- Location
- USA
GT isn't canon here. Bits and pieces are
Dragon Ball: After the End
GT isn't canon here. Bits and pieces are
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
SSJ4 is not confirmed to exist. I suspect that if we put the Research actions in we'll find a new base form combining the PLs of Oozaru and regular Saiyan that may or may not look like that, but it won't be called SSJ4 because we won't be skipping SSJ2/3 to get it - indeed, it'll be something compatible with the SSJ boosts.
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
A learning experience!
"And here we have one of our kindergartens!"
"Exactly as repulsive as everything else you have shown me"
Dazarel eyed the grouping in front of him with disdain from his perch atop Kakara's shoulders.
"When I am free I shall take enormous pleasure in devouring you all whole as I did the people of Skend."
This seemed to provoke a response from the hatchlings before him. One of them spoke up in an irritating high-pitched warble.
"Whass Skend Mister Dwagon?"
"One of the many worlds whose people I defeated and killed on my way here."
Another of the hatchlings who had been occupied investigating a nostril chirped up as well.
"How'd you beat them?"
"I am a Dragon. They could not hope to defend against my immortal majesty, and all their attempts were futile."
"That's a stupid story. You're bad at stories. Wasn't any fighting or cool techniques or nothing."
Dazarel bristled, both at the accusation and the general ignominy of the entire situation.
"You should fear me youngling. Once I defeated their mightiest warriors I swallowed each of them in a single gulp, whilst they were still alive."
This did not provoke the terror he expected. Another of the younglings who looked particularly unimpressed flattened down her skirt and then posed with hands on her hips before speaking.
"If I was an evil dragon I wouldn't eat people whole. I'd start with their feet and work upwards so theys could see me eating them. That's what I'd do if I was an evil dragon. Cos' I'd do it properly. An' I'd have cool techniques and everything. And I wouldn't wipe the worlds out, I'd conquer them and make all the people bring me gold to sleep on."
This seemed to meet with general agreement from the other hatchlings. Dazarel stared. He did not know how to respond to this.
((On the basis that the evil of a genocidal world-ending dragon cannot possibly hope to match the collective malice of a group of 5-7 year olds. He never stood a chance.))
Small children are neutral evil, so that doesn't surprise me at all.
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Yeah, Kid's are fucked up sometimes.
It's one of the reasonss I don't get kids tv in america never saying the word Die. I mean, the violence of death sure, but kids know that things die. That's why you get them goldfish.
It's one of the reasonss I don't get kids tv in america never saying the word Die. I mean, the violence of death sure, but kids know that things die. That's why you get them goldfish.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
So, the fight's over and Dazarel is being wrapped up soon. How do you think celebrations will go? Victory feast?
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
Btw, anyone wants to bug Gohan to re-learn the Fusion Dance? I want to see what happens if we try and fuse the Oozaru and normal parts of someone's power. It's seems like a logical power boost. Though it might be a better idea to try with a trustworthy non-super saiyin first in case we get strong enough to shatter the wards.
EDIT: Hell, we could get one of our Ancestors to try it for us. Then there wouldn't be any Masquerade problems.
EDIT: Hell, we could get one of our Ancestors to try it for us. Then there wouldn't be any Masquerade problems.
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TheRuisu
I think that I'm the Dragon
- Location
- Best Location, of course. Keijoverse
Current Tally, btw :
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
We recreated the lost technique of the GOD GOKU, and single-handedly stomped a DRAGON and made him our headpal/shoulderpal.
They'll roast up Dandeer and serve her as a pot roast if we ask. In other words, yes. Feast. There will be pudding. Clan Pudding will be rich.
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
Puddin' and Dumplin's
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
No, you can modulate your base. You can't modulate period as a base SSJ, and the Exiles are unwilling to gamble all on that being different for SSJ2.
Happy 1000 pages, everybody!
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
I... think I misunderstood something. Fusion dance requires similar heights. How do you expect to fuse Oozaru and normal person? I don't think the oozaru could get his fingers close enough to each other to tap those of their dancing partner. Just... how? I could see it working with Potara but those are sacred items that indicate one's station as kaioshin.
- Location
- United Kingdom
That makes me wonder what would happen if Kakara and Jaffur did the fusion dance. Would there be a flip of a coin to see if they end up male or female? It'd be funny if the male acted more like Kakara and the female more like Jaffur.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Ask again in the OOC. That's a pretty exclusively there topic.
- Location
- Scotland
To also be fair the first person to unlock a version of strengthened Super Saiyan 2 is Vegeta through his unyielding rage and was stronger than SS3 Goku and only in the frist appearance was trunks as strong as SS3 after training with Vegeta he could at least fight somewhat against SSR and Vegeta used it to overwhelm SS Goku black who in base was equal to SS3 Goku so yeah SSS2 is broken
though I do agree that UI should be the best power up if it is a thing
I have to say the full release of UI looked good in that episode even if it is not that creative
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
Apparently in one of the interviews with Toriyama he mentioned that he believed fusion was possible no matter the conditions. Though it's progressively harder. I've looked up a translation and the way it's framed is incredibly ambiguous, though it confirms that race doesn't matter as much. The general interpretation seems to be that the height isn't strictly necessary but it's much more difficult with a different height.
Last time it came up, Poptart went with a 'try it and see' answer. I think it would probably end up being an elite or legendary talent, rather then something we we can do as a standard part of the technique.
Putting the Oozaru thing aside, I feel like it should be the next special technique we should pursue. It builds upon our All is One theme, and should synergise to some extent with Multiform.
It's also all about synchronizing with someone else, which is something we're good at. We always have a strong fusion candidate we can trust in the form of Maya.
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- Location
- Actually pretty lost
While I'd like to get it at some point I'd prefer to go for Ki Concentration, the mixing-base-forms project, Ki Stealth or the instant USSJ trick, not to mention actually getting Perfect Multiform.
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
Fusion doesn't personally grab me atm.
Still got a few essential skills to push up.
Multiform (Talented) -> Multiform (Exceptional)
- Probs more actions + progress towards perfect multiform which is redonkulus.
Ki Sense (Exceptional) -> Ki Sense (Elite)
- Ki Sense is basically Kakara's signature ability, it's the only skill we can currently break the conventional mastery cap on atm, and I'd dearly like to pick up Machine Sense because no-one has done that ever.
Instant Transmission (Talented) -> Instant Transmission (Exceptional)
- A staple of Kakara's and one I'd like to reach the conventional cap on.
Deceit (Competent) -> Deceit (Talented)
- Lowest of Kakara's Social skills, and given her heavy involvement in politics a heavy focus in Social is not a bad thing. Communication is (conventional) capped, and Intrigue is at Talented.
Masque Affinity (Human) [Talented] -> Masque Affinity (Human) [Exceptional]
- Being able to use 100% of (base) power level would make protecting the planet without endangering the Masquerade a lot lot easier.
Still got a few essential skills to push up.
Multiform (Talented) -> Multiform (Exceptional)
- Probs more actions + progress towards perfect multiform which is redonkulus.
Ki Sense (Exceptional) -> Ki Sense (Elite)
- Ki Sense is basically Kakara's signature ability, it's the only skill we can currently break the conventional mastery cap on atm, and I'd dearly like to pick up Machine Sense because no-one has done that ever.
Instant Transmission (Talented) -> Instant Transmission (Exceptional)
- A staple of Kakara's and one I'd like to reach the conventional cap on.
Deceit (Competent) -> Deceit (Talented)
- Lowest of Kakara's Social skills, and given her heavy involvement in politics a heavy focus in Social is not a bad thing. Communication is (conventional) capped, and Intrigue is at Talented.
Masque Affinity (Human) [Talented] -> Masque Affinity (Human) [Exceptional]
- Being able to use 100% of (base) power level would make protecting the planet without endangering the Masquerade a lot lot easier.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
As for me, the list of things I would like...
Perfect Multiform.
Ki concentration at exceptional so that Jaffur can't casually curpstomp us in combat.
IT at exceptional since we use it a lot.
Keep our seer training, particularly present sight so that we can learn ki blocking and how to see if someone is lying.
Command training at exceptional since we are the only exile who can train it that high.
Ki sensing at Elite since we can actually train it that high.
Tien Style Exceptional.
Mind Delve exceptional to protect our mind and increase info gathering abilities (in case we face something like the terrorist attacks or other conspiracies)
Super Taioken.
Genki dama (exceptional)
Team fighting (exceptional)
Communication (Elite)
Deceit (talented)
The way I see it, both Tien and Demon style are about controling range and fighting the enemy at the distance they are not confortable with, the difference is that Tien does it by engaging and disengaging and Demon by battlefield control. Which means Tien is a good fit for us. We need to be able to disengage and buy time if we need to do a genkidama. Kikoho not only does a lot of damage but it pushes the opponent away, taioken and super taioken blind the opponent and lets us change the range or hide, with elite ki sense helping us if we use the later. Ki blocking should work well with 4 witches. Perfect Multiform not only does it help us if the opponent is not good at fighting multiple opponents but it lets us fool the enemy into thinking we are still fighting him while we charge the big attack. IT also helps in closing in or making distance. Command, mind delve and communication skills so we can minimize casualties and minimize fighting.
Basically, take Tien Style and amp it up to 11. Neither overdrive or the instant USS are things I am particularly enthused about. By this point, the path is more or less clear as for our style, we just have to put the time to shore it up.
Perfect Multiform.
Ki concentration at exceptional so that Jaffur can't casually curpstomp us in combat.
IT at exceptional since we use it a lot.
Keep our seer training, particularly present sight so that we can learn ki blocking and how to see if someone is lying.
Command training at exceptional since we are the only exile who can train it that high.
Ki sensing at Elite since we can actually train it that high.
Tien Style Exceptional.
Mind Delve exceptional to protect our mind and increase info gathering abilities (in case we face something like the terrorist attacks or other conspiracies)
Super Taioken.
Genki dama (exceptional)
Team fighting (exceptional)
Communication (Elite)
Deceit (talented)
The way I see it, both Tien and Demon style are about controling range and fighting the enemy at the distance they are not confortable with, the difference is that Tien does it by engaging and disengaging and Demon by battlefield control. Which means Tien is a good fit for us. We need to be able to disengage and buy time if we need to do a genkidama. Kikoho not only does a lot of damage but it pushes the opponent away, taioken and super taioken blind the opponent and lets us change the range or hide, with elite ki sense helping us if we use the later. Ki blocking should work well with 4 witches. Perfect Multiform not only does it help us if the opponent is not good at fighting multiple opponents but it lets us fool the enemy into thinking we are still fighting him while we charge the big attack. IT also helps in closing in or making distance. Command, mind delve and communication skills so we can minimize casualties and minimize fighting.
Basically, take Tien Style and amp it up to 11. Neither overdrive or the instant USS are things I am particularly enthused about. By this point, the path is more or less clear as for our style, we just have to put the time to shore it up.
- Location
- United Kingdom
Once we've got Team FIghting to Exceptional I want to work on Gohan style for a bit, but that's admittedly more personal preference than for any mechanical benefit (Jiichan/Endivan style etc).
Although there is a benefit to having more than one style, just so we don't end up too predictable/we can change it up in the middle of a fight if we need to.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
Already answered. Fusion just recombines our multiforms.
I wonder what would happen if King Piccolo and Kami fused, would they just recombine back into the original Nameless Namekian?