Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Technically speaking, I thought about a number of ways Joe could resurrect Hero, and even 'fix' Alan Gramme. Both involve Terminator time travel, but the paradox aversion stipulations of its usage allow for a variety of actions that don't impact the timeline, to the point that I'd call it outright broken in ways Lord might already expect.

For the latter, as an example, he could get a scan of his brain just prior to being mind whammied by the Simurgh and use that as a reference point for unfucking Mannequin's head. DNA samples of his family, scans of their brains and subtle capture mechanisms to grab their souls when they die would allow him to clone them new bodies and resurrect them.

Similarly, Hero would only have to appear to be dead. He was alive for a short period of time after the Siberian tore him in half. While Eidolon couldn't fix him, it'd be trivial for Joe to pull a switcheroo on his torso portion and just put him into stasis for later.

Or collect similar brain scans on every Simurgh victim in the quarantine zones and use them to verify sanity once intense blindspot interaction / subjective time in VR receiving fiat-backed therapy from Joe.

Hell, Joe could start doing that with many capes, past and present. Who's prescient enough to realize godlike powers didn't fix their baggage and voluntarily continue going to therapy even after succeeding as a Cape? Joe, apparently.

It should be clear enough to him incentivizing as many Capes as possible to go for therapy might actually fix more of the world than new Triggers ever manage to break.
I think the craziest application of having the Terminator perk and therefore time travel is that Joe could travel to the beginning of humanity, make a divine spiritron atman scanning supercomputer that covers the planet and beyond and conceptually keep it hidden in an isolated pocket dimension. It'd be something on the level of Vector Sigma + Moon Cell and could cover all Earths (at least the 10^80). He can store and save every soul to have ever existed since the dawn of humanity. He'd create an afterlife. Furthermore, he could have Bastion cores to remember worlds and could reset them in the event of disaster.
 
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You know it occurs to me that Joe could probably make miniature/collapsible atoms at this point, probably by hand by virtue of either hammering matter really hard or by making a nuclear-force neutralizing anvil or something, and I'm pretty sure Matrix would want some of those. Like screw this nanoscale bullshit let's get into femto- and pico-scale technology.

Relatedly would grating cheese count as hand-crafting each individual sliver of cheese that got carved off of the block by the grater? Because I feel like hammering subatomic particles though a nuclear-force nullifying field and into another one that allowed them to bind to eachother in a single chosen configuration would count just as much.
 
You know it occurs to me that Joe could probably make miniature/collapsible atoms at this point, probably by hand by virtue of either hammering matter really hard or by making a nuclear-force neutralizing anvil or something, and I'm pretty sure Matrix would want some of those. Like screw this nanoscale bullshit let's get into femto- and pico-scale technology.
There's an item for that in the Celestial Forge but I don't think Joe can roll it. It was Endless Legend's Dust IIRC.
 
I think the craziest application of having the Terminator perk and therefore time travel is that Joe could travel to the beginning of humanity, make a divine spiritron atman scanning supercomputer that covers the planet and beyond and conceptually keep it hidden in an isolated pocket dimension. It'd be something on the level of Vector Sigma + Moon Cell and could cover all Earths (at least the 10^80). He can store and save every soul to have ever existed since the dawn of humanity. He'd create an afterlife. Furthermore, he could have Bastion cores to remember worlds and could reset them in the event of disaster.

"So you're saying," Dragon said - not vocally, but through super-fast electronic channels - "that you have actually created a synthetic afterlife for everyone on Earth?!"

"No, for everyone who has ever lived on every Earth!"
 
I think the craziest application of having the Terminator perk and therefore time travel is that Joe could travel to the beginning of humanity, make a divine spiritron atman scanning supercomputer that covers the planet and beyond and conceptually keep it hidden in an isolated pocket dimension. It'd be something on the level of Vector Sigma + Moon Cell and could cover all Earths (at least the 10^80). He can store and save every soul to have ever existed since the dawn of humanity. He'd create an afterlife. Furthermore, he could have Bastion cores to remember worlds and could reset them in the event of disaster.
If merely scanning, than you are still leaving the original souls hanging and merely making due with perfect copies.
If you are left to die, but a perfect copy of you is made and given a life of luxury, is that right or even reasonable?
Should a perfect duplicate count for all purposes as the original?
The answers and logic for these questions can be intuitively mapped to your proposed concept as it stands.

One may attempt to get around these issues by killing or destroying originals, but that raises new dilemmas.
Is it right to end a life to enable another to fill its role or create a sense of continuity in which a desired result is emulated?
Does appearance and practical effect take precedence over history and real personal continuity for the individual?
 
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Is it right to end a life to enable another to fill its role or create a sense of continuity in which a desired result is emulated?

Ship of Theseus argument.

Based off of the supposedly historical ship sailed by the hero Theseus which was kept in a harbor as a museum piece. As the years went by the wooden parts (oars, planks, etc.) began to rot and were replaced by new ones. After a century or so every part had been replaced at least once.

Plutarch was the philosopher who asked whether the "restored" ship was still the same object as the original.

Thomas Hobbes would later ask if, hypothetically, the original discarded planks were to be gathered up and used to assemble a second ship, which ship would be the true ship of Theseus?


 
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PHO - Brockton Food Scene (Bailey Matutine)
[Time for a resurgence of the PHO Blacksmithery now that the plot is taking on a more public stance going forward. There's a new prompt in the thread, so go there and join us!
This is "Bailey Matutine - Brockton Food Scene" in the thread prompted and claimed by @Bailey Matutine , but was sadly not posted. It's too good to leave unposted, so I shall distribute it here.]


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♦ Topic: Brockton Bay Food Scene - Featuring a Suggestion by Weld
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
JustOneDrop
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Posted On Apr 20th 2011:
Hey friends, I've done a bunch of these but it recently came to my attention that I haven't done one for my home town, Brockton Bay. I travel a lot for work, so I like to get suggestions on where to get food — with a particular interest in takeaway or delivery — before I actually travel there. Somebody thanked me for setting up one of these because turns out they were visiting the same city, and it occurred to me that while I don't need advice for my home town, I can give advice for my home town. Now, as is traditional, I'll start the thread off with a suggestion from another cape, this time Weld of the Wards. Now, we all know he likes his food extra spicy so he can taste it, so take his suggestion with a boulder of salt, everybody!

Best Thai Restaurant: This one was suggested by Weld, and the name is kind of plain, but from what I hear they live up to that claim. The Pad Khee Mao is an obvious must-try, but this is a port town so they have a ton of local seafood as well.

Ruby Dreams Casino and Restaurant: This one's my own suggestion. Technically not inside the incorporated city limits of Brockton Bay at all, most people still consider it part of the Brockton Bay food scene. Mostly because they're only "outside" Brockton Bay for legal and tax purposes, like many casinos. A favored truck stop for people heading in and out of Brockton Bay, it lends an opportunity to enjoy a clanging slot machine and a banging lobster mac and cheeseburger. Seriously, you have not lived until you've had one of these bad boys.

Shady Dave Pizza and Gelato: I know, another one with a bad or at least uninspired name. They are a staple for Brocktonites because who can say no to delivery ice cream, yeah? The ice cream actually stacks up really well against most ice cream parlors I've been to, and the pizza is fairly decent if average, but it's pizza and that's all anybody really cares about. Order from here because they will deliver ice cream. Just, uh, find out what the flavor of the day is before you order it, because they churn their own and some of the flavors are a bit surprising to the unwary.

Anyways, that's a good mix to start things off, chime in with your own favorite local eats or feel free to ask questions, everybody!

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►Survivor2
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
OMG! I didn't think that you could pay wards to say stuff for you:eyebrow: Yes, those capes are forced to go door to door to sell their cookies with their face on them for charity or whatevs. But aren't they Wards technically public officials, this reeks of something, like, corruption.​
Is he some kind of beggar I thought that the PRT was supposed to give those superpowered orphans that nobody else cares about money to live of:jackiechan:
Nothing against C53s, but I'm not gonna fall for this transparent ploy. Everybody knows that Weld can't taste Sh*t:eyeroll:
►Tin_Mother (Moderator)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
You are on thin ice here @ Survivor your post is on the edge of an infraction.​
►JustOneDrop (Original Poster)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Not sure what you're ranting about, but Weld can taste very strong flavors. You don't have to take his word for it. You can make your own suggestions or disagree with people. This is just a thread for talking about the Brockton Bay food scene. C53s aren't really on topic. The only relevance they have to this thread is that Weld is one and he happened to be the cape suggestion for this thread. Nobody claims that Chevalier was paid by that one food truck for saying they had the best pirogies in Philly.​
►CatNoLongerInTheBag
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
@ JustOneDrop​
Nobody said he was paid because he was literally held at gun point.​
Pirogie Pete was a loon.​
Which is a shame, because he actually had really good pirogies...​
►SpadeOfHearts
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Not a local, though I'm currently living in with one. They said Fugly Bob's is a good place to get chow from, though it can get pricey.​
I wonder how Weld's thing for spice started? I might want to ask where he got it from.​
►armoredArmadillo (Moderator)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Cat, we've told you before. Keep your nonsense to the tinfoil threads. That literally never happened. This is warning five, so it's an infraction.​
►Ship1
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
:grin: that Weld discovered the food of my people.​
I wish that I could stand the food of my ancestors:sad: it's so darn 🌶🔥🌶. Do they serve children's menus in 'Best Thai Restaurant':???:
►BoredomRamzee (Verified Food Snob)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Really? How good can Thai cuisine be in New Hampshire? You might as well get McDonald's and call it fine dining 🤮​
I cannot recommend Bobby's Bayside enough. Clam chowder made right: thick, creamy and perfectly salted, with just the right balance of fresh, locally sourced ingredients. They also offer excellent service and a phenomenal drinks menu, emphasis on local breweries. Eat local!​
►TypewriterMonkey (Moderator)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Please be aware that Bobby's Bayside has recently been implicated as a money-laundering front for the Brockton Bay-based criminal organization, 'Azn Bad Boyz'. This is not a warning as the information has not been confirmed in a court of law, but a reminder that PHO does not endorse or promote illegal activities.​
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►BoredomRamzee (Verified Food Snob)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
They what?! Never eating there again! The food was shite anyways. Also you write like a wanker.​
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►InsertUsername (Verified User)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Just in time. Chances are good that the top-brass will send me on a business trip to the BB. So, where can I get a good grill there?​
Do not suggest PRT/FBI cellars. :p
►MagikMice
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
You can always try the navy cellar?​
►Ship1
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
I do not know where to get a good grill, but check this [HERE] out before you choose a restaurant.​
The cellars of the gangs tend to be worse than those of the PRT/FBI especially for women :sour:
The snack bars owned by the ones 'owned' by the merchants should also be avoided. A friend of a friend who was bought some fries there. And it took a year before he could be safely released from the 🏥 due to some para-human 💉 interacting with his 💊​
►TypewriterMonkey (Moderator)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
A reminder that the thread topic is food recommendations within Brockton Bay, not criminal activity, whether or not it occurs within the food world. That topic can be found here. Also, please avoid fearmongering by spreading baseless rumors.​
To contribute to the topic: the bar Monkey Business (located along the corner of Lord's and 15th) offers a signature banana sundae float over whiskey. I guarantee you haven't had anything like it before. They deliver, as well.​
►ThePhantomKnows
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
@ Mr. Goatman While freshness is key when choosing seafood, it wouldn't hurt to know more about the place's cook. Any chance we can get confirmation from your friend about the chef's abilities? Sounds like your friend enjoyed his meal quite a bit.​
►Mr. Goatman (Unverified Cape)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Of course, I'd hardly recommend without his word. My contact sounded quite dramatic, said he felt like a new man afterwards. Even went so far as to say the experience reminded him of 'what it is to be human.' If that's not a glowing endorsement, I don't know what is. Reservations are quite difficult to get, unfortunately.​
►NoPineapplesHere
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
I've heard about a little pizza joint on the corner of Jefferson and Turner. It's fairly new, and service is slow since it seems to be only staffed by a single high-schooler at times, but the pizza is amazballs. No delivery, but I think this is a place to watch. Once they get a few more employees we might see the local pizza world have a big shake up.​
Edit: Can't believe I forgot the name of the place. It's called 'Slice of Life'​
►inabook
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
If you guys are talking about the restaurant I think you are, I hear the cook is fairly eccentric but goodhearted. If you managed to speak to him there's a good chance he'd swing a reservation for you, but he's pretty reclusive, so who knows how that'd work out.​
►ThePhantomKnows
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
@ inabook Most genuis' (geni?) tend to be reclusive like that. I think the stereotype is that they're a bit mad, if you take my drift. Hope this isn't the case, based off of what Goatman is saying...​
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►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
...Is anybody else getting 'we're definitely talking about restaurants and nothing else' vibes from these last few posts? Like, I don't think they've said a name for whatever 'restaurant' they're talking about.​
In any case, to stay on topic, I'll second that Slice of Life recommendation. They have one pizza there which could be used as a weapon of war, it's so spicy. Weld would probably enjoy it :p.​
►Butterfish (Verified Cape)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
I am still in the city because the super ice bowl so I am hoping to make an order too. It's kind of sad that all I have is some leftover from Weld's quick order.​
At least, gorgeous, the plates are.​
►SevenFootByTheSea
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Well, one other major issue with restaurant in Brockton Bay is that the best asian restaurant tends to also be (un)official ABB meeting places. Likewise with european food and Nazis. So, I would strongly recommand to take the food "to go" for those cases...​
... And this is also frustrating when all you want is a good curry but there is a crazy mad bomber out there.​
Quick anectode, for the out-of-towners: this is also the reason why we no longer have a "Best restaurant of BB" competition. The first (and last) year the Mayor tried to organize that, the gangs got pulled in the competition and they started to be awfully competitive.​
Let's say it ended up hillariously wrong.​
►JustADream
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Well, spicy food isn't really my tango but I know a place that serves a rather nasty curry. Haven't personally went there but a buddy of mine did.​
The mad man that he is took the spiciest thing on the menu, and he had to fill some documents about it because, and I quote his words "Curry made with some Jalapeno Phantom bullshit" or something like that.​
Needless to say my buddy got very intimate with his toilet after that- fucker sent me photos of the aftermath (bragging about it like it was something to be proud off), it wasn't pretty.​
The name of the restaurant is "Bollywood Spice" for anyone wondering.​
Edit: Never fucking mind- the place got caught in the slapfest between Lung and Aperion, if the map of the later is any accurate, that is.​
►DrowningInTheBay
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
There's this really nice Ethiopian place called Nile Cuisine about a block away from the PRT HQ, really enjoy eating there for lunch. Not alot of places like that around BB anymore due to all the Nazis, but I'm glad a select few were able to survive. There is Calypso Carryout which is pretty much the only place in BB to get Jamaican place in the city. It aint bad, but i personally think the food is a bit underseasoned. Alot of good businesses were ran outa town when Marquis was arrested, not saying he was a good guy or anything just that he kept the E88 in check better than the other criminal aspects of the Bay.​
►PolishHandGrenade
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Not a restaurant, so it might not count, but there's a little polish market shop tucked away on Washington, down by Winslow High. Great place to pick up pierogis and golumpki. They're only open from noon to seven on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. I think it is operated/run by an old couple whose kids moved away years ago. Try to go during the afternoon, before the gang-wannabes from Winslow get out for the day.​
Be nice to the proprietors. They're good people. They donated their entire week's stock to a local shelter after the first of those ABB bombings.​
Edit: No, my username is not me being clever. I've had this username long before that crazy bitch decided to start putting bombs in people.​
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►SpadeOfHearts
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Now I want to know what happened in that Best BB Restaurant competition that somehow pulled in the gangs. What, did the Nazi's push for their Fuhrer Pizzeria, made from the blood of their forefathers? The Merchant's drugged Cocktails and Martinis? ABB's Double L Special, featuring a hot and cold combination signifying the battle between Lung and Leviathan?​
...Now that I think about it, the last one sounds really good. Still, I think Distinctive Delicatessens would win if it were to be held again. They've been approved by Garment, and their food and drinks are just perfect. I wonder if there's any chance we could get anything ironic in the menu.​
►Voyager
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
@ OhNoMyUsername​
The restaurant was the Nautilus, that is near the broadwalk. The reason the name was never said is probably because the owner is an asian woman that lived with her family just above the restaurant, considering what happened recently to asians here probably didn't want to reveal her existence to the ABB if they were able to go unnoticed.​
Unfortunately, and the reason I am telling the name now other to avoid another tinfoil plot is to annunce that the shop is closed , hopefully just for the near future.​
A bomb exploded in the apartment, and nobody saw neither the woman nor her daughter in the last days.​
considering that the one that introduced me to their fantastic fish was their husband that was my high school janitor, that i remember from the Bakuda video, please tell me if anyone has news of them?​
►InsertUsername (Verified User)​
Replied On Apr 20th 2011:​
Thanks, guys. With that info, hopefully, I'll manage to live through my trip without the accidental poisoning myself by bad food or lead.​
@ Voyager, too bad. I would like to visit this restaurant. If someone can PM me when it will be open, and where since they, probably, will be forced to look for the new place, I'll be very grateful.​
Edit: I heard that there's a neat, if severely overpriced, place with tough face control that worth attending. Somber Doom? Sober Music? Someone's Stone? Something like that. For those who looking for good seafood - on Sunday the dish of the day will be something-something octopus (the name of the dish is in Greek, so I can't vouch for what it actually is). I'm not that much of a gourmet to appreciate it, but for those who willing to risk their tastebids - you know where to go.​
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If merely scanning, than you are still leaving the original souls hanging and merely making due with perfect copies.
If you are left to die, but a perfect copy of you is made and given a life of luxury, is that right or even reasonable?
Should a perfect duplicate count for all purposes as the original?
The answers and logic for these questions can be intuitively mapped to your proposed concept as it stands.

One may attempt to get around these issues by killing or destroying originals, but that raises new dilemmas.
Is it right to end a life to enable another to fill its role or create a sense of continuity in which a desired result is emulated?
Does appearance and practical effect take precedence over history and real personal continuity for the individual?
Well it'd be a better continuity of existence then the shitty meat processor that people are currently stuck with. I'm pretty sure that the formatting of that thing ends up with a copy of a copy of the thoughts that you're currently thinking once all of the storage mediums are done with a experience.
There's an item for that in the Celestial Forge but I don't think Joe can roll it. It was Endless Legend's Dust IIRC.
I was thinking something more closely related to polymimetic alloy or Tibetium. Endless Space Dust seems to be more like Kryptonians or a Mass Effect Omnitool in that they manipulate exotic energy and achieve most other effects as a extension of it.
 
PHO - Why The Ship (LocknLoad)
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"Why The Ship (LocknLoad)"
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♦ Topic: why the ship?
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
chris Hanson
(Original Poster)
Posted On Mar 5th 2011:
Well... Today we got our first real glips at the body of the person behind the mask of Apeiron.

And, He, Is, Stacked.

Like seriously the guy puts professional bodybuilders to shame, And while we can't be totally sure about the legitimacy of his muscle we are at least able to make an educated guess on his age. I personally put my estimation in the range of 25-30 from his body(purely looks), actions, and maturity. While I would put the undersides at 17-20.

We know that Apeiron values Khepris over the rest of the Undersiders (see Uber/Leet storage-yard stream) and just from the quality of her gear and clearly cares for her.
This suggests a personal relationship beyond merc/villain and most likely know each other in their civilian lives. and it's obviously more than just acquaintance or a friend of a friend. But the age gap is rather wide and not something that can be ignored.

So my question is, why are we shipping Him with Khepris? I know that we PHO people™ love to speculate and ship our favorite capes, But why are people shipping a clear adult with somebody who might not even be of legal age or at least only barely? Personally, I find other forms of relationship speculation more favorable(and realistic) than this ship, which is ruining the uninitiated's view on PHO relationship speculation. People are all for shipping Hero and Alexandria as Apeiron's parents, but would rather ship Khepris and Apeiron over Father/daughter, brother/sister, or even a cool uncle.

What gives?

Let the speculation begin!!!

I myself like the idea of Apeiron watching his Daughter/Niece/little sister, go out as a cape so he kitted out her whole little team with all the lethal goodies out of concern.
and I find it super cute.


Edit: also forgot to mention this before but there will be NO speculation on the identities of capes.
you will receive a thread ban for it.


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►Moored out to sea
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Because we're PHO, meaning the vast majority of what we do is shipping (and arguing about who would beat the shit out of who).

►MoodKindred!
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Given that Apeiron appears to be around 30 at the oldest, and Khepri is a teen, I doubt that they have a father/daughter relationship, as Apeiron is too young to be her father. He is thus probably an older brother/uncle/cousin, if they are related at all. He could just be a mentor figure, rather than a relative.

►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
The Problem is the shippers who have gained the most attention is the Khepeiron shippers, mostly due to all the infractions/bans. Plenty of people dont actually follow the gross ship. The Dadpeiron ship doesnt make sense if the ape of iron is anywhere near his theorized age. It'd mean he had a daughter when he was 17~19, the uncle theory I can buy more since (no offense to Apeiron) he just doesnt give off Paternal vibes when he went to go help Khepri. Also the Hero×Alexandria shippers were just kinda...invading the Apeiron theory threads when they posted that theory. Like I get liking a certain ship but they tend to do that with alot of tinkers with certain brute ratings.

►Sothoth
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@ChoppyWaters inb4 they invade this thread too along with the die-hard Khepeiron shippers shouting to the world "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR BELIEF"

Still, I like the idea that Khepri views Apeiron like an older relative. Or vice versa. The bad thing is that there are sick fucks who take that idea and push it to the extreme end.

►MoodKindred!
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Khepeiron shippers: The Dadpeiron Hypothesis is not incompatible with our theology.

►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
ugh don't remind me about the absurdity of their weird shit. Honestly their worst crime was that one guy who essentially went "they're criminals of course they'd do that" doesnt mean it is ok to post that crap on PHO

►Jackanape
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
A friend of mine in the PRT told me that there were rumors that in the rules of engagement for Apeiron they're to be very hands off and I quote "Khepri and the Undersiders"

►ItsAMe (Verified Plumber)
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@Jackanape That's 'Lady Khperi'. Get it right before the lass decides to up the local spider population.

And while I avoid shipping in general, the 'Dadperion' angle made me laugh. Not even because of bug-girl, but to any daughters he might have, now or in the future. Can you imagine the Apeiron version of the 'Dad greets his daughter's potential boyfriend with readied shotgun' trope?

►WhateverItIsIDidntDoIt (Verified Skeptic)
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@ ItsAMe Who the hell is going to have the balls to confidently stare into the face of the guy that defeated Lung (when he was ramped up past the point where he fought off Leviathan in Kyushu) and say that they want to date his daughter without pissing themselves? 🙀

That's assuming that they didn't piss themselves when in the presence of Brockton Bay's literal biblical plague bringer. 😵

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►ALoneMadRhino
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@ItsAMe I'd ask who the mom would be, but I don't want this thread to delve to deep into that line of shipping just yet.

►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
I am now going to speculate who Kephri's hypothetical mother would be if the Dadperion thing is true out of spite.

...

What the heck combines with Super Tinker to make a walking plague?

►FarosFaros
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@OhNoMyUsername

Boredom a little time and a test-tube.

Oh, you were talking about Lady Khepri. Same answer.

►SlashQueen
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
I find Khepeiron ship gross. Like, don't do that to kids guys!

Have you guys seen how Leet looked at Apeiron at 3:15?

Apeiron/Leet/Uber OTT FTW! Leepeiron? Uberiron? What are rules for making a OTP into OTT?

►SilkenSilence
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Oh come on guys, how is everyone missing the obvious answer? The crazy fashionable tinker and the fashion cape *have* to be dating. Garpeiron is the only conclusion.

►ItsAMe (Verified Plumber)
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@ SilkenSilence It would explain the fashionable Cape of Doom™ from the Uber and Leet fight.

►VelvetCocoa
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
WAIT, what if the Cape of Doom™ WAS Garment!? And look at his gloves, aren't they unusually always clean? Apeiron and Garment are together physically AND spiritually!

And I vote for Apeiron and Garment being the hypothetical parents. The dramatics and sheer munchkinnery from the father, and the absolute control over bugs from the mother.

►TheBoltingNitwit
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Fellers, we are skippin over the most important part - Apeiron's true form, the case53 thingy that he became when his medical tech got borked in the fight. I don't think Case 53s have human biology anymore, so if Infini-tinky is a Case-53, then he might have simply tinkered himself into a form he felt comfy as, he and Capri might just be friends or she could be the one that found him when he was new to Earth Bet, or maybe she was just his first customer, or hell, maybe she uses her bugs to grab materials for his craft, which is why no one can locate Monkey Steel's supply chain for all those wonderful toys, and also neatly explains why he was so determined to keep her safe - if she gathers stuff for him to use, he'd want her alive and grateful to him!

►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
*gasp*

A logical argument for why a ship might not be valid? In my shipping thread?! The nerve of some people!

Although your idea of Kephri being the one to find him if he was a case 53 has awesome potential for somebody writing a Capefic. Also, now I want to see somebody draw Kephri wearing capris.

Sadly, I am neither an artist, nor a writer.

►ToaterToastToast
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
You all are wrong! Obviously the Ape of Iron (or is he a dino now? Dineiron?) is making himself a Real Girltm, did you seriously not see that clearly girl robot that picked him up after dissapearing Lung!? Seriously! Why would he add high heels to the design otherwise? Balance?

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►ShinySlimeSnaffler
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
@ToasterToastToast
This is a man who breaks the laws of physics to give himself a fucking intro cinematic, programs all his gear to produce epic guitar riffs on command, and did a goddamn anime stance on a lamppost for no discernable reason - at this point, I'm half expecting the heel-suit to be piloted by a cyborg ninja maid. One reason I think the Case 53 theory got so popular is because no sane human raised on Earth Bet would ever try that hard to make such cringy shit, but Apeiron goes so hard on the cringe it smashes out the other side and becomes awesome, purely because no one told him it was cringy or he couldn't do it.

►NoLimits
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
That or they told him he couldn't and he replied with, "Hold my beer."

►ToaterToastToast
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Is only cringy when isn't Apeiron. I mean, look at that shield claw thing, pretty sure he could make those Hot Topic robots from Near look cool. And sexier.

EDIT: Welp, according to the guys in the Apeiron tech thread (here), those high heels could actually be some kind of gravity based balancing device, something about how it runs clued someone in (recording and analisys here). Doesn't mean I'm wrong though!

►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
Guys guys guys, we're getting a bit off topic here. Staying away from the mainstream Draperion and Kepherion (Kephrion? I can never remember how to spell it), what other people can we ship our friendly neighborhood Ape of Iron with?

Personally, I feel like he'd get on well with Mouse Protector. They're both dedicated to their shtick to a crazy degree, even if they're completely different. I feel like an interaction between 'Ow the edge' and 'Kraft wishes it was this cheesy' would be glorious.

►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
First it's Dadpeiron, because Apeiron (aka ape iron) is a greek word, second the only Crack i ship is ChromaticSteel, aka Legend×Apeiron, because God damn is that the best ship name I've ever heard. Also who doesnt love 2 jacked dudes being fucking adorable.

►2ndAmendment
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
I prefer Miss Militia X Apeiron. Mr "I have all the tech" and Ms "I have all the guns." That's what synergy means, right?

►grommetdrinkstea
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
I'm thinking An Iron Pair (Apeiron×Armsmaster) myself, because their chiseled jaws are just :mwah:

Two Iron Pairs (Apeiron×Armsmaster×Chevalier×Dragon) just has some real power suit vibe if ya get me ya know?

►SilkenSilence
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:
While I *do* support Chevy x Armsy, and am a fan of healthy PolyAm, I gotta stick to my guns on Garpeiron.



I'll see you the OT4 and raise you an OT5.

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Hey @LordRoustabout I was about to ask why Tybalt doesn't have Chrono Trigger magic when I saw this from the Chapter 49 - AO3 Comments:
2) The felyne will get every free companion option from Jumps Joe already has access to as well as receive free options from new jumps when Joe gets the relevant perk. Sometimes the companion import might be tied to a specific perk, the same way I allocate certain free items to certain perks, but they will still be accessible. If the import gives a free background or point stipend then I will allocate those for the felyne.
So that's why Tybalt hasn't gotten the Free Companion Import and Element from Chrono Trigger? Is he going to get it when Joe gets an Element just like he'll get the Symphogear when Joe does?
 
It's interesting that Accord was able to figure out the Apeiron and Garment connection as if it was the simplest thing in the world, but Lisa missed it even when giving the team a once over with her power right there.
 
If merely scanning, than you are still leaving the original souls hanging and merely making due with perfect copies.
If you are left to die, but a perfect copy of you is made and given a life of luxury, is that right or even reasonable?
Should a perfect duplicate count for all purposes as the original?
The answers and logic for these questions can be intuitively mapped to your proposed concept as it stands.

One may attempt to get around these issues by killing or destroying originals, but that raises new dilemmas.
Is it right to end a life to enable another to fill its role or create a sense of continuity in which a desired result is emulated?
Does appearance and practical effect take precedence over history and real personal continuity for the individual?
That's why I listed 'atman' there. Lord of Light has reincarnation tech. The scan is pretty much capturing/storing the soul. It's not collecting information. The patterns scanned is your soul. It's similar to how due to soul equivancy Shardspace with its mind-copies/shadow-souls is the parahuman afterlife.

When Joe rolled Divine Machines in 49 Game Time, he goes over how it's not someone with a copy of your memory, but actually you transferred to a new body. While it's memories rather than the idea of the original soul vs copy soul in this case, when examined in the context of the story and the main use of Lord of Light tech, I think it's safe to assume that it's the same original soul, not a copy. If Joe is to transfer his soul to a new body, it'd not be making a copy soul while leaving the original soul to move on elsewhere.

The complete analysis of the physical energy patterns of a person gave a more complete map of their 'self' than any level of brain scan that I was capable of. Really any level of brain scan anybody could be capable of. This was comprehension of the union of body and mind that actually made a person who they were. Not a collection of information, but their actual self on a level that I could never replicate. I had technology advanced enough that I could scan someone's brain, copy their memories, and implant them in a new body, but it wouldn't be them. This technology? It could transfer a person's pattern into a new body and it wouldn't be a new body with their memories, it would be them in a new body.

Really, there was no getting around it. Functionally, it was a scientific map of the soul. The equivalence wasn't exact, but I had enough experience dealing with souls to know what I was looking at. Okay, I can add that to the list of phrases I never considered possible. I'm going to count that as a quarter just for good measure. The insanity of the concept aside, that was the secret of this technology. It was limited on higher physics and somehow laughably deficient in computer science, but had managed to crack the theoretical basis for the soul.
 
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It's interesting that Accord was able to figure out the Apeiron and Garment connection as if it was the simplest thing in the world, but Lisa missed it even when giving the team a once over with her power right there.

I mean... They have different powers? Not too weird they get different analyses out.

Also, Lisa has had her power on a tight leash. She's been trying to save it for things she thinks are vital. Investigating some clothes case 53 is probably not what she's spending her juice on.
 
Hey, I just had a sudden idea:

As Tybalt may raise those who died on the battlefield, does that include capes who died in combat, specifically Hero? Because that would have some quite unpleasant consequences.

Lord kinda ruled that Souls do exist in Worm, the only known afterlife is Shardspace.

PJO is while Tybalt as Ares son with a handmaiden of Bast can command the souls of warriors I am not sure if he has actual authority over the afterlife which means that Tybalt may not necessarily be able to access Shardspace to get said Souls unless Joe/Fleet find said Shard containing Hero's "Soul" and drag it away from said Shard.
 
[Sorry, did you guys expect only one? It's two.

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♦ Topic: why the ship?
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
chris Hanson
(Original Poster)
Posted On Mar 5th 2011:
Well... Today we got our first real glips at the body of the person behind the mask of Apeiron.

And, He, Is, Stacked.

Like seriously the guy puts professional bodybuilders to shame, And while we can't be totally sure about the legitimacy of his muscle we are at least able to make an educated guess on his age. I personally put my estimation in the range of 25-30 from his body(purely looks), actions, and maturity. While I would put the undersides at 17-20.

We know that Apeiron values Khepris over the rest of the Undersiders (see Uber/Leet storage-yard stream) and just from the quality of her gear and clearly cares for her.
This suggests a personal relationship beyond merc/villain and most likely know each other in their civilian lives. and it's obviously more than just acquaintance or a friend of a friend. But the age gap is rather wide and not something that can be ignored.

So my question is, why are we shipping Him with Khepris? I know that we PHO people™ love to speculate and ship our favorite capes, But why are people shipping a clear adult with somebody who might not even be of legal age or at least only barely? Personally, I find other forms of relationship speculation more favorable(and realistic) than this ship, which is ruining the uninitiated's view on PHO relationship speculation. People are all for shipping Hero and Alexandria as Apeiron's parents, but would rather ship Khepris and Apeiron over Father/daughter, brother/sister, or even a cool uncle.

What gives?

Let the speculation begin!!!

I myself like the idea of Apeiron watching his Daughter/Niece/little sister, go out as a cape so he kitted out her whole little team with all the lethal goodies out of concern.
and I find it super cute.


Edit: also forgot to mention this before but there will be NO speculation on the identities of capes.
you will receive a thread ban for it.

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►Moored out to sea
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Because we're PHO, meaning the vast majority of what we do is shipping (and arguing about who would beat the shit out of who).​
►MoodKindred!
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Given that Apeiron appears to be around 30 at the oldest, and Khepri is a teen, I doubt that they have a father/daughter relationship, as Apeiron is too young to be her father. He is thus probably an older brother/uncle/cousin, if they are related at all. He could just be a mentor figure, rather than a relative.​
►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
The Problem is the shippers who have gained the most attention is the Khepeiron shippers, mostly due to all the infractions/bans. Plenty of people dont actually follow the gross ship. The Dadpeiron ship doesnt make sense if the ape of iron is anywhere near his theorized age. It'd mean he had a daughter when he was 17~19, the uncle theory I can buy more since (no offense to Apeiron) he just doesnt give off Paternal vibes when he went to go help Khepri. Also the Hero×Alexandria shippers were just kinda...invading the Apeiron theory threads when they posted that theory. Like I get liking a certain ship but they tend to do that with alot of tinkers with certain brute ratings.​
►Sothoth
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ChoppyWaters inb4 they invade this thread too along with the die-hard Khepeiron shippers shouting to the world "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR BELIEF"​
Still, I like the idea that Khepri views Apeiron like an older relative. Or vice versa. The bad thing is that there are sick fucks who take that idea and push it to the extreme end.​
►MoodKindred!
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Khepeiron shippers: The Dadpeiron Hypothesis is not incompatible with our theology.​
►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
ugh don't remind me about the absurdity of their weird shit. Honestly their worst crime was that one guy who essentially went "they're criminals of course they'd do that" doesnt mean it is ok to post that crap on PHO​
►Jackanape
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
A friend of mine in the PRT told me that there were rumors that in the rules of engagement for Apeiron they're to be very hands off and I quote "Khepri and the Undersiders"​
►ItsAMe (Verified Plumber)​
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@Jackanape That's 'Lady Khperi'. Get it right before the lass decides to up the local spider population.​
And while I avoid shipping in general, the 'Dadperion' angle made me laugh. Not even because of bug-girl, but to any daughters he might have, now or in the future. Can you imagine the Apeiron version of the 'Dad greets his daughter's potential boyfriend with readied shotgun' trope?​
►WhateverItIsIDidntDoIt (Verified Skeptic)​
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ ItsAMe Who the hell is going to have the balls to confidently stare into the face of the guy that defeated Lung (when he was ramped up past the point where he fought off Leviathan in Kyushu) and say that they want to date his daughter without pissing themselves? 🙀​
That's assuming that they didn't piss themselves when in the presence of Brockton Bay's literal biblical plague bringer. 😵​
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►ALoneMadRhino
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ItsAMe I'd ask who the mom would be, but I don't want this thread to delve to deep into that line of shipping just yet.​
►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I am now going to speculate who Kephri's hypothetical mother would be if the Dadperion thing is true out of spite.​
...​
What the heck combines with Super Tinker to make a walking plague?​
►FarosFaros
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@OhNoMyUsername​
Boredom a little time and a test-tube.​
Oh, you were talking about Lady Khepri. Same answer.​
►SlashQueen
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I find Khepeiron ship gross. Like, don't do that to kids guys!​
Have you guys seen how Leet looked at Apeiron at 3:15?​
Apeiron/Leet/Uber OTT FTW! Leepeiron? Uberiron? What are rules for making a OTP into OTT?​
►SilkenSilence
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Oh come on guys, how is everyone missing the obvious answer? The crazy fashionable tinker and the fashion cape *have* to be dating. Garpeiron is the only conclusion.​
►ItsAMe (Verified Plumber)​
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ SilkenSilence It would explain the fashionable Cape of Doom™ from the Uber and Leet fight.​
►VelvetCocoa
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
WAIT, what if the Cape of Doom™ WAS Garment!? And look at his gloves, aren't they unusually always clean? Apeiron and Garment are together physically AND spiritually!​
And I vote for Apeiron and Garment being the hypothetical parents. The dramatics and sheer munchkinnery from the father, and the absolute control over bugs from the mother.​
►TheBoltingNitwit
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Fellers, we are skippin over the most important part - Apeiron's true form, the case53 thingy that he became when his medical tech got borked in the fight. I don't think Case 53s have human biology anymore, so if Infini-tinky is a Case-53, then he might have simply tinkered himself into a form he felt comfy as, he and Capri might just be friends or she could be the one that found him when he was new to Earth Bet, or maybe she was just his first customer, or hell, maybe she uses her bugs to grab materials for his craft, which is why no one can locate Monkey Steel's supply chain for all those wonderful toys, and also neatly explains why he was so determined to keep her safe - if she gathers stuff for him to use, he'd want her alive and grateful to him!​
►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
*gasp*​
A logical argument for why a ship might not be valid? In my shipping thread?! The nerve of some people!​
Although your idea of Kephri being the one to find him if he was a case 53 has awesome potential for somebody writing a Capefic. Also, now I want to see somebody draw Kephri wearing capris.​
Sadly, I am neither an artist, nor a writer.​
►ToaterToastToast
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
You all are wrong! Obviously the Ape of Iron (or is he a dino now? Dineiron?) is making himself a Real Girltm, did you seriously not see that clearly girl robot that picked him up after dissapearing Lung!? Seriously! Why would he add high heels to the design otherwise? Balance?​
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►ShinySlimeSnaffler
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ToasterToastToast​
This is a man who breaks the laws of physics to give himself a fucking intro cinematic, programs all his gear to produce epic guitar riffs on command, and did a goddamn anime stance on a lamppost for no discernable reason - at this point, I'm half expecting the heel-suit to be piloted by a cyborg ninja maid. One reason I think the Case 53 theory got so popular is because no sane human raised on Earth Bet would ever try that hard to make such cringy shit, but Apeiron goes so hard on the cringe it smashes out the other side and becomes awesome, purely because no one told him it was cringy or he couldn't do it.​
►NoLimits
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
That or they told him he couldn't and he replied with, "Hold my beer."​
►ToaterToastToast
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Is only cringy when isn't Apeiron. I mean, look at that shield claw thing, pretty sure he could make those Hot Topic robots from Near look cool. And sexier.​
EDIT: Welp, according to the guys in the Apeiron tech thread (here), those high heels could actually be some kind of gravity based balancing device, something about how it runs clued someone in (recording and analisys here). Doesn't mean I'm wrong though!​
►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Guys guys guys, we're getting a bit off topic here. Staying away from the mainstream Draperion and Kepherion (Kephrion? I can never remember how to spell it), what other people can we ship our friendly neighborhood Ape of Iron with?​
Personally, I feel like he'd get on well with Mouse Protector. They're both dedicated to their shtick to a crazy degree, even if they're completely different. I feel like an interaction between 'Ow the edge' and 'Kraft wishes it was this cheesy' would be glorious.​
►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
First it's Dadpeiron, because Apeiron (aka ape iron) is a greek word, second the only Crack i ship is ChromaticSteel, aka Legend×Apeiron, because God damn is that the best ship name I've ever heard. Also who doesnt love 2 jacked dudes being fucking adorable.​
►2ndAmendment
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I prefer Miss Militia X Apeiron. Mr "I have all the tech" and Ms "I have all the guns." That's what synergy means, right?​
►grommetdrinkstea
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I'm thinking An Iron Pair (Apeiron×Armsmaster) myself, because their chiseled jaws are just :mwah:​
Two Iron Pairs (Apeiron×Armsmaster×Chevalier×Dragon) just has some real power suit vibe if ya get me ya know?​
►SilkenSilence
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
While I *do* support Chevy x Armsy, and am a fan of healthy PolyAm, I gotta stick to my guns on Garpeiron.​
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I'll see you the OT4 and raise you an OT5.​
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Thanks, I hate it.

I do wonder how the Team will fit into shipping dynamics, and what weird combinations people will inevitably come up with. Not even just within the team, but with other Capes.
 
It's interesting that Accord was able to figure out the Apeiron and Garment connection as if it was the simplest thing in the world, but Lisa missed it even when giving the team a once over with her power right there.

I think it's because she concentrate in Joe instead of his equipment, if she tried to analize his gloves she would likely realize it's actually Garment. Maybe.

EDIT:

Thanks, I hate it. I do wonder how the Team will fit into shipping dynamics, and what weird combinations people will inevitably come up with. Not even just within the team, but with other Capes.
PHO: Apeiron looked upon his fellow 53 and said: "I shall make you waifu/husbando/daughteru". And so it was.....
 
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You know it occurs to me that Joe could probably make miniature/collapsible atoms at this point, probably by hand by virtue of either hammering matter really hard or by making a nuclear-force neutralizing anvil or something, and I'm pretty sure Matrix would want some of those. Like screw this nanoscale bullshit let's get into femto- and pico-scale technology.

I had written about this before, but Joe is already way past nanotech. Nanotech refers specifically to technology working at 10^-9 power, and individual atomic manipulation bypasses that, so even before this chapter calling something nanotech was just a convenience for the sake of the viewer since most people aren't familiar with scales below the nano prefix. With Joe's current miniaturization perks, he is currently working in the 10^-18 range at minimum and I suspect it might be even lower. So in summary he has bypassed pico tech and is ready to work with atto tech. I'm not sure how many miniaturization perks are left, but by endgame I suspect Joe will be able to work at sub-planck scale levels, due to breaking physics.
 
Lord kinda ruled that Souls do exist in Worm, the only known afterlife is Shardspace.

PJO is while Tybalt as Ares son with a handmaiden of Bast can command the souls of warriors I am not sure if he has actual authority over the afterlife which means that Tybalt may not necessarily be able to access Shardspace to get said Souls unless Joe/Fleet find said Shard containing Hero's "Soul" and drag it away from said Shard.
I've found this WOG of Lord, and if I understand everything correctly, he can in fact resurrect Parahumans, because Shardspace counts as an afterlife. However, the summoned beings are more constructs than the actual person brought to life.
 
[Sorry, did you guys expect only one? It's two.

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♦ Topic: why the ship?
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
chris Hanson
(Original Poster)
Posted On Mar 5th 2011:
Well... Today we got our first real glips at the body of the person behind the mask of Apeiron.

And, He, Is, Stacked.

Like seriously the guy puts professional bodybuilders to shame, And while we can't be totally sure about the legitimacy of his muscle we are at least able to make an educated guess on his age. I personally put my estimation in the range of 25-30 from his body(purely looks), actions, and maturity. While I would put the undersides at 17-20.

We know that Apeiron values Khepris over the rest of the Undersiders (see Uber/Leet storage-yard stream) and just from the quality of her gear and clearly cares for her.
This suggests a personal relationship beyond merc/villain and most likely know each other in their civilian lives. and it's obviously more than just acquaintance or a friend of a friend. But the age gap is rather wide and not something that can be ignored.

So my question is, why are we shipping Him with Khepris? I know that we PHO people™ love to speculate and ship our favorite capes, But why are people shipping a clear adult with somebody who might not even be of legal age or at least only barely? Personally, I find other forms of relationship speculation more favorable(and realistic) than this ship, which is ruining the uninitiated's view on PHO relationship speculation. People are all for shipping Hero and Alexandria as Apeiron's parents, but would rather ship Khepris and Apeiron over Father/daughter, brother/sister, or even a cool uncle.

What gives?

Let the speculation begin!!!

I myself like the idea of Apeiron watching his Daughter/Niece/little sister, go out as a cape so he kitted out her whole little team with all the lethal goodies out of concern.
and I find it super cute.


Edit: also forgot to mention this before but there will be NO speculation on the identities of capes.
you will receive a thread ban for it.

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►Moored out to sea
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Because we're PHO, meaning the vast majority of what we do is shipping (and arguing about who would beat the shit out of who).​
►MoodKindred!
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Given that Apeiron appears to be around 30 at the oldest, and Khepri is a teen, I doubt that they have a father/daughter relationship, as Apeiron is too young to be her father. He is thus probably an older brother/uncle/cousin, if they are related at all. He could just be a mentor figure, rather than a relative.​
►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
The Problem is the shippers who have gained the most attention is the Khepeiron shippers, mostly due to all the infractions/bans. Plenty of people dont actually follow the gross ship. The Dadpeiron ship doesnt make sense if the ape of iron is anywhere near his theorized age. It'd mean he had a daughter when he was 17~19, the uncle theory I can buy more since (no offense to Apeiron) he just doesnt give off Paternal vibes when he went to go help Khepri. Also the Hero×Alexandria shippers were just kinda...invading the Apeiron theory threads when they posted that theory. Like I get liking a certain ship but they tend to do that with alot of tinkers with certain brute ratings.​
►Sothoth
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ChoppyWaters inb4 they invade this thread too along with the die-hard Khepeiron shippers shouting to the world "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR BELIEF"​
Still, I like the idea that Khepri views Apeiron like an older relative. Or vice versa. The bad thing is that there are sick fucks who take that idea and push it to the extreme end.​
►MoodKindred!
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Khepeiron shippers: The Dadpeiron Hypothesis is not incompatible with our theology.​
►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
ugh don't remind me about the absurdity of their weird shit. Honestly their worst crime was that one guy who essentially went "they're criminals of course they'd do that" doesnt mean it is ok to post that crap on PHO​
►Jackanape
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
A friend of mine in the PRT told me that there were rumors that in the rules of engagement for Apeiron they're to be very hands off and I quote "Khepri and the Undersiders"​
►ItsAMe (Verified Plumber)​
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@Jackanape That's 'Lady Khperi'. Get it right before the lass decides to up the local spider population.​
And while I avoid shipping in general, the 'Dadperion' angle made me laugh. Not even because of bug-girl, but to any daughters he might have, now or in the future. Can you imagine the Apeiron version of the 'Dad greets his daughter's potential boyfriend with readied shotgun' trope?​
►WhateverItIsIDidntDoIt (Verified Skeptic)​
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ ItsAMe Who the hell is going to have the balls to confidently stare into the face of the guy that defeated Lung (when he was ramped up past the point where he fought off Leviathan in Kyushu) and say that they want to date his daughter without pissing themselves? 🙀​
That's assuming that they didn't piss themselves when in the presence of Brockton Bay's literal biblical plague bringer. 😵​
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►ALoneMadRhino
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ItsAMe I'd ask who the mom would be, but I don't want this thread to delve to deep into that line of shipping just yet.​
►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I am now going to speculate who Kephri's hypothetical mother would be if the Dadperion thing is true out of spite.​
...​
What the heck combines with Super Tinker to make a walking plague?​
►FarosFaros
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@OhNoMyUsername​
Boredom a little time and a test-tube.​
Oh, you were talking about Lady Khepri. Same answer.​
►SlashQueen
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I find Khepeiron ship gross. Like, don't do that to kids guys!​
Have you guys seen how Leet looked at Apeiron at 3:15?​
Apeiron/Leet/Uber OTT FTW! Leepeiron? Uberiron? What are rules for making a OTP into OTT?​
►SilkenSilence
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Oh come on guys, how is everyone missing the obvious answer? The crazy fashionable tinker and the fashion cape *have* to be dating. Garpeiron is the only conclusion.​
►ItsAMe (Verified Plumber)​
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ SilkenSilence It would explain the fashionable Cape of Doom™ from the Uber and Leet fight.​
►VelvetCocoa
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
WAIT, what if the Cape of Doom™ WAS Garment!? And look at his gloves, aren't they unusually always clean? Apeiron and Garment are together physically AND spiritually!​
And I vote for Apeiron and Garment being the hypothetical parents. The dramatics and sheer munchkinnery from the father, and the absolute control over bugs from the mother.​
►TheBoltingNitwit
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Fellers, we are skippin over the most important part - Apeiron's true form, the case53 thingy that he became when his medical tech got borked in the fight. I don't think Case 53s have human biology anymore, so if Infini-tinky is a Case-53, then he might have simply tinkered himself into a form he felt comfy as, he and Capri might just be friends or she could be the one that found him when he was new to Earth Bet, or maybe she was just his first customer, or hell, maybe she uses her bugs to grab materials for his craft, which is why no one can locate Monkey Steel's supply chain for all those wonderful toys, and also neatly explains why he was so determined to keep her safe - if she gathers stuff for him to use, he'd want her alive and grateful to him!​
►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
*gasp*​
A logical argument for why a ship might not be valid? In my shipping thread?! The nerve of some people!​
Although your idea of Kephri being the one to find him if he was a case 53 has awesome potential for somebody writing a Capefic. Also, now I want to see somebody draw Kephri wearing capris.​
Sadly, I am neither an artist, nor a writer.​
►ToaterToastToast
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
You all are wrong! Obviously the Ape of Iron (or is he a dino now? Dineiron?) is making himself a Real Girltm, did you seriously not see that clearly girl robot that picked him up after dissapearing Lung!? Seriously! Why would he add high heels to the design otherwise? Balance?​
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►ShinySlimeSnaffler
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
@ToasterToastToast​
This is a man who breaks the laws of physics to give himself a fucking intro cinematic, programs all his gear to produce epic guitar riffs on command, and did a goddamn anime stance on a lamppost for no discernable reason - at this point, I'm half expecting the heel-suit to be piloted by a cyborg ninja maid. One reason I think the Case 53 theory got so popular is because no sane human raised on Earth Bet would ever try that hard to make such cringy shit, but Apeiron goes so hard on the cringe it smashes out the other side and becomes awesome, purely because no one told him it was cringy or he couldn't do it.​
►NoLimits
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
That or they told him he couldn't and he replied with, "Hold my beer."​
►ToaterToastToast
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Is only cringy when isn't Apeiron. I mean, look at that shield claw thing, pretty sure he could make those Hot Topic robots from Near look cool. And sexier.​
EDIT: Welp, according to the guys in the Apeiron tech thread (here), those high heels could actually be some kind of gravity based balancing device, something about how it runs clued someone in (recording and analisys here). Doesn't mean I'm wrong though!​
►OhNoMyUsername
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
Guys guys guys, we're getting a bit off topic here. Staying away from the mainstream Draperion and Kepherion (Kephrion? I can never remember how to spell it), what other people can we ship our friendly neighborhood Ape of Iron with?​
Personally, I feel like he'd get on well with Mouse Protector. They're both dedicated to their shtick to a crazy degree, even if they're completely different. I feel like an interaction between 'Ow the edge' and 'Kraft wishes it was this cheesy' would be glorious.​
►ChoppyWaters
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
First it's Dadpeiron, because Apeiron (aka ape iron) is a greek word, second the only Crack i ship is ChromaticSteel, aka Legend×Apeiron, because God damn is that the best ship name I've ever heard. Also who doesnt love 2 jacked dudes being fucking adorable.​
►2ndAmendment
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I prefer Miss Militia X Apeiron. Mr "I have all the tech" and Ms "I have all the guns." That's what synergy means, right?​
►grommetdrinkstea
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
I'm thinking An Iron Pair (Apeiron×Armsmaster) myself, because their chiseled jaws are just :mwah:​
Two Iron Pairs (Apeiron×Armsmaster×Chevalier×Dragon) just has some real power suit vibe if ya get me ya know?​
►SilkenSilence
Replied On Mar 5th 2011:​
While I *do* support Chevy x Armsy, and am a fan of healthy PolyAm, I gotta stick to my guns on Garpeiron.​
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I'll see you the OT4 and raise you an OT5.​
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The date is March 5. Apeiron hasn't debuted then, nor has the Plot started.
 
The date is March 5. Apeiron hasn't debuted then, nor has the Plot started.
Eh, the date here doesn't matter much since it's a joke piece. Cut me some slack, I just copy pasted the whole thing from the Blacksmithery thread since the original claimant didn't post it. Usually they're the ones who would handle the editing process and fact checking in the Interlude Wizard.
 
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