot of important events even if we find some other way to accomplish interesting things.
Didn't see the immigration ban coming.
On the other hand, Poptart's warning makes me feel somewhat vindicated about taking a strong stance against "go to Hell." The problem, and I should have thought clearly enough to express it thusly earlier, isn't so much about any ONE inmate of Hell (e.g. Frieza). The problem is that Hell contains ALL the rough characters, every single one of them, and sooner or later at least one of them would gank us or put us in a position we'd rather not occupy.
...
Also, ahem. Point of order.
There are people in that line who recognize Dazarel. That is to say, they're dead, and they died the last time Dazarel destroyed a planet. I don't know how busy Dazarel's been, but that has to have been, like, years.
The afterlife has a very long waiting list. We should remember this if we die, because it means we may be stuck in line for a very long time and miss a lot of important events even if we find some other way to accomplish interesting things.
You know, it's quite possible the answer will be "because you're not good enough at telepathy." Generally whenever there was a telepathy conversation involving the afterlife, King Kai was the one initiating it, and King Kai is a pretty good candidate for what Legendary Telepathy looks like in Poptart's setting- effectively unlimited ability to contact anyone, anywhere in the cosmos, without any risk of people right next to the target having an inkling that anything was said.
- Location
- Italy
@PoptartProdigy what if it was just for an hour? or ten minutes?
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
... huh. Maybe later, but let's not make a beeline for hell, eh?
All told, I'mma probably just repeat my vote from last time...
I... think the attestations of rakayo or whatever they were were Simon_Jester's first, and then their existence was accepted as canon, but take that with a truckload of salt; I'm currently running on far less sleep than I prefer. Also what may be, but definitly was recently, a fever.
Are. Are we seriously still underestimating Dandeer? After aaaaallllll the bitching?
Everything else about what she may or may not be able to do aside, she's a mind mage. Don't mess with the minds of mind magi.
It's Hell. It is literally a custom-designed torment of the greatest degree.
So. Yeah. Of course it would be cruel.
All told, I'mma probably just repeat my vote from last time...
I... think the attestations of rakayo or whatever they were were Simon_Jester's first, and then their existence was accepted as canon, but take that with a truckload of salt; I'm currently running on far less sleep than I prefer. Also what may be, but definitly was recently, a fever.
Are. Are we seriously still underestimating Dandeer? After aaaaallllll the bitching?
Everything else about what she may or may not be able to do aside, she's a mind mage. Don't mess with the minds of mind magi.
... I had a thing typed up about how, due to power differences in DB, hell would need multiple weight class areas, but there's a more relevant point:
It's Hell. It is literally a custom-designed torment of the greatest degree.
So. Yeah. Of course it would be cruel.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Hm? None of the options before were "Go to Hell."
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
"Those above" took us to heaven, so presumably "those below"...
- Location
- Italy
not even he is actually that good. Goku during his battle with Frieza somehow intercepted his conversation with Kami.
If he IS that good, that leaves us asking why can't THEY contact us with telepathy
We assumed "Those Below" meant Hell.
EDIT:
- Location
- United Kingdom
[ ] Accept, thank Yemma for his time, and leave. You'll return if you fulfill one of the first two conditions -- or alternatively, if you later feel like taking a crack at Hell. After leaving, jump to:
-[ ] Old friends.
-[ ] Old family.
Friends or family seem the best of the bunch here, especially since we can always come back later to give Hell a go.
-[ ] Old friends.
-[ ] Old family.
Friends or family seem the best of the bunch here, especially since we can always come back later to give Hell a go.
This line really hit me. A lot of people I've seen in thread have referred to this new arc as variations on 'Kakara's adventures in space', and I know I thought of it like that as well. But for Kakara herself it's not like that. We've been seeing it as a bad thing because we've been forced to leave Garenhuld and all our family, but for Kakara it's also an ever-increasing risk of actually meeting the Enemy, and in hindsight I really should have figured it'd play a large part of her views on her forced departure.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
This seems like an excellent use of the [ASK] task.
You can have a brief visit, sure, but I'll again emphasize the, "frankly unsustainable amount of effort," and, "the visit is short because otherwise the metaphysical barrier making it untenable for the Enemy to enter the afterlife and wreak havoc kicks you out," parts of things. It really will be an extremely brief visit -- for safety's sake, if nothing else.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Those Above is Heaven, and gone.
Those Below is also gone. What do we currently have access to that paralells heaven such that we don't need the sight? Hell.
- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
He's busy, and also got all his training from King Kai; not that he couldn't teach us anything, but most of the stuff he knows that would be helpful to us are probably already part of the exile knowledge base.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
That's fair. I kind of want to visit... but at the same time, if we don't have anything specific to ask/work on then it might actually be a bit of a dick move if it's going to cause Gohan a lot of trouble.
On the other hand, Kakara is a 13-year-old who just had to run away from everything she's ever known and loved because an evil witch mind controlled people she cares about into fighting her, lest she be subject to the same fate. Stress rolls are a thing in this quest - maybe we ought to take the visit for the sake of Kakara's mental health?