That would be fun, but I think Joe just making a single phone call and then Apeiron shows up before he can hang up to provide medical support no questions asked would actually be a bigger deal in some ways.
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is that how Survey looks like canonically?Commissioned Survey with Lance and Shield Fan Art. Artist is ArtisticApparition.
Huh...
I always imagined her with short-ish straight black hair that she sets up in a bun when working.
She specifically has silvery or white hair when acting as Survey.
Literally silver, as in metallic. A true elemental-platinum blonde.
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Commissioned Survey with Lance and Shield Fan Art. Artist is ArtisticApparition.
Absolutely gorgeous, thanks for this.
I really hate how his sister is still trying to manipulate him.
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I won't re-quote C.S.Lewis in regards to tyranny but she at least believes that she is pushing him to a better place.
The fact that she's dead wrong isn't something that is likely to occur to her until it's shoved in her face.
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This is such an interesting dynamic because it is so common. Not so common that it's the norm, of course, but common enough that even if we haven't personally experienced it, it's very likely something we've seen/watched unfold.
The sister genuinely wants Joe to succeed while simultaneously wanting their mom to get off her ass about him. Further, neither mom nor sister actually have up to date information about Joe. They are both working on the model they made up about him in their heads. That particular facet (the not-at-all up-to-date model in their heads) is something almost everyone has experienced, even if it is only by a distant cousin or aunt or something like that.
Those genuine relationships that can so easily turn toxic and/or are so close to an existing toxic relationship that it can be difficult to see, let alone enumerate, the differences are what anchors this story about fiction invading fiction.
One of the things that makes it especially bad is that their model has been incredibly flawed. This theoretical Joe in their head has never existed, depending on their biases real Joe never even looked like theoretical Joe.
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They share that flaw with all the world's thinkers' current model of Aperion.
I can't wait for them to learn about how Joe has been spoofing the thinkerers and the models are completely untrustworthy.
That's a fun one; the PRT/Protectorate already know that wide-area Thinker disruption is a thing from March. They're about to learn about a second instance that is both more pervasive and more subtle when Joe&Co lock down Jack's Shard/passenger/agent/snark. At that point, anyone with basic pattern recognition (so everyone except the vaunted Thinkers) should start saying things like "two is an impossible number" and getting very worried about how much time Apeiron had to study both Jack's and March's powers and the possibility that he could have developed more than a straight counter-effect. It will only get worse once they start reviewing their official decisions regarding the SH9 and spot the sensible idea → gibberish threshold where mundane analysis gets handed off to Thinkers.
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I wonder if that might be the thing that exposes RCB? The fact that she appears to have also been affected by Jack's sense-scrambler?
Certainly possible but if they start detecting a similar pattern with analysis of Apeiron they might get distracted enough to forget about that for a while. Maybe long enough for RCB to resign… even if Alexandria stays on the roster.
per wog the capes are going to be very distracted because part of the reason they insist telepathy is impossible is because they care a lot about the sanctity of their minds so the sheer proof that something was messing with them that much is going to seriously throw them.
Yeah but that's just the capes. The mundanes whose ideas were dropped because "thinker support" said it wasn't feasible are gonna be pissed.
Funnier if he congratulates Joe on his beautiful girlfriend and we get a full comedy of errors skit where Joedad means Survey, Joe thinks he means Crystal and has no idea how his dad would have figured that out but is too distracted by trying to deny it to actually clarify, and Garment just pouts while Aisha laughs her ass off.
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You would have thought that their biggest argument against telepathy being possible being "there's no way you could fit all that brainpower or other necessary organs inside someone's head" would already be evidence that something was messing with them.
They don't ask "what organs allow Glory Girl to fly?", or say "there's no way that Lung can fit all of that mass inside his body to ramp up", etc. That's part of why Passenger Theory got going outside of Cauldron — but, when it comes to Telepathy, they suddenly only accept it if it obeys all of the physical laws that Parahuman Powers are practically defined by their ability to break.
Oh yeah, I remember seeing that argument before. Just the existence of Skitter alone defies it. Twice, even: not only does she demonstrably not have the extra processing power to handle several billion additional inputs, manipulate them in real time, and return commands; the simple fact is that she is in direct telepathic contact with the insects at all times. Telepathy isn't limited to or defined by "thought-speech" type communication.
What a socially maladjusted ingrate she is.
I wonder whether Joe could make a Super Weapon out of those mental models; they're definitely fucking treasured enough.
I fail to see how the various emotion sensers, thinkers that just know stuff, and masters are any less invasive than telepathy.
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By Telepathy they mean remote Master powers. Which yeah, insisting it's impossible is ridiculous and stupid. Like, 'Hijack' was a known villain.
If that's what they mean by telepathy there are a ton of those. Like. Holy shit. There are so many.
Not even that this stuff first came up at the bank when Lisa claimed to be psychic to explain the info she knew and Vicky is the one who went nice try I study this stuff and the scientists proved telepathy is impossible without a larger brain.
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This right here is the reason why Glory Girl will NEVER beat "stoopid" allegations
Vicky show me what brain bit let's your sister process the entire biological makeup of a person instantly when she touches them. Anyway, that basically just early establishment weirdness.