Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Is the Forge going to run out of perks? Like, in another million words or whatever? Or will new constellations be added from time to time?

Yes, the Forge is finite, but the story is likely to be over before that point. If it isn't, then yeah, Lord will probably add more constellations.

And nobody flinched from "the Enigmatic Artificer" afterthought that Apeiron had globally implanted (read: Mastered them to think)?

That's, like, 2 days old news. They have better thing to panic about.
 
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Yo listen, if you don't see the humor in simply the start of the summit, the literal sit down at a table and start talking, being an actual 40k word arc then you just don't get BCF. 🤷🏼‍♂️😂
 
Imposing Declaration of Title (Asura's Wrath) Free:
Whenever you do something dramatic or just something really badass, perception of you changes for a splitsecond. Observers see the title or highconcept description of your current state or action as awesome block characters superimposed on their vision. This applies to named attacks/combat maneuvers, legendary weapons, companions and so on.
Of course! Of course he gets this in the chapter he has to introduce his team!
The Forge knows what timing is, it just doesn't care for making life easy.
 
Kaiser: Hurr Durr let's get Victor to steal some skillz

Apeiron,Uppercrust,Tattletale: Called out

Kaisar: *surprised pikachu face*
I don't think Victor was stealing skills. His power just doesn't haven't an off switch, so even when he isn't skill stealing his mind tentacles are already waiting in your brain.
I wonder if the Empire even knew how Victor's powers worked. It's not exactly something that's easy to figure out.
Yeah, exactly. Not even a flanderized dumbass Kaiser would order Victor to go full blast on every cape in the room, including his team mates. It's gotta just be automatic and largely inactive when unfocused.
Well, that's my recent suspicion immediately vindicated during this chapter's Victor drama.

Joe in fact didn't make mind-shields for himself and his team members, which is a bafflingly enormous oversight, considering he and his teammates know the enormous damage someone who gets even the slightest access to Joe's mind could do.

And that's not even counting how OOC not super-thoroughly guarding his mind could be argued to be—considering Joe's repeatedly emphasized wariness of master effects and his deep seated fear of him/his abilities being used by another maliciously.
Actually, yeah. Joe could protect his brain pretty easy at this point. He oughta get on that. It's not like it's being purposefully ignored so certain threats can stay threats; Victor (and most other parahumans) could get bodied easily for trying and the Simurgh can't see him anymore. Just a weird oversight. Are we sure Joe doesn't have some kind of mind protection built in already?
I just imagined Joe fixing the waitress's ears with just a casual touch of the hand and sending the room into chaos. This story has me by the balls.
I've heard that a lot of deaf people don't like the implication that they ought to be cured, though I suppose since the waitress has an implant she wouldn't fall into that category. Probably wouldn't like having her body mucked around with at a touch regardless.
He gave them the same manton effect that Weld's skin has, effectively making them immune to masters.
Only the AIs got that. We can see Victor's power reaching out to Joe and Aisha and such in this chapter, so they aren't manton protected at the very least.
The Celestial Forge team does have defense against mind attacks (or at the very least Victor's skill theft), through the story don't tell whenever it's from an XCOM Mind shield or something else.

From this chapter :
No, that quote specifically seems to be in reference to how they're focusing their attention away from Victor to reduce the effect. Not how any tech or powers are protecting them.
Did Victor get anything useful from the group? as in some alchemy skills or something clearly supernatural?
I really don't think Victor was trying to get anything. His power was attached to everyone, teammates included. It's like he's got guns for hands; everyone is worried he'll shoot them, but he can't just cut his hands off to assuage them. He also wouldn't have any reason to believe he could steal useful skills from a tinker, both because he can't copy powers and because he didn't have nearly enough time to get anything significant from anyone.
Survey, Fleet, and Matrix have anti-Master tech in the form of Weld's living metal. The also have access to psy-dampners like the rest of the crew. The issue with anti-master is the category is broad range and the effects which create the rating are as varied as any other power. Anti-magic wards, the psy-dampner, and special gear may work on a single instance of a master power, but are not universal. Unless it is a fiat backed power than he always runs the risk of running into a hard counter to any device he makes.
Oh, good point. Yeah, since powers aren't working off a single model of mind interface it does make securing the mind a bit more complex. They have a pretty good scan of Victor's method now, at least.
To be perfectly honest, I audibly complained when Damsel was revealed because I personally think she's better than working with Nazis, but I think I can see where you're going and also why most cape teams need an annihilator, so fair enough. I still think you're doing her dirty, but I can put it aside if she's stomping all over the E88.
I don't know much of what went down in Ward with… it was Damsel's clone, right? But this version of her seems very desperate and vulnerable as presented. Starving, isolated, violently engaged with the surrounding community, psychologically disturbed and incoherently rambling; people in less bad situations have caved into working with Nazis.
Did the Forge just screw Joe over?
Seconds after calling someone out about using powers on everyone being a breach of truce, his new introduction graphic might appear to to do exactly the same.
Just the sort of thing that Uppercrust would jump on to get some leverage over Apeiron. Kaiser would also get in on the act just to try and save some face.
I mean, Apeiron's team also already used their powers to call out Victor's power in a rather flashy display. Doesn't seem like anyone is brave enough to call them out on it.
 
Yo listen, if you don't see the humor in simply the start of the summit, the literal sit down at a table and start talking, being an actual 40k word arc then you just don't get BCF. 🤷🏼‍♂️😂
More like ignoring it in the hope that BCF doesn't turn into a GrimDerp shit fest like the Warhammer 40k Universe.
 
All he know is "I've been gaining powers at a frantic rate for the last 2 weeks", "powerful powers are getting more common over time", and at best "I gain powers faster when in direct combat" (through I don't think he realized the last one yet).
Can you imagine thinking this will be your normal for the rest of your life? Especially being so long lived?
 
And nobody flinched from "the Enigmatic Artificer" afterthought that Apeiron had globally implanted (read: Mastered them to think)?
Strangered them to think. Sorry, this is rapidly becoming a pet peeve of mine. Perception changes like hallucinations, viewing people as friend, and so on are Stranger effects. Calling Card, A Thing About Names, and so on are textbook stranger effects. I get that the characters wouldn't know that because they don't know the limitations, but I am just personally tired of seeing "Mastered" thrown around so much by the fandom.
 
Did the Forge just screw Joe over?
Seconds after calling someone out about using powers on everyone being a breach of truce, his new introduction graphic might appear to to do exactly the same.
Just the sort of thing that Uppercrust would jump on to get some leverage over Apeiron. Kaiser would also get in on the act just to try and save some face.
They could just assume it's an extension of the The Enigmatic Engineer thing.
 
Can you imagine thinking this will be your normal for the rest of your life? Especially being so long lived?

Capes are not known for their long lives, especially independent capes. Admittedly, Apeiron is as far from normal as possible, but still, the normal cape culture color how he perceive things. Like, for example, how he overestimate normal tinkers and underestimate his own work.

(Also it's hard to take a step back to reflect on those things when your life is frantic chaos)

Any interlude that covers new ground counts for points, as has always been the way.

Actually, not always. There was a time where interlude gave no points (near the start of the story I think ?).
 
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The theory hes a power copier gains new grounds. Confronts Victor: gains a new power that effects peoples minds.

All we need is him to show he can now manipulate metal and anyone at the meeting will realize he was staring Kaiser in the face when he went in a thinker trance. Ergo he just copied Kaiser's power at the at moment.
 
We all know that Tetra wants to fight with Joe, so why doesn't he build a set of combat tentacles?

An armored back-plate that Tetra would anchor to his suit through, along with 2+ armor-segments/sheathes that Tetra could weave her limbs through, to allow her to both draw from Joe and manipulate things in the world around her while being protected by his Fashion power (tentacle leg warmers maybe?) IE, help fight... Or have a really cool movement method.
Spidermanning across the city on firey-red extendo-limbs? Sounds like something Apeiron would do.
Plus, he could make the limbs link to his implant, and act as more hands for crafting (not that he needs the help, but it's something)
 
Jokes aside: great work as always Lord.

You know, I've sort of been vaguely aware of the Victor speculation so it's not a surprise to see it come up but I was surprised how much of an event it turned out to be. I half-expected Apeiron to cobble together some jammer in the car and then just brush over it but nope, it's a big deal.

I also didn't really see it tying into the new internal power struggle with Damsel and I think that was a nice touch of three-dimensionality to the E88. Hopefully Damsel and Kaiser keep each other busy.

Nice to also see that Joe's passenger is on the Travelers ball. And that he knows Tattletale knows something. At least that slow-moving train has some warning signs.
 
Victor now is, or soon will be, a marked man.
Word of what his power is and how it works as well as that he violated a truce with it will spread quite fast, most likely via the Elite once Uppercrust sends his situation report. Which means that anyone who has friendly / neutral dealings with the E88 is likely to insist on his absence from any meetings and anyone with unfriendly / hostile dealings with them will make him an priority target.
Some will even put him on their list just out of general principles, even if they do not interact with the E88 otherwise.

Kaiser should know this and unfortunately for him killing Victor, one of his more reliable and trusted underlings, might placate some of the non-E88 factions but will make the tensions between the internal factions (Damsel of Distress, Hookwolf's Crew, Gesellschaft contingent (aka Krieg), the Herren Clan and Purity worse.

When 'ole Uppercrust stopped acting like an affable old man and threatened to destroy the E88, Gesellshaft, and the Herren Clan, did anyone else get a flashback to Tywin Lannister sending "King" Joffrey to bed for a nap because the royal prat was acting cranky and childish?

 
A bunch of people are making this point, so only quoting once and not tagging anyone, but... is this really true? Has Joe expressed any interest in going after E88?
He has an interest in making things better. At the level of power he currently operates at, he can remove the E88 & other gangs from the bay as an after thought. The only reason he doesn't is because of bigger concerns that might become aware of him before he's ready (or thinks he's ready) to deal with if he makes too much of a splash.
 
Hm… the real question is, can Mantra be turned into something and then turned back, so as to horribly abuse his resource perks. Mandala Arrays, size shifting weapons or an External Mantra Interface indicate yes, which has exciting implications.
 
So...wait. If Victor was doing his thing when Apeiron connected to a new mote, did he detect that Joe suddenly got a ton of new skills jammed into his head from nowhere?
Eh, Joe's existing resistance and active quarantine efforts probably muddled things too much. How would he know the difference between a sudden influx of skills and greater access due to Joe thinking about him?
 
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