he can already say it but joe doesn't know the reference but it is still possible but he cant to the hardening Armstrong does rather he can do medical stuff and say "Nanomachiens son"
Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
- Thread starter LordRoustabout
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Bruh is there like a way to send u money or something cause this legit gave me the will to live
Lord had answered this question many times, with no, as he doesn't want to open a patreon or anything like that because of the added responsibility and stress writing for payment gives him. Personally, its a waste of a monetisable talent, but its Lord's decision
Aurora Moon
Verfied Insomniac with too much time on her hands
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- USA, Earth
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- She/Her
I can see where Titanfrost is coming from on that whole "friendships with large age gaps" thing.
There are reasons why it can be skeevy even without pedophiles coming into the picture itself, and it has to do with power imbalances.
Most adults are considered authorial figures in a kid's life for a reason, even if they aren't related to the kid or isn't their teacher, a policeman, etc.
Like how it can be considered skeevy if the boss/CEO suddenly tried to be buddies with his workers who were WAY down on the working social ladder.
It wouldn't be a true friendship because the kid might end up being subconsciously deferral to the adult even without realizing it. For instance, agreeing to activities like partaking in a baseball game, that the adult wants to do with them even if they secretly weren't in the mood for it. The adult just wants to hang out with them, and the kid might not feel it in them to simply say no because next time the adult might not want to hang out with them. or even fearing that the adults wouldn't buy them a toy they were eying for a long time if the adult got their feelings hurt.
Kinda like how a worker might feel the need to go along with whatever their boss wants because the boss's in charge of their paychecks and they don't want to hurt that by hurting the boss's feeling.
A friendship can only be real when both parties are on even footing and can feel comfortable telling each other "no" when they're not up to doing activities together that day, without fearing that it would harm their friendships in the long run. that they can be comfortable discussing their feelings with each other.
And well, there's a lot of things a kid wouldn't be willing to tell an adult, and there are definitely things that would be inappropriate to tell a kid as an adult.
Example:
"Why are you in a bad mood today, Mr. Brown?"
"Because my girlfriend wouldn't put out last night and I was really horny at the time."
I think the most it could be called was to be casual friendly acquaintances, rather than real friends. like, you got acquainted with each other because of workplaces, etc but you don't delve deeply into each other's personal lives for a good reason. You two hang out together in church or in an online game but you aren't sending each other selfies or some other shit like that.
There are reasons why it can be skeevy even without pedophiles coming into the picture itself, and it has to do with power imbalances.
Most adults are considered authorial figures in a kid's life for a reason, even if they aren't related to the kid or isn't their teacher, a policeman, etc.
Like how it can be considered skeevy if the boss/CEO suddenly tried to be buddies with his workers who were WAY down on the working social ladder.
It wouldn't be a true friendship because the kid might end up being subconsciously deferral to the adult even without realizing it. For instance, agreeing to activities like partaking in a baseball game, that the adult wants to do with them even if they secretly weren't in the mood for it. The adult just wants to hang out with them, and the kid might not feel it in them to simply say no because next time the adult might not want to hang out with them. or even fearing that the adults wouldn't buy them a toy they were eying for a long time if the adult got their feelings hurt.
Kinda like how a worker might feel the need to go along with whatever their boss wants because the boss's in charge of their paychecks and they don't want to hurt that by hurting the boss's feeling.
A friendship can only be real when both parties are on even footing and can feel comfortable telling each other "no" when they're not up to doing activities together that day, without fearing that it would harm their friendships in the long run. that they can be comfortable discussing their feelings with each other.
And well, there's a lot of things a kid wouldn't be willing to tell an adult, and there are definitely things that would be inappropriate to tell a kid as an adult.
Example:
"Why are you in a bad mood today, Mr. Brown?"
"Because my girlfriend wouldn't put out last night and I was really horny at the time."
I think the most it could be called was to be casual friendly acquaintances, rather than real friends. like, you got acquainted with each other because of workplaces, etc but you don't delve deeply into each other's personal lives for a good reason. You two hang out together in church or in an online game but you aren't sending each other selfies or some other shit like that.
Thought that the topic died, but here a my two cents. I completely agree there is a difference between hanging out as friends and being in the same social group. If it was just Joe in his workshop than that leaves a strong creep factor due to the reasons you pointed out. The difference is Aisha is a part of Joe's social group with Garment, Fleet, and Survey. Honestly that makes it seem more like Aisha is hanging out with Joe's kids while he and Garment watch over them as semi-functioning adults. Joe has never bothered asking Aisha any real personal questions outside of verifying her well being. Hell Joe doesn't have his life together well enough to be a good role model, but he is at least better than Brian as a mentor in cape society.
Aperion: Regent, I'd like to test your powers in a controlled environment.
Regent: Whaa? But that's boring I don't want to do tha-
Lisa: *pinches Regent* Psst. Regent, Do exactly what that dangerously powerful Trump Tinker tells you or we might all become his next wet-tinkering experiment!
Regent: Oh, I mean sure. Sounds grand. Lets go.
If a healthy friendship or a proper friendship can only exist when there is a power balance, then that means Joe can't have any friends what so ever.
The Shallow
Shallow, Yet Deep
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Hard Agree. Even when at the workshop, Aisha just hangs out with Survey, and occasionally Fleet, probably more now that she has Beria.
Neither Aurora nor Titan mean literal power. Aisha could murder Joe and steal all his tech if she wanted to. They mean social power, where someone is located on the social ladder. Joe is an adult, Aisha is a minor. Those social dynamics can always get kinda icky, which is what makes them uncomfortable about the notion of "Aisha and Joe being friends."
I disagree with their interpretation of their relationship, and have already stated my position on it, but don't be literal.
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Turbonator
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It's illegal to directly profit off of fanfic, though authors can get around this by simply not offering any fanfic-related tier rewards (i.e. advance chapters). If that would still cause Lord to feel pressured to "write for payment," then I'll echo the sentiment that Lord's decision is Lord's decision.
Lightwavers
Purple Noodle
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- they/them
I have seen so many authors offering advance chapters via Patreon. If it's actually illegal I'm very confused as to why not one of those people has been, if not brought to court, sent at least a warning letter by now.
Edit: though I think a lot of people reading would be happy to donate even without any reward.
Edit: though I think a lot of people reading would be happy to donate even without any reward.
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Whether personal or social, Power is Power. I doubt the man bleeding to death really cares for the philosophical difference between the two whether he was stabbed by the other guy directly with personal power, or by the guard the other guy ordered to stab him with his social power. And in some societies, Literal Power is Social Power. Particularly gladiatorial societies...like Brocktown Bay. When addressing power balances among normies, it is fine to differentiate between social and personal, if we are talking about OUR modern society, but when you get started on capes in Earth Bets society it is a different ballgame. To ignore it is to do a disservice to the world of Worm, and its occasionally unexpected possibly unintended complexity.
Aurora Moon
Verfied Insomniac with too much time on her hands
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- USA, Earth
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- She/Her
For the record, I'm not saying that Joe and Aisha can't be friends. I'm just saying I'd understand why some people would find their relationship weird in-universe, and I wouldn't blame them at all even if I didn't agree with them 100%. That's all.
It's easier to explain away by it being merely a social circle thing than it is to explain how a grown-ass man is friends with a young teen girl.
Especially so because poor Joe already had accusations of pedophilia thrown at him by PHO due to all the shipping between him and Taylor. Imagine how Brian and his father would feel when they find out that Aisha's hanging out with him for whatever reason without there being a good explanation for it. Yikes.
So to lessen the problems with it, it'd be easier to just say: "I know Ashia from the Gym and also though Garment. I work out at the gym and work for Garment. So it's not that we're friends per-see, we just hang out in the same social circles. It's not like I deliberately go out of my way to hang out with her, it just happens? *shrugs*"
It's easier to explain away by it being merely a social circle thing than it is to explain how a grown-ass man is friends with a young teen girl.
Especially so because poor Joe already had accusations of pedophilia thrown at him by PHO due to all the shipping between him and Taylor. Imagine how Brian and his father would feel when they find out that Aisha's hanging out with him for whatever reason without there being a good explanation for it. Yikes.
So to lessen the problems with it, it'd be easier to just say: "I know Ashia from the Gym and also though Garment. I work out at the gym and work for Garment. So it's not that we're friends per-see, we just hang out in the same social circles. It's not like I deliberately go out of my way to hang out with her, it just happens? *shrugs*"
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Okay, in canon Aisha would rather stay with her mom than her dad, because her dad really just sucks at parenting someone with her issues. (He wasn't great with Brian, but fighting discipline can be functional.) That hasn't come up in this fic, presumably she recently had a bad encounter with one of her mom's boyfriends and has been staying away for as long as Joe has known her, but it's telling that Aisha spends as much time hanging out in Joe's Volcano Lair as she can get away with: The sheer supertech coolness feeds her ADHD-like need for stimulation.
Now, with the Undersiders standing down for the moment, Brian possibly has more free time than usual, so how long before he notices that his sister regularly disappears from his custody, his dad's, and his mom's, and goes looking for what new source of trouble she's found?
Now, with the Undersiders standing down for the moment, Brian possibly has more free time than usual, so how long before he notices that his sister regularly disappears from his custody, his dad's, and his mom's, and goes looking for what new source of trouble she's found?
I really don't want that to be turned into a misunderstanding. Joe already has bad social communication skills as is.
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It would depend if she is in her "you can remember me" mode or not, after all is difficult to notice if she is not in his mind.
The Shallow
Shallow, Yet Deep
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I don't think she prefers her mom, the court just gave her mom custody initially. Her mom's various BFs abused her in a variety of ways, so she was taken out of there. Her mom is a massive druggee who will let her do anything, but she now seems to recognize some order is needed in her life, so she likely doesn't care much for her mom anymore.
Ren makes it very easy to tell and control.
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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Mostly unrelated, but how old does Joe look now anyway? Because he started looking 21, but he's had a hell of a lot of stuff happen to his body since then. I'm wondering if he might look older just due different stresses on his body and changes in musculature, younger due to the healing/mutation/demigodding, or the same age but different in some other way.
Like I doubt he looks like he's a kid or middle-aged but I wonder he at some point he won't look in a mirror and think he looks like a 90s tv star in his late-20s playing the part of a highschooler. Like, you know, someone took the bones of a superman and put them under the skin of a teenager, airbrushed comicbook character, an odd sort of agelessness, etc, idk.
Like I doubt he looks like he's a kid or middle-aged but I wonder he at some point he won't look in a mirror and think he looks like a 90s tv star in his late-20s playing the part of a highschooler. Like, you know, someone took the bones of a superman and put them under the skin of a teenager, airbrushed comicbook character, an odd sort of agelessness, etc, idk.
Well honestly, LordRostabout keep Joe looks little ambiguous. With this you can imagine yourself how Joe looks like. Average dude? Parangon of beauty? Go for it!
Personally, I like to imagine him like Sakata Kintoki rider from FGO. In fact, I bet each reader have a personal idea how Joe looks like.
Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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Yeah, but I'm more wondering how much his changes have changed the way he looks (besides giving him perfectly clear skin from regeneration).
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Thats not the reason, is just that her mother had custody over her. Also her mother's boyfriend caused her a lot of abuse like having a broken arm and heavy implication of being molested which is what caused the change of custody to her father, there's no way she would go back to her mother if we go through the canon terms.
While his father not paying attention to Aisha is a factor I don't think it takes a lot of thinking. Aisha has always been sticking her nose on everyone's business once she had powers, so its no surprise that she wants to spend time with the number one tinker in BB right now
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Aisha shouldn't want to hang with her mother, but she's not willing to abide under her father's authority, thus Brian trying to come up with a plan where he gains custody (because she'll totally listen to him). I suspect the cycle is that her mother and mother's current squeeze do something awful, Aisha avoids for a while, gets tired of living under Laborn discipline, goes back to mom to hang out, something awful happens again, rinse and repeat.
Anyway, as far as Joe goes, he's tall, he's godly-buff if he's not using potions to weaken himself, and he naturally smoulders thanks to Bayonetta. When he's really hurt, Tetra springs out of him like a glowing red tentacle monster.
The name Jozef is either Polish, Dutch, or Scandinavian in origin, so assuming significant amounts of one of those ethnicities?
Anyway, as far as Joe goes, he's tall, he's godly-buff if he's not using potions to weaken himself, and he naturally smoulders thanks to Bayonetta. When he's really hurt, Tetra springs out of him like a glowing red tentacle monster.
The name Jozef is either Polish, Dutch, or Scandinavian in origin, so assuming significant amounts of one of those ethnicities?
- Polish: Blond hair, blue eyes, high cheekbones, and sharp noses are the norm. General Scandinavian looks.
- Dutch: Germanic, except taller, blonder, thinner-faced.
- Slovak: Slavic, so kinda 'Russian'. Brunet, blond, or redhead, light-colored eyes, etc.
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- Space, the final frontier.
A lot of those authors try to make that a bit more vague.
By offering original works too.
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(Even the risk of getting into legal trouble, due to characters doing what was done in fanfiction was seen as bad.)
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Well, if you think about it, his "do one thing at a time" for any serious discussion takes him from "bad social skills" and brings it up to "below average social skills", which compounds with his Fashion skills and brings that up to "average".
So... he'd probably be able to deflect all of the worst accusations without much trouble, there's just the whole "you gave my baby sister supertech with only your nascent AI to supervise her?"
"Yeah, but my AI is more responsible with my technology than you guys were, sooo..."
"That's--.... uh... damn."
- Location
- Florida
To be fair, he started off not especially fit with a poor sense of clothe and hair-style before he got the Celestial Forge. Lacked confidence too.
Since then, he's basically become near-unrecognizable to his past existence due to perks, training and other factors.
I'm personally convinced that Joe's been beefed up and airbrushed into anime/comic book levels of handsome with all his imperfections minimized or excised completely and his positive traits amplified.
He also doesn't lack for confidence anymore (posing and flirting perks) and if he wanted to he could become a real heartbreaker (not the villian master).
- Location
- London - "Muffin wants to project a trans fantasy"
I also like the way Lord has kept Joe's looks ambiguous, that way it allows me to imagine Joe anyway I want.... anyway~ 😏
Besides, Joe is a gender ambiguous name anyway and since that's what the MC is most referred to as. I can keep my fantasy.