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Is the Forge going to run out of perks? Like, in another million words or whatever? Or will new constellations be added from time to time?
Is the Forge going to run out of perks? Like, in another million words or whatever? Or will new constellations be added from time to time?
And nobody flinched from "the Enigmatic Artificer" afterthought that Apeiron had globally implanted (read: Mastered them to think)?
Of course! Of course he gets this in the chapter he has to introduce his team!Imposing Declaration of Title (Asura's Wrath) Free:
Whenever you do something dramatic or just something really badass, perception of you changes for a splitsecond. Observers see the title or highconcept description of your current state or action as awesome block characters superimposed on their vision. This applies to named attacks/combat maneuvers, legendary weapons, companions and so on.
I don't think Victor was stealing skills. His power just doesn't haven't an off switch, so even when he isn't skill stealing his mind tentacles are already waiting in your brain.Kaiser: Hurr Durr let's get Victor to steal some skillz
Apeiron,Uppercrust,Tattletale: Called out
Kaisar: *surprised pikachu face*
Yeah, exactly. Not even a flanderized dumbass Kaiser would order Victor to go full blast on every cape in the room, including his team mates. It's gotta just be automatic and largely inactive when unfocused.I wonder if the Empire even knew how Victor's powers worked. It's not exactly something that's easy to figure out.
Actually, yeah. Joe could protect his brain pretty easy at this point. He oughta get on that. It's not like it's being purposefully ignored so certain threats can stay threats; Victor (and most other parahumans) could get bodied easily for trying and the Simurgh can't see him anymore. Just a weird oversight. Are we sure Joe doesn't have some kind of mind protection built in already?Well, that's my recent suspicion immediately vindicated during this chapter's Victor drama.
Joe in fact didn't make mind-shields for himself and his team members, which is a bafflingly enormous oversight, considering he and his teammates know the enormous damage someone who gets even the slightest access to Joe's mind could do.
And that's not even counting how OOC not super-thoroughly guarding his mind could be argued to be—considering Joe's repeatedly emphasized wariness of master effects and his deep seated fear of him/his abilities being used by another maliciously.
I've heard that a lot of deaf people don't like the implication that they ought to be cured, though I suppose since the waitress has an implant she wouldn't fall into that category. Probably wouldn't like having her body mucked around with at a touch regardless.I just imagined Joe fixing the waitress's ears with just a casual touch of the hand and sending the room into chaos. This story has me by the balls.
Only the AIs got that. We can see Victor's power reaching out to Joe and Aisha and such in this chapter, so they aren't manton protected at the very least.He gave them the same manton effect that Weld's skin has, effectively making them immune to masters.
No, that quote specifically seems to be in reference to how they're focusing their attention away from Victor to reduce the effect. Not how any tech or powers are protecting them.The Celestial Forge team does have defense against mind attacks (or at the very least Victor's skill theft), through the story don't tell whenever it's from an XCOM Mind shield or something else.
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I really don't think Victor was trying to get anything. His power was attached to everyone, teammates included. It's like he's got guns for hands; everyone is worried he'll shoot them, but he can't just cut his hands off to assuage them. He also wouldn't have any reason to believe he could steal useful skills from a tinker, both because he can't copy powers and because he didn't have nearly enough time to get anything significant from anyone.Did Victor get anything useful from the group? as in some alchemy skills or something clearly supernatural?
Oh, good point. Yeah, since powers aren't working off a single model of mind interface it does make securing the mind a bit more complex. They have a pretty good scan of Victor's method now, at least.Survey, Fleet, and Matrix have anti-Master tech in the form of Weld's living metal. The also have access to psy-dampners like the rest of the crew. The issue with anti-master is the category is broad range and the effects which create the rating are as varied as any other power. Anti-magic wards, the psy-dampner, and special gear may work on a single instance of a master power, but are not universal. Unless it is a fiat backed power than he always runs the risk of running into a hard counter to any device he makes.
I don't know much of what went down in Ward with… it was Damsel's clone, right? But this version of her seems very desperate and vulnerable as presented. Starving, isolated, violently engaged with the surrounding community, psychologically disturbed and incoherently rambling; people in less bad situations have caved into working with Nazis.To be perfectly honest, I audibly complained when Damsel was revealed because I personally think she's better than working with Nazis, but I think I can see where you're going and also why most cape teams need an annihilator, so fair enough. I still think you're doing her dirty, but I can put it aside if she's stomping all over the E88.
I mean, Apeiron's team also already used their powers to call out Victor's power in a rather flashy display. Doesn't seem like anyone is brave enough to call them out on it.Did the Forge just screw Joe over?
Seconds after calling someone out about using powers on everyone being a breach of truce, his new introduction graphic might appear to to do exactly the same.
Just the sort of thing that Uppercrust would jump on to get some leverage over Apeiron. Kaiser would also get in on the act just to try and save some face.
More like ignoring it in the hope that BCF doesn't turn into a GrimDerp shit fest like the Warhammer 40k Universe.Yo listen, if you don't see the humor in simply the start of the summit, the literal sit down at a table and start talking, being an actual 40k word arc then you just don't get BCF. 🤷🏼♂️😂
Ah, I've caught up a bit now. It apparently takes a lot of programming, research, and experimentation to make calibrated enhancement nanites. Hopefully, with the recent nainite perks, that process can be greatly accelerated.Loved the chapter, was doing a re read when this came up, and I found this:
Can you imagine thinking this will be your normal for the rest of your life? Especially being so long lived?All he know is "I've been gaining powers at a frantic rate for the last 2 weeks", "powerful powers are getting more common over time", and at best "I gain powers faster when in direct combat" (through I don't think he realized the last one yet).
Any interlude that covers new ground counts for points, as has always been the way.Note: Lord appears to have massaged the rolls a little. I believe Uppercrust's interlude was counted from a points perspective to result in this number of rolls.
Strangered them to think. Sorry, this is rapidly becoming a pet peeve of mine. Perception changes like hallucinations, viewing people as friend, and so on are Stranger effects. Calling Card, A Thing About Names, and so on are textbook stranger effects. I get that the characters wouldn't know that because they don't know the limitations, but I am just personally tired of seeing "Mastered" thrown around so much by the fandom.And nobody flinched from "the Enigmatic Artificer" afterthought that Apeiron had globally implanted (read: Mastered them to think)?
They could just assume it's an extension of the The Enigmatic Engineer thing.Did the Forge just screw Joe over?
Seconds after calling someone out about using powers on everyone being a breach of truce, his new introduction graphic might appear to to do exactly the same.
Just the sort of thing that Uppercrust would jump on to get some leverage over Apeiron. Kaiser would also get in on the act just to try and save some face.
Can you imagine thinking this will be your normal for the rest of your life? Especially being so long lived?
Any interlude that covers new ground counts for points, as has always been the way.
Apeiron: I'll just eat some food. Can't be too dramatic.But there IS an off switch. You just have to avoid doing things that are extremely impressive or dramatic. Can't be too hard, right? ... right?
And now I'm looking forward to borderland style intros for each. Or have it play out as a full beginning cinematicOf course! Of course he gets this in the chapter he has to introduce his team!
The Forge knows what timing is, it just doesn't care for making life easy.
Victor now is, or soon will be, a marked man.
Word of what his power is and how it works as well as that he violated a truce with it will spread quite fast, most likely via the Elite once Uppercrust sends his situation report. Which means that anyone who has friendly / neutral dealings with the E88 is likely to insist on his absence from any meetings and anyone with unfriendly / hostile dealings with them will make him an priority target.
Some will even put him on their list just out of general principles, even if they do not interact with the E88 otherwise.
Kaiser should know this and unfortunately for him killing Victor, one of his more reliable and trusted underlings, might placate some of the non-E88 factions but will make the tensions between the internal factions (Damsel of Distress, Hookwolf's Crew, Gesellschaft contingent (aka Krieg), the Herren Clan and Purity worse.
The next chapter is just a YouTube video, leaving us to wonder how many points it earns.And now I'm looking forward to borderland style intros for each. Or have it play out as a full beginning cinematic
He has an interest in making things better. At the level of power he currently operates at, he can remove the E88 & other gangs from the bay as an after thought. The only reason he doesn't is because of bigger concerns that might become aware of him before he's ready (or thinks he's ready) to deal with if he makes too much of a splash.A bunch of people are making this point, so only quoting once and not tagging anyone, but... is this really true? Has Joe expressed any interest in going after E88?
Eh, Joe's existing resistance and active quarantine efforts probably muddled things too much. How would he know the difference between a sudden influx of skills and greater access due to Joe thinking about him?So...wait. If Victor was doing his thing when Apeiron connected to a new mote, did he detect that Joe suddenly got a ton of new skills jammed into his head from nowhere?
Wave."The cape known as Victor propagates a reactive carrier waver dispersed through partially impregnated dimensional fabric anchored through feedback from perception centers.