Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Just because I love seeing Apeiron suffer I hope that whenever "Imposing Declaration of Title" activates that it also ends up chaining with "Calling Card" causing it to keep turning on even though Joe initially had it toggled off. The resulting effect being a super amazing/terrifying combo of the two powers together. Maybe even throw "Rockin' Music" into the mix just to make it even cooler/crazier.
 
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Wonder if Tattletale will take the logical and sensible option of informing Apieron of the real danger of the Travellers and let him handle it without going near Echidna.
 
He has Unnatural Skill Music plus that singing perk from Macross. He could literally start a band and have people sing along about how great he is/his actions by setting his career to a rock opera and rake in the faith! It would be like Sabaton or Blind Guardians doing Nightfall in Middle Earth.

Oh dear, just how would the local PRT react to that development? I present to you the other primary reasons I read this fic, aside from Tattltale suffering from repeated BSoD and Joe becoming best boi Tinker: Director Piggot making bad decisions 😁

PRT Officer: "Ma'am, we've received confirmation that Apeiron has started a band with his team and will be performing concerts that can be viewed across the world."
Piggot: "NUKE HIM IMMEDIATELY!!!!"
 
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EDIT: Actually, question, does Tybalt perk works only on people who have met/seen him, or does it go full info-hazard and people who read or are given a description still thknk nothing of him being a cat besides that he is a cat?

Full info hazard, it's planetwide. This is a S tier stranger power that nobody will even realize is a thing.

Not sure about that... He has a non-flashy power and was stupid enough to not only be discovered but to stay on public radar.
That got him attacked multiple times.

Give the man some credits: he might be in the public eye, but he never pissed the heroes enough that the Triumvirate dropped on his front door. Yes, part of that is because his girls are effectively hostages, but even with hostages, going too far would get him killed. That he is still alive after so long mean he knows when a girl is just too hot for him.

Wonder if Tattletale will take the logical and sensible option of informing Apieron of the real danger of the Travellers and let him handle it without going near Echidna.

She might if the Travelers make the offer to Apeiron. She's terrified of evil Apeclones.
 
Joe's not gonna let the E88 remain for long.
A bunch of people are making this point, so only quoting once and not tagging anyone, but... is this really true? Has Joe expressed any interest in going after E88?

He was only really getting involved initially in order to stop Bakuda, which is still ongoing. I was always under the impression that he really didn't care about the rest of the ABB other than her (until March showed up, at least.) And since then he hasn't really expressed any interest in normal 'hero-ing', but part of that is the politics surrounding Apeiron (i.e. the PRT treating him as radioactive.)

I've been under the impression, that at least in the short term, he's still going to focus mostly on disabling Bakuda as a threat, and now, dealing with whatever shit Lisa has been hiding from him, and keeping Taylor alive. I don't think he's expressed any interest in really fighting E88, even if he doesn't like them.

I mean, that'll probably change the first time he hears/catches them doing something, but still...
 
A bunch of people are making this point, so only quoting once and not tagging anyone, but... is this really true? Has Joe expressed any interest in going after E88?
Before this Joe never made any long term plans, E88 included, probably as a way to avoid certain precog, but he clearly doesn't like empire. And Joe probably has bigger concerns and priorities by this point.

P.S. There is still a chance that Undersiders will end up claiming former ABB territory or something like that (and everybody will be sure that it was Apeiron's plan all this time, to replace mayor villain with tamer one). Such action will tie Empire for some time.

Give the man some credits: he might be in the public eye, but he never pissed the heroes enough that the Triumvirate dropped on his front door.
He is not on American soil and the only reason kill order wasn't signed was because of those same hostages.
However he might be avoiding America because of Triumvirate.
 
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Joe, I think, more than anything else at this point wants to sleep and get his head on straight. Taking down the E88 would be nice. Doing it AFTER he's had a few days of very important mental health time is even better. What Joe doesn't want is for the E88 to get taken down RIGHT NOW, right after the massive chaos of the ABB going down. That's something he couldn't turn away from and would feel like he had to involve himself in. Right now he just doesn't have it in him to do that. He's tapped out mentally and physically.

"Joe snaps and lashes out at something or someone" has a much greater damage potential than "E88 continues to exist for a bit longer".
 
His is not on American soil and the only reason kill order wasn't signed was because of those same hostages.
However he might be avoiding America because of Triumvirate.

*shrug* I used the Triumvirate because it's the most well known example, but the Guild work too. For example, what do you think would happen if Heartbreaker tried to mind control Narwhal ?

Joe, I think, more than anything else at this point wants to sleep and get his head on straight. Taking down the E88 would be nice. Doing it AFTER he's had a few days of very important mental health time is even better.

Joe... just had two days of nap after his surgery. Or, well, as close as "nap" as he can allow himself (e.g. super robot basketball). There are reasons to not pile on the E88 right now, but his mental health is not one of them.
 
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His is not on American soil and the only reason kill order wasn't signed was because of those same hostages.
However he might be avoiding America because of Triumvirate.
Two things. I think part of the reason they ended up leaving Montreal to him was less about hostages and not wanting to risk any more capes being captured by him. I was under the impression that they had tried before and it had failed, giving him new soldiers/devotees/lovers, etc.

And it's less avoiding America, but rather that Heartbreaker really didn't have a lot of motivation. The Worm fandom talks about him a lot, due to Alec, but I think there's a quote in the story where Alec mentions him as being unambitious. And outside of the Northeast, a lot of people in the US didn't really know about/care about him.

It's possible I'm remembering both things wrong. It's been years since I read the original text at this point.
 
Apeiron -- The Final Boss of... well, thanks to Sechen Ranges
I'm suddenly remembering the horrible theme song from a certain show my little brother watched.
"Sechen Power Rangers!"
Another missed opportunity for a team name. /sarcasm
One day Accord will reach out and actually get a custom piece made to help him stay in a good headspace.

It will be a simple phrase written in nice big friendly gold letters.

"Do not panic."
"Perfect is the enemy of good."
-Kat: Is a cat, the only being above dragons.
The ultimate predator.
 
*shrug* I used the Triumvirate because it's the most well known example, but the Guild work too. For example, what do you think would happen if Heartbreaker tried to mind control Narwhal ?



Joe... just had two days of nap after his surgery. Or, well, as close as "nap" as he can allow himself (e.g. super robot basketball). There are reasons to not pile on the E88 right now, but his mental health is not one of them.
2 days is not enough to recover from almost dying. He needs TIME. A couple of weeks is an absurdly short period to even begin to recover from the trauma he went through. Supertinker with PTSD isn't an outcome ANYONE wants.
 
Two things. I think part of the reason they ended up leaving Montreal to him was less about hostages and not wanting to risk any more capes being captured by him. I was under the impression that they had tried before and it had failed, giving him new soldiers/devotees/lovers, etc.

And it's less avoiding America, but rather that Heartbreaker really didn't have a lot of motivation. The Worm fandom talks about him a lot, due to Alec, but I think there's a quote in the story where Alec mentions him as being unambitious. And outside of the Northeast, a lot of people in the US didn't really know about/care about him.

It's possible I'm remembering both things wrong. It's been years since I read the original text at this point.

Nah, Alec and his sister do talk about how they thought their dad had some great scheme for control over the country or something equally grand, but as time passed they realized he just wanted tp get his dick wet.
 
He arched a hand and pressed his fingertips into the table as he leaned forward. A slight reaction from the edges of her personal forcefield and the surface cast flickering sparks that lit his face dramatically.

his

He could already recognize the hungry looking in the other attendees.

look

"Head and honcho of the Archer' Bridge Merchants, on the rise and not stopping!

Archer's
 
Heartbreaker tried to mind control Narwhal ?
Narwhal shouldn't be immune, so Heartbreaker gets a powerful thrall. Government might try to retaliate again, but it will just be a bloodbath.

By this point no amount of retaliation short of nuking is enough to get past Heartbreaker's meat shield and capes, and anybody who gets too close gets controlled, with triumvirate not being an exception. The stupidity of Heartbreaker's action is in that he is provoking conflict, earlier or later Heartbreaker will run into an immune or unstable cape or will end up in an unpredictable lethal incident (kind of what happened with Scrub's power and Taylor's bug-clone).
 
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2 days is not enough to recover from almost dying. He needs TIME. A couple of weeks is an absurdly short period to even begin to recover from the trauma he went through. Supertinker with PTSD isn't an outcome ANYONE wants.

Except the way his powers work mean that he cannot get a long period of time without some brain changing perks. Heck, he cannot get a short period of time without that kind of perks. He got, like, 4-8 perks per day for about 2 weeks.

Time to heal is the only thing Joe will never get.

with triumvirate not being an exception

Legend is too long range for Heartbreaker, Alexandria is immune to Master, and Ediolon can be both.
 
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The reference has been updated to match the latest stats. Also I trimmed the perk text for the duplicate Unnatural skills and Minor blessings. It was becoming unmanageable.
Rolls Analysis:
Size (300): With 400 points Joe would have had a 1/3 chance to roll Kerbals. As is nothing was available.
Time (400): Time is 600CP or bust
Knowledge (500-400): As usual the largest constellation. 7/18 clusters were available. We could have nearly finished off Star Trek Skils, or gotten basic TechPriest training from Warhammer 40k among others. As is Joe unlocks Cyborg Hindu God Body in the capstone constellation and gains access to Mantra technology.
Magic (200): With 300 points Joe would have had another shot at Synchronicity Event instead there's no options.
Quality (300-300): Rolling Percy Jackson again had a 1/6 chance. There was also a 1/6 chance of Synchronicity Event (Yes it's in three whole constellations)
Time (100): Same as the first appearance of Time in this chapter but even further away from being rolled.

Note: Lord appears to have massaged the rolls a little. I believe Uppercrust's interlude was counted from a points perspective to result in this number of rolls.
You forgot a roll last chapter.
Roll 412 (100): Vehicles → Miss → (100)
Roll 413 (200): Magic → Miss → (200)
Roll 414 (300): ??? → Miss → (300)
Roll 415 (400): Knowledge → Miss → (400)
Roll 415 (500): Magic → Miss → (500)
Roll 415 (600): Size → Parahuman - Tinker - Miniaturization and Efficiency (Worm) (600-400) + Outside Context Problem (Worm) (Free) + Tinker-Tech Cache (Worm) (Free) → (200)
Roll 416 (300): Time → Miss → (300)
The chapter should start with 400 Points for the first roll and end with 200 Points going into next chapter.
 
Except the way his powers work mean that he cannot get a long period of time without some brain changing perks. Heck, he cannot get a short period of time without that kind of perks. He got, like, 4-8 perks per day for about 2 weeks.

Time to heal is the only thing Joe will never get.



Legend is too long range for Heartbreaker, Alexandria is immune to Master, and Ediolon can be both.
Not unless he doesn't actually do anything plot important. Joe lays on a white sand beach in the Mediterranean and sips drinks with umbrellas in them for three weeks and he gets no triggers. It's only when stuff that matters happens that he grows.
 
The chapter should start with 400 Points for the first roll and end with 200 Points going into next chapter
Ah... yeah I fixed the rolls analysis last week but I forgot to update the sheet. I updated this week's analysis.... I'll try to remember to update the sheet too this time.

As an amusing note we have approximately an 18% chance of getting Synchronicity event next chapter. It is among the most likely perks to obtain.
 
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Not unless he doesn't actually do anything plot important. Joe lays on a white sand beach in the Mediterranean and sips drinks with umbrellas in them for three weeks and he gets no triggers. It's only when stuff that matters happens that he grows.

That is something Joe doesn't know. He doesn't know he's in a story. The guy is already in deep denial about doing magic, and trying to find some multiverse justification to his powers, so "I'm in a story" goes way above his head. He doesn't know he gain points based on the number of words describing his scenes. He doesn't know a temporal ellipsis would provide not points.

All he know is "I've been gaining powers at a frantic rate for the last 2 weeks", "powerful powers are getting more common over time", and at best "I gain powers faster when in direct combat" (through I don't think he realized the last one yet).

From his point of view, time is the only thing he doesn't have.
 
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All he know is "I've been gaining powers at a frantic rate for the last 2 weeks", "powerful powers are getting more common over time", and at best "I gain powers faster when in direct combat" (through I don't think he realized the last one yet).
He has almost certainly figured out by now that he doesn't gain powers nearly as frequently while he's asleep, although he gained powers while totally incapacitated post-Lung.
 
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Legend is too long range for Heartbreaker
But Legend needs a target, and thralls will make sure to provide too many targets. And while Legend searches for Heartbreaker is a time capes on Heartbreaker's side can figure out something to pull Legend into Heartbreaker's range.
Alexandria is immune to Master
Immune to specific powers (in interlude 15 Imp might have slipped from Alexandria's mind, Alec also was able to affect Alexandria and he is heartbreaker's kid), and 'offloaded mind' might not be a known fact, nobody is going to try proving that immunity theory against Heartbreaker.
Ediolon can be both.
Same argument as with Alexandria. Nobody is going to risk that.

Trimvirate are heavy hitters, not a scalpel, and Heartbreaker needs scalpel.
 
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But Legend needs a target, and thralls will make sure to provide too many targets. And while Legend searches for Heartbreaker is a time capes on Heartbreaker's side can figure out something to pull Legend into Heartbreaker's range.

Immune to specific powers (in interlude 15 Imp might have slipped from Alexandria's mind, Alec also was able to affect Alexandria and he is heartbreaker's kid), and 'offloaded mind' might not be a known fact, nobody is going to try proving that immunity theory against Heartbreaker.

Same argument as with Alexandria. Nobody is going to risk that.

Trimvirate are heavy hitters, not a scalpel, and Heartbreaker needs scalpel.
That's not even getting the sheer number of Masters and Strangers Heartbreaker has access to. Remember, the main point of his slave harem (aside from being sex slaves) is to provide him with a large number of children to act as Nth Generation Triggers with his power as the first generation. He has dozens of different variations of human Masters to influence his attackers by many methods and vectors as well as Strangers to sneak in and sabotage/assassinate his enemies. There is a big reason people don't attack him and it's because those that do tend to either die or become his slaves. Oh yeah, even if you get past all the Master and Stranger powers you also get to deal with any Parahumans he's enslaved who will attack you, and if that fails he can still have his dozens upon dozens of human shields/hostages kill themselves at any time. It's basically a no-win situation, so any serious effort to take him out either needs to be completely full-proof or consist of carpet bombing him and his hostages, effectively writing them off as collateral damage. Aisha was a completely unique counter to him since even general area of effect Masters couldn't detect or affect her (she was in close proximity to Gold Morning Khepri and didn't fall under her control until after she dropped her power), so was able to kill him and help his kids since they couldn't lash out at her due to forgetting her the moment they tried, letting her consistently talk them down until they accepted help.
 
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