Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

There have been lots of folks excited about Tetra getting woven into a new shape.

I have a question. Wasn't Joe going to let Aisha and/or Taylor use Tetra for some quick results exercising? Joe pretty much said that he got his muscles through lots of exercise in a short amount of time. If I recall correctly, both girls sounded interested.

I hate to admit it, but I'm more interested in Taylor and Aisha training with Tetra as is rather than Joe weaving Tetra. Tetra may be really excited to be worn by either girl.

Let's be honest it would take one really good exercise session to get most of the results either girl would really want.

Tetra is rather young. Joe has been rather careful with all the kids. Transforming Tetra into a piece of clothing would be a major change for her. I doubt Joe would want to take advantage of her and at this stage, she'd jump at being more useful for him.

I'm just not sure if Joe would do it if he actually thought about it. O.k. he can change Tetra into awesome clothing... So what? He doesn't need the boost at the moment. It's more interesting to see how Tetra might evolve by having contact with the other girls than Joe and Survey. She is basically less than 2 weeks old.


This might be a bad idea. Tetra is used to taking in massive amounts of energy from Joe's Celestial Forge enhanced body. The moment the girls put Tetra, she's gonna suck them dry like Shang Tsung does in Mortal Kombat. I don't think Tetra has enough fine control yet.

Sounds more like a future project, once Tetra is safer to use, in a sense.
 
This might be a bad idea. Tetra is used to taking in massive amounts of energy from Joe's Celestial Forge enhanced body. The moment the girls put Tetra, she's gonna suck them dry like Shang Tsung does in Mortal Kombat. I don't think Tetra has enough fine control yet.

Sounds more like a future project, once Tetra is safer to use, in a sense.
Agreed, besides one of his perks will let him make a one star uniform or something without actualy using life fibers.
 
Agreed, besides one of his perks will let him make a one star uniform or something without actualy using life fibers.
Don't forget, between Put On The Reich and the The Flock's Fleece perk, he can mass-produce Goku uniforms of literally any rating and it'll all look professional and united, while also providing impossible degrees of comfort and protection. Simply put, becoming able to design a Goku uniform has made him capable of doing what Bakuda did - conscripting an army - but even more effectively and at a much shorter timespan.

This might not mean much, given he's holding back, but during Endbringer battles well...
 
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I really hope that Joe can finally strike a decisive blow against the ABB's parahumans this time. They function as a good way for him to have fights that are actually a challenge but they're honestly infuriating how they keep getting away from him and the consequences of their atrocities. Ward canon proved that March isn't as unstoppable as Joe's power seems to think she is, and I want to see the look of despair on her face when she faces justice.

That being said, I can't wait until Joe can combine the tech from Gundam, Big O, and Robotech to form his own custom machine. I've always held Gundam as my favorite mecha series, so I hope his mech takes that as his primary inspiration with the other series added on. Can't wait for the next update!

Typos/Suggestions:
ragnite based - ragnite-based
you shield, - your shield,
rapid fire - rapid-fire
all together. - altogether.
super metals - super-metals
speed aura - speed that aura
laser focused - laser-focused
Its apparently - It's apparently
projectile hurled - projectile was hurled
first hand - first-hand
free form - free-form
post sparring - post-sparring
skulls separation - skulls' separation
speed enhancing - speed-enhancing
precedents the - precedents that the
more yet digging. - yet more digging.
dissembly, - disassembly,
so merely - so he merely
size of fast - size of a fast
its running - it's running
star struck. - starstruck.
out of the hospital. - out of the hospital."
sign ups - signups
duration that risk - duration than risk
double checked, - double-checked,
baren space - barren space
muscle reducing - muscle-reducing
form fitting. - form-fitting.
world class - world-class
cyberpunk level - cyberpunk-level
Behemoth grade - Behemoth-grade
one then the - one than the
space capable - space-capable
water themed - water-themed
this take." - this take?"
partially completed - partially-completed
Tones of - Tons of
hand made - handmade
does it work." - does it work?"
power alone. - power alone."
duplicates 20% - duplicates' 20%
over prepared - over-prepared
full load out, - full loadout,
roof tops - rooftops
fiber enhanced - fiber-enhanced

Chapter 40:
sausage like - sausage-like
surface level - surface-level
red skinned - red-skinned
wide eyed - wide-eyed
auto graph - autograph
head shots - headshots
attention grabbing - attention-grabbing
awkward sounding - awkward-sounding
personal stuff. - personal stuff."
Lords Port - Lord's Port
spill over, - spillover,
second guessing - second-guessing
counter measure - countermeasure
full scale - full-scale
near indestructible - near-indestructible
material based - material-based
fusion powered - fusion-powered (2 changes)
back burner - backburner
Endbringer sized - Endbringer-sized
neck deep - neck-deep
near mythical - near-mythical
high tier - high-tier
free for all - free-for-all
March directed - March-directed
highly damaging - highly-damaging
 
So Lord talked about new perk he added recently:
Strike Witches are in the rolls for the next chapter, and the free perks will come with either item from the document. I might hold out the non-vital ones for the second perk/item (like the Jacket and Call Sigh), but the first roll will come with the free striker, Directional Shield, and basic level magical ability (that manifests ears/tail when active). The important thing is that Strikers amplify magical abilities, all magical abilities. This means Joe will get a boost to his other types of magic. It also means that, because of the parahuman/magic equivalency, capes could use a striker to gain flight and an increase in the strength of their powers.

Basically - Aisha now have a chance to become Magical Girl with animal ears/tail.

Joe's gonna have so much trouble trying to explain why his new flight giving mechanism have side-effects like this.

Can someone imagine Apeiron with wolf ears or something like that poking out of his menacing hood?
My brain keeps on giving an error message whenever i'm trying to do this...
 
I really hope that Joe can finally strike a decisive blow against the ABB's parahumans this time. They function as a good way for him to have fights that are actually a challenge but they're honestly infuriating how they keep getting away from him and the consequences of their atrocities. Ward canon proved that March isn't as unstoppable as Joe's power seems to think she is, and I want to see the look of despair on her face when she faces justice.
I think with the Data Dupli1 will get from the Lab, concerning the Deadmans Switch, he will manage to completely eliminate it, and I think he might manage to get Oni Lee and/or Lung captured. Good progress will be made this battle, I'm sure.
 
So Lord talked about new perk he added recently:

Basically - Aisha now have a chance to become Magical Girl with animal ears/tail.

Joe's gonna have so much trouble trying to explain why his new flight giving mechanism have side-effects like this.

Can someone imagine Apeiron with wolf ears or something like that poking out of his menacing hood?
My brain keeps on giving an error message whenever i'm trying to do this...
Actually there is a perk from bloody roar if I am not messing up the name that gives a full on beast form (sort of like a werewolf but for any animal including dinosaurs) si I am guessing what ever the animal he gets for this perk would be the same as his inner animal from strike witch.
 
Apeiron's New Androgynous armor (randomcringyjoke)
Was just browsing through my images file and found this and had an idea might write something similar with mechs

Apeiron's New Androgynous armor


Is Apeiron a man or a woman

It was a typical day in Brockton bay or as close to it when the ABB tried to attack

the Intentions of the ABB were not known as they tried to steal from Apeiron again with the help of the various capes they hired or recently joined their organization and they were Uber and Leet with Marche playing support

What they did not expect was the true gender of Apeiron

It was common knowledge that Apeiron was a man but his recent armor cast some doubt on that fact the armor looked feminine in some aspects and masculine in some aspects it was a confusing look to gove people as it was a paradoxical look which the PHO forums argued day in and day out

Going back to the fight Leet and uber didn't know how to feel as the armor looked radically different than the previous armors they fought and that meant unknown systems to prepare against and the preparations they prepared were specifically designed for the previous armor that Apeiron wore which didn't look like the new androgynous like looking armor so they were at a conundrum should they risk it and fight an unknown armor or do they play it safe and pick a fight at a different time but they didn't need to decide as March decided to risk it and probe Apeiron for the specs of the new suit

But Apeiron knowing that March won't run away fro probing more about his tech and he wanted to field test it against someone who is a semi challenge but Apeirons new suit was many times stronger than his previous suit in many ways as it was a complete rebuild of it with even more technology and every technology and magic was in harmony form the weirdest and unlikely to unheard

it was clear in the way Apeiron moved his movements were flawless there was no lag between thought and execution of the thought by the body

Apeiron already calculated the moves by simulating reality through a cennection to his throne and already started executing the movements and actions needed to defeat the gaming duo and March swiftly and efficiently

Uber and leet reacted by shooting Apeiron with their game-themed guns but Apeiron already calculated that and quickly used one of his new features on his new suit Built-in super thruster system TIAMAT that had an enormous amount of acceleration and the sheer thrust that it had Apeiron quickly blitzed the duo and disarmed them while also striking their armors weak spots

The total amount of time the fight took was 5 seconds
 
Actually there is a perk from bloody roar if I am not messing up the name that gives a full on beast form (sort of like a werewolf but for any animal including dinosaurs) si I am guessing what ever the animal he gets for this perk would be the same as his inner animal from strike witch.
Yeah, i remember this.
People on Discord concluded that Jozef's an octopus.
But an octopus have no outer ears or tails. Well if we counting tentacles as tails then octopus have too many tails.

Nice, now my brain struggles even more with imagining Apeiron using Striker.
 
So! Taylor has a Silk Armor.

With all of Apeirons abilities & Garments, can it be rebuilt with all the perks?
Very easily. Remember, one of Joe's perks involves dismantling things and getting all of the materials involved, except more considering Workaholic. Taylor could literally just give him a piece of silk fabric and it would be enough for him to outfit literally all the silk costumes.

...actually, considering Garment, she could probably just make the spider silk on her own using money. And considering Joe's technological prowess, he's probably already working with textiles far stronger than even spider silk cloth.
 
Speaking of taylor; If she were to ask him to bio-engineer her better bugs, what do you think he could do?
There's life fiber treatment(Would probably need the Arcane Craft for that), raginite enhancement, chimera knowledge, etc.
 
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Can you post the WOG on that
Sure, let me just track it down.

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Looks like I misremembered things due to them mixing up. LordRoustabout hasn't outright stated him being better at biotinkering than Bonesaw, however...
It was a comprehensive wet tinkering ability centered on the creation of monsters. In other words, it was the second half of my original specialty, dumped on me out of nowhere. In fact, if you count the nature of memories as the neurochemistry side and the creation of chimeras as the bioengineering side I was now back to where I would have been with my original trigger. Nilbog meets Heartbreaker by way of Bonesaw. Only Nilbog couldn't make monsters on this scale, and Heartbreaker couldn't rewrite someone's entire life.

I didn't know what to do with this information. I meant that both on the meta level of suddenly having this power, and in practical terms of suddenly being able to produce giant monsters.

Actually, no. It wasn't just giant monsters. That would have been too simple. The information was there, breaking down how to sequence, engineer, incubate, and finally produce something that would grow to a size that no living thing should be able to approach. That was bad enough, but it wasn't the truly horrifying part. There was more biological knowledge here, comprehensive knowledge on artificial proteins, biological augmentations, and various uses for live subjects.

There were shortcuts that you could take to rush the production of a giant monster. You just needed to throw out any semblance of morality. Live subjects, particularly humans, could be used as a starting point. The things I could do… Well, I really didn't want to think about them.
He has been stated to be better in the story than Nilbog, and...
LordRoustabout said:
With what Joe's healing nanites are capable of there isn't much Bonesaw can do that he can't fix. His only limits are magical curses or 'a really out of this world super virus', and even the virus is something he can handle. Unless she starts using parahuman powers to alter people he can roll back any level of butchery she attempts. If she tries to put traps or killswitches in them then she's racing the nanites and going up against Joe's understanding of technology. That's not even getting into the fact that she uses mechanical control rigs and is basically hoping her ECM can counter someone like Joe.

Basically, if Joe gets his hands on Murder Rat he'll be able to physically fix them. They might need some therapy or possibly a controlled dose of water, but recovery is possible.
While there is no direct comparison in their biotinkering skills, Joe has been stated in one of the WoGs to be able to fix anything Bonesaw inflicts on people. Do note that this came from a comment on Ao3 at chapter 41, which is 6 updates ago and before the perk that led to him being stated to be better than Nilbog above. The assumption that he is also now better than Bonesaw in biotinkering is within possibility considering these data points, but until confirmed take it with a grain of salt.

Either way, yes, Joe can make some very monstrous bugs for Taylor to use.
 
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Yeah, i remember this.
People on Discord concluded that Jozef's an octopus.
But an octopus have no outer ears or tails. Well if we counting tentacles as tails then octopus have too many tails.

Nice, now my brain struggles even more with imagining Apeiron using Striker.
What if garment got a striker (and it worked) how would that work. An inner animal overlaps the person sort of. But she doesn't have a body, so would her body be formed by the inner animal?
 
What if garment got a striker (and it worked) how would that work. An inner animal overlaps the person sort of. But she doesn't have a body, so would her body be formed by the inner animal?
I think for striker to work user should have some magical abilities, and all of Garment's powers come from fiat and not from magic.

But if it somehow would work on her, i think what we would get is pair of white gloves with stylized cat-like ears and tail made from same fabric as gloves itself.


On different subject:
It appears ABB will not be dealt with completely in this fight:
Somer's Rock is still likely to happen, just for the villains to get a measure on the situation and come to a consensus on how to handle the ABB. In the aftermath of this fight they will want Apeiron there to get an idea of his intentions going forward.


Oh and Endbringer who will try to attack BB will be triple teamed:
The EB fight is a ways away, but giant robots are almost certainly going to make an appearance.


So imagine you're an Endbringer, terror of this world, and while getting closer to next city you gonna destroy, first thing you see is 3 mechas, most of which bigger then you, pulling this pose
 
The sudden forced immortality of any great population of people is just asking for an apocalypse. Babies continuing to be born eventually causing overpopulation. Authority figures never dying off to make room for new leaders with new ideas. Issues like that go on and on.

That's an extremely common misconsception about how population work. The only thing that influence overpopulation is the number of children per women (or more accurately, the number of new people that become able to procreate, so those children need to survive).

Women have a limited supply of ovum which is created before they are even born. That's why women can no longer bear children after 45 to 50 year old (menopause). But we, humans, already expect to live longer than that, so turning humanity immortal wouldn't create a sudden boom of population.

To go back to the number of children, what would happen is:
- If the number is above 2, then we get an exponential growth, assuming no external death
- If the number is below 2, then the growth will slow down until humans stop making babies

If we look at the present day, in richer countries, the number of babies per women is close to 2, or even lower than 2 in some case (looking at you, Japan). So we will mostly be in the "good" case of no exponential growth.

TL;DR if Joe turn Brockton Bay population immortals, it won't be seen immediatly, and it probably won't be a big deal anyway. And of course, that's discounting external deaths like the fucking Endbringers - immortal doesn't mean unkillable.

(That was a message from the transhumanist gang.)
 
I think I'm gonna write a technobabble omake of Joe Biotinkering bugs. I just need to research raginite enhancement.
 
If we look at the present day, in richer countries, the number of babies per women is close to 2, or even lower than 2 in some case (looking at you, Japan). So we will mostly be in the "good" case of no exponential growth.

TL;DR if Joe turn Brockton Bay population immortals, it won't be seen immediatly, and it probably won't be a big deal anyway. And of course, that's discounting external deaths like the fucking Endbringers - immortal doesn't mean unkillable.

(That was a message from the transhumanist gang.)
I see the Kurzgesagt influences in this argument. I like you.

One thing to be noted though - by the time Joe does this kind of uplifting, he'll most likely only do it once every threat in Earth Bet has been dealt with. At that point, he can also directly catapult humanity into post-scarcity society with access to space travel, so any concerns over overpopulation is almost tangentially answered even if people keep on having the same amount of babies as before. After all, infinite energy (from his many, many perks that break reality) + infinitely expanding universe = infinite proliferation, which was the Entities' goal, ironically enough.

And this is with his existing perks. Once he gets access to Maker-class perks, literally creating new realities gets put on the table, so no issues on the long term whatsoever.
 
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