Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

I have some bad news regarding the next update. Unfortunately, I'm going to need to delay the next chapter. I have a hectic week coming up and will not be able to get the chapter completed on time. I had hoped to avoid this, but considering the complexity of the next chapter I don't want to put out something unpolished or half finished. It should only be a one-week delay and will also allow me to get the chapter up to a decent length.

Sorry for the inconvenience,
Roust
 
Conversations are hard when they're complex, and given this is going to involve a character reflecting on themself and discussing matters with another, with that other being a trained psychologist, it's understandable that it's a big one you want to get right.
 
Bro. Do what you need to do man. We are all here to cheer you on. Take a break when needed. Do some private shit. You ain't obligated to drop 10k chapters every fucking week man.
 
Unfortunately, I'm going to need to delay the next chapter.
We are your followers and your fans. We love your work.

We would rather you produce material at a rate you are comfortable at and at a quality you agree with.

True, all of us desire more sooner faster yadda yadda yadda, as our Culture demands.

But you should know that we appreciate your work and would rather you be happy with your own process than pressured by any perceived 'owing' to the audience.
 
No! Don't throttle the firehose!

Without massive updates every damn day, how are we going to survive?

*gasp* Are we going to have to deal with it with short 10k chapters? The horror!

Or maybe I will just re-read past preambles/addendums/interludes for 50th time, and give immature giggles over how chapter 54 Overtime (69th chapter in total) should have been called Hard Time instead of chapter 53 :V
 
This sort of obstruction to posting is despicable!
I DEMAND that you write live into a Google Doc shared with us so we can read as you type! :p
(Please don't take that seriously)
 
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I have some bad news regarding the next update. Unfortunately, I'm going to need to delay the next chapter. I have a hectic week coming up and will not be able to get the chapter completed on time. I had hoped to avoid this, but considering the complexity of the next chapter I don't want to put out something unpolished or half finished. It should only be a one-week delay and will also allow me to get the chapter up to a decent length.
LOL no problem man take your time and deal with things as you need to you're doing Great so far an extra week or two wont kill us especially since we're not paying you for this

We are your followers and your fans. We love your work.

We would rather you produce material at a rate you are comfortable at and at a quality you agree with.

True, all of us desire more sooner faster yadda yadda yadda, as our Culture demands.

But you should know that we appreciate your work and would rather you be happy with your own process than pressured by any perceived 'owing' to the audience.
Yea this guy said it perfectly
 
I know it might have been asked but do we know why clones don't drink cloning potions?
Even without asking anything of Lord or anyone else who might have been present for such a ruling, and think the answer "it wouldn't work" is present enough in the text.

It's not some complex process we can assume Joe wouldn't have thought of, so the only logical conclusion is that he did think of it and then determined it wouldn't work.
 
I know it might have been asked but do we know why clones don't drink cloning potions?
my best watsonian guesses would be either A) the potions were designed intentionally to not be capable of recursive exponential growth, B) the clones created by the potions are either missing a crucial element of the necessary physical/metaphysical makeup to produce clones Or have an altered physical/metaphysical makeup that bars them from producing clones, or C) the forge's fiat simply decided that it wouldn't work because clones can't clone themselves in the source material / it would go against the tone of the source material to be able to munchkin the clone potion like that. or some mix of all of those options.

the Doylist answer is "because that's OP and would disrupt the story LR wants to tell" - LR has said before that there would be strong limits to the amount of duplicates the potion could produce, even with perks that boosted the effects of the Banjo Kazooie potions. Because having an entire fleet of Apeirons constantly at the ready would really throw off the story in a way that massively exceeds what even the strongest perks in the forge would do.
 
my best watsonian guesses would be either A) the potions were designed intentionally to not be capable of recursive exponential growth, B) the clones created by the potions are either missing a crucial element of the necessary physical/metaphysical makeup to produce clones Or have an altered physical/metaphysical makeup that bars them from producing clones, or C) the forge's fiat simply decided that it wouldn't work because clones can't clone themselves in the source material / it would go against the tone of the source material to be able to munchkin the clone potion like that. or some mix of all of those options.

the Doylist answer is "because that's OP and would disrupt the story LR wants to tell" - LR has said before that there would be strong limits to the amount of duplicates the potion could produce, even with perks that boosted the effects of the Banjo Kazooie potions. Because having an entire fleet of Apeirons constantly at the ready would really throw off the story in a way that massively exceeds what even the strongest perks in the forge would do.
There is also a perk that allows on to take multiple potions and that will allow the create of up two 8 duplicates
 
I know it might have been asked but do we know why clones don't drink cloning potions?
People seems to forget it, and I can't really blame them, because Joe got that perk so long ago:
Cloning potion, alongsode with Invisibility potion and Invincibility potion, are three potions from Kazooie Alchemy perk. And main downside of these potions is that one can't use more than one potion at a time.
So, as long as dupli-Joes exists, nor Joe, nor his duplicates can't use Invisibility, Invincibility or Cloning potion (from that perk, that is).

P.S. Just reminder - potions from that perk works only on Joe by fiat, he can't make dupli-Aishas, for example.
 
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P.S. Just reminder - potions from that perk works only on Joe by fiat, he can't make dupli-Aishas, for example.
I wonder if that could be sidestepped by extracting the magical effect with the crucible. It only mentions the potions being restricted to being able to be used by you to induce the effects.
 
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I wonder if that could be sidestepped by extracting the magical effect with the crucible. It only mentions the potions being restricted to being able to be used by you to induce the effects.

Hmm, imo it wouldn't work, the way I see it the pots aren't really magic but more reproduceable fiat backed items (if I got it right) that are composed of a bunch of really hazardous chems and work of Joe because of, well, the fiat backed perk effect.
 
Hmm, imo it wouldn't work, the way I see it the pots aren't really magic but more reproduceable fiat backed items (if I got it right) that are composed of a bunch of really hazardous chems and work of Joe because of, well, the fiat backed perk effect.
I'm pretty sure they are explicitly called magical.
Unfortunately I could only make three types of potions. Their effects would last a few minutes at most and mixing them was a horrible idea. Also the potions would only affect me, there was an element of the ability that made them chemical messes for anyone else who tried to drink them.
Alchemy (Banjo-Kazooie) 100:

You are incredibly capable at mixing together mundane ingredients to create effects that can only be described as magical. For a short time these potions can create temporary copies of you, turn you invisible, or give you shielding.
Relevant quotes.
 
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Here is a old word of god

So a person that made Journey to the West jump gave their interpretation of the perk:
"I think the original idea was that you could take, say, Sun Wukong's staff and break it down into "size changing", "weight manipulation", and "only usable by chosen wielder". Then you could take those and add them to existing or new crafts to be able to fuck about with enchantments more easily. And if you added multiple of the same enchantment you could concentrate it down to result in something more powerful"

I quite like the idea of being able to concentrate same enchantments, as that is definitely something that would make the perk worth it's 500 cp cost and definitely makes sense considering it's a crucible, instead of just taking stuff apart. But what do you think? Does this clash with anything major?:



The scrapping and material recovery aspect of the crucible is pretty much irrelevant to Joe at this point, so the removal of magic and enchantments is the major thing. Being able to transfer, compound, or stack enchantments is the part of the item that makes it worth 500 points. In some ways its even better than Self-Made shopkeeper since it can transfer enchantments freely rather than just between equivalent objects (swords to swords, for example). There's also the possibility of removing magic from potions for later use which could get particularly interesting with Banjo-Kazooie potions. Even just removing the magic from a healing potion and putting it into another item could have interesting applications. There's also the possibility of using extracted magic or enchantments directly rather than adding them to new items. It's the kind of item that has a lot of potential and creative applications, particularly when you add as many magic options as Joe has access too.
So yes the crucible will work on Banjo-Kazooie Potions.
 
I know it might have been asked but do we know why clones don't drink cloning potions?
BK potions cause horrible mutations if you're under the effect of more than one at a time. It's actually possible Joe is now at the point of fixing that but he hasn't reexamined it.

It's also worth noting that is not clear if the clone taking a cloning potion would also impact Joe or if it just impacts the clone.
 
Re-read the story recently, noticed a few issues.
I don't know what it was about him that caused a mix of fear, hatred, and rage that overshadowed even the local Nazis, but it was enough to make me warry.

Wary

Baring that I would take equipment and materials

Barring

Twelve hours would be more than enough time to rebuild and upgrade and entire aircraft.

upgrade an entire aircraft

What's more it came with even more technical knowledge.

What's more, it came with even more technical knowledge.

I was confident I could personally resist any recruitment attempt, but if my identity was exposed that meant they could try to coheres me through family members.

coerce

He stated in a clam tone.

calm

Baukda started a bombing spree!"

Bakuda

Apparently it's the highest cape per capital in the country, excluding small towns where entire teams set up."

highest cape per capita (which actually isn't accurate to canon, but that's neither here nor there.)

Between the Adapts and the Elite things have been bad enough, but apparently the Teeth set up a cell recently."

Adepts

And as someone with an omni-tool up to the elbow in and active engine while making micro adjustments with the other hand and trying not to fall off a swerving high-speed motorcycle my threshold for a terrible idea really meant something.

elbow in an active engine

It wasn't the largest mots I had connected to, but the ability was so ridiculously overpowered that it nearly made me lose focus on what I was doing.

mote

Next to her Angelic literally growled at me.

Angelica

Also the locations of any confirmed or suspected front businesses and any properties I've been able to confirm as owned by gang members of their fronts."

This is word salad.

"From the way that talked about her I figured she'd be nicer. Also didn't know you were together."

"From the way that you talked..."

My duplicates would have snipped him from high altitude the moment he dared to show his face.

Sniped, unless they were giving him a vasectomy.

They linked their mass fields, creating a kind of tethering system that would not have been possible before Eleven Enchantment, and trailed behind the suits in a tight V formation as my duplicates launched themselves towards the site of the missiles.

Elven enchantment

That got a quick inquiry from me, to which Survey relayed that she had informed Aisha of the technical adequacy of the tea and offered suggestions regarding potential causes for a defective pallet.

palette

With a body language the looked awkward, nervous, and slightly embarrassed.

The pronoun here seems wrong.

Without a second thought I bust forward again, launching myself at Lung before the hulking cape could react.

burst

Talk about Bizaro world.

Bizarro



Pick one. Unless she changed her name, of course.

She felt a little weird having inside information on her what her brother had been essentially ordered to do.

...inside information on her what her brother...

There was also a Victorian feel in the scientific principles on display, and the general regard for research ethics that seemed to be held by the labratory.

laboratory

Seriously, whoes handwriting has actual serifs?

whose

I nodded. "Conductivity of salt water is a blessing for that." Normally an I-field would persist for nearly a month, but that was in vacuum conditions. In atmosphere, any interaction with charged or conductive materials could accelerate its deterioration. Water was effective, and salt water's higher conductivity broke it down on two fronts. "What about the city?"

I could see the results of the analysis for myself, but the duplicate explained it anyway, possibly for the benefits of discussing a problem, possibly for the benefit of Garment and Tetra. Garment seemed at least moderately interested in the information, but I could tell it was less from a technical perspective and more with respect to how it would affect the actions we would have to take and how it would impact the people of the city.

"Weather dependent. We get a calm dry period and it could last nearly a month. We get a couple of rainstorms strong enough to churn up the bay and that could be it for the field." He explained looking over to the other duplicate.

Wait, how is the bay being churned up supposed to help clear the fields in the city proper?

Still, as hard as he'd, as everyone had been working, none of them had been blown apart on a live broadcast only to pull themselves together and win the day.

I'd suggest "...as he had, as everyone had..." - it reads better.

And then there's these, which are just plain funny.

I wonder, can you put a municipality in time out?

As someone that used to routinely deal with intransigent jurisdictions this is hilarious to me.
God, I hope I don't get permanently associated with spectacles like this.

Edit: Uhh... I hate to break it to you, but...

At one point it managed to crawl up to my face and pry open one eyelid to check my eye.

This is so adorable sounding. Like Kryten's hand running around on Red Dwarf, or maybe a muppet.


Oh no, Aisha wants to learn ninja stuff. The world is doomed.
 
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