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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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I imagine when Joe shows up at the meeting, one of the villains (probably Skidmark) tries to throw a piece of trash at him, and he just turns it into some type of jewelry that gives powers, blowing all their minds.
 
Ya know, with countercraft, E88's Damsel bid has died before its even begun; WoG's implied that the data provided by the mystic forge can allow one to duplicate STING, DoD's anhillation effect might be more complex but it sure as hell doesn't have the conceptual weight of Sting, the Entity's primary Anti-Entity weapon...
 
Pettrip said:


Hi Everyone and @LordRoustabout

Here is a new fanart, my take on the Glory Girl and March's scene.
I added a bunch of details more than the initial draft, this made it harder to color and took more time to finish.

@LordRoustabout - hoping your ok, take your time

I would like to thank @deinspanjer for requesting this. I learned and experimented
a lot on this piece, this cemented my drawing process for my art.
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Stumbled upon this art: Very nice. Might commission you one day
 
Still concerned about the PRT's reaction to the Dust going away. Like unless they conclude that the "energized" particles are starting to break down (explaining the residual effects) or that Apeiron just extracted the Dust without doing anything with the M particles, they're on a path to figuring out the specifics of his "tech retrieval tech".
 
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The Shallow said:
Still concerned about the PRT's reaction to the Dust going away. Like unless they conclude that the "energized" particles are starting to break down (explaining the residual effects) or that Apeiron just extracted the Dust without doing anything with the M particles, they're on a path to figuring out the specifics of his "tech retrieval tech".
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Realistically speaking, what are they going to do about it, though?

It's a fiat-backed ability, and even if they figure out that his tech flat-out automagically repairs itself on a regular basis, that doesn't suggest any obvious useful tactical response. And that's not to mention that Joe has nigh instantaneous projection magic and build times on top of his truly instantaneous NP, both of which he can use to instantly repair or replace a disgusting amount of his arsenal in combat time.

The automatic repair timer can't even scare them worse than the global Stranger effect did.
 
Subrosian_Smithy said:
Realistically speaking, what are they going to do about it, though?

It's a fiat-backed ability, and even if they figure out that his tech flat-out automagically repairs itself on a regular basis, that doesn't suggest any obvious useful tactical response. And that's not to mention that Joe has nigh instantaneous projection magic and build times on top of his truly instantaneous NP, both of which he can use to instantly repair or replace a disgusting amount of his arsenal in combat time.

The automatic repair timer can't even scare them worse than the global Stranger effect did.
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That is a good point, Information is power, but even if they knew the specifics of all his powers, he's still stronger than all of them.
 
The Shallow said:
That is a good point, Information is power, but even if they knew the specifics of all his powers, he's still stronger than all of them.
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I think it is more accurate to say 'Information is power, when you can do something with it.' And as far as the 48 hour goes....hrm...nope. Can't think of anything they could do with that kind of information. Except make all the TInkers jealous.
 
Flufferton said:
I think it is more accurate to say 'Information is power, when you can do something with it.' And as far as the 48 hour goes....hrm...nope. Can't think of anything they could do with that kind of information. Except make all the TInkers jealous.
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I agree, cuz like yeah my point is that information would give them no ability to really beat him, because he has Countercraft on top of Mythic Forge.
 
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It would change how people deal with his tech, though. Approving destructive examination easier, making it more of a priority to get as much info as they can before it disappears... all of that. How useful those protocols would actually be, I don't know, but they would probably exist.
 
Akira D. said:
It would change how people deal with his tech, though. Approving destructive examination easier, making it more of a priority to get as much info as they can before it disappears... all of that. How useful those protocols would actually be, I don't know, but they would probably exist.
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Would they go for that? Considering what they now think that they know about the aftermath of that very same act.....
 
NameOrdane said:
Don't worry. Just found a 300k fic to tide me over for 3-4 days.
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Slpngfx said:
Come on now, that sounds like a recommendation!
Please... I have to fill the Celestial void.
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NameOrdane said:
Can't, it's over on QQ so let's not discuss that.
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Well now, there's no reason you can't give a name and author for us to search for ourselves. Knowing it's on the NSFW side of QQ just makes me more interested.
The Shallow said:
Still concerned about the PRT's reaction to the Dust going away. Like unless they conclude that the "energized" particles are starting to break down (explaining the residual effects) or that Apeiron just extracted the Dust without doing anything with the M particles, they're on a path to figuring out the specifics of his "tech retrieval tech".
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I mean, it's not nothing they didn't already know from near the start of the story with the equip they had from him that disappeared from Armsmaster's lab.

A bit hilarious how their theories are turning up to be correct now. Yes, Aperion IS a shaker with the ability to PROJECT and create items out of nothing. A Cheating Tinker. And now in the latest Armsmaster Interlude we get another theories of his proven, Apeiron is for sure a power tinker. Yep no other possible answer.
Nullifeye said:
Um, where may I find this discord
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Huh, I forgot how I found it myself. Thought it was on the first post, but maybe it's a info post or a signature somewhere. Either way here is an invite link. (It's in LordR's Signature)
 
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Now, how would the Fate system actually categorise Apeiron's abilities, ranking wise? The power just gives E, but in combination with everything else? Also, what rank would the "C-Rank" Noble Fantasm get when seamlessly combined with what accounts to a crew working for 36 hours crammed into a single second? Though, those very well might not stack. Everything else though? I feel as if Fate natives would not assign a C to it
 
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Red_Faux said:
Now, how would the Fate system actually categorise Apeiron's abilities, ranking wise? The power just gives E, but in combination with everything else? Also, what rank would the "C-Rank" Noble Fantasm get when seamlessly combined with what accounts to a crew working for 36 hours crammed into a single second? Though, those very well might not stack. Everything else though? I feel as if Fate natives would not assign a C to it
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The Noble Phantasm is C-rank. How well the wielder uses it is another matter; one of the real life stories about Miyamoto Musashi is how he used the wooden oar from a boat to defeat Sasaki Kojirou (i.e. the basis for Assassin from Fate/Stay Night), while a complete novice swinging around an EX-rank sword is more danger to themselves and their environment than they are to their opponent. Works of Timeless Eternity: Mystic Forge can become any crafting tool (but only crafting tools; Apeiron can't use it as a weapon) and pause time to allow for crafting (but only crafting; Apeiron can't use it to queue up attacks or dodge out of the way, or any other time-stop tricks) — it's the limitations on how he can use it that makes it as low as C-rank, in the same way that Simple Scientific Solutions is limited to "household tasks". Similarly, his Territory Creation ability is effectively just an extension of the adage "never attack a Tinker in their Workshop" — it makes him slightly more effective in there than anywhere else.

The Celestial Forge itself, along with the perks he gets from it, probably counts as an EX-rank Noble Phantasm — both due to the constant growth it goes through, and due to the fact that many of them they stack multiplicatively, rather than linearly.
 
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The Noble Phantasm is C-rank. How well the wielder uses it is another matter; one of the real life stories about Miyamoto Musashi is how he used the wooden oar from a boat to defeat Sasaki Kojirou (i.e. the basis for Assassin from Fate/Stay Night), while a complete novice swinging around an EX-rank sword is more danger to themselves and their environment than they are to their opponent. Works of Timeless Eternity: Mystic Forge can become any crafting tool (but only crafting tools; Apeiron can't use it as a weapon) and pause time to allow for crafting (but only crafting; Apeiron can't use it to queue up attacks or dodge out of the way, or any other time-stop tricks) — it's the limitations on how he can use it that makes it as low as C-rank, in the same way that Simple Scientific Solutions is limited to "household tasks". Similarly, his Territory Creation ability is effectively just an extension of the adage "never attack a Tinker in their Workshop" — it makes him slightly more effective in there than anywhere else.
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It's like that Rick&Morty bit, "Powers and Weaknesses: Ability to do anything, but only whenever I want..." except it legitimately worked as an argument.
 
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