Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Far less energy than that, since the "high energy plasma" would have rest mass. He's claiming what amounts to highly controlled nuclear fusion, rather than direct energy-to-matter.
Hm, point. But in that case, the question would still be "Where did you get all this energy from" but it's certainly far more doable that direct energy-to-matter. And what kind of efficiency Apeiron is working at to actually manage it in the first place.
 
I believe it was mentioned earlier that Joe got a megadeus. The last few days I've had this scene in my head----Joe is piloting the Big O, its halfway submerged in the bay with the sun half risin behind it (orange-red) with some clouds in the sky above--while the song The Big O by Rui Nagai plays in the background. Joe then proceeds to crush the slaughterhouse 9 with the Big O--ending with stepping on Jack. lol
 
I mean an object which in of itself is a God.
There's Fleet, Survey, and the Matrix. Divine creations that are divine themselves. He made them with his own divinity in them, the Arcane Craft focuses and strengthens it, Heretical Adaptation means that that focusing and strengthening will continue to improve.

The Matrix pushes and develops their divine craftsmanship, Arcane Craft enhances that, and Heretical Adaptation enhances that. Eventually the Matrix will possess divine craftsmanship that puts Hephaestus himself to shame. Fleet and Survey are similar with technology control and awareness respectively. He made quasi deities that will eventually tower above Olympus in their fields.

Joe was working on a program to teach him how to ride a motorcycle, and some understanding of his nanites. Things snowballed from there.
 
.....I kinda want someone from the forge to put down a list of three things that apperion can do, and state that one is correct (for now) with the Dyson sphere as one of the options. Then tetra gets the first post in the thread with the this is gonna be good gif but with her doing the sitting down.
 
especially accounting for the deflation that would result from the sudden influx of gold into the economy.
What deflation?
The monetary system is no longer fixed to gold so the amount of gold available will only affect the dollar price of gold. Even then it probably won't be by much as the price of gold is fixed by the belief of the people who buy it which can, and does, change minute by minute.
 
What deflation?
The monetary system is no longer fixed to gold so the amount of gold available will only affect the dollar price of gold. Even then it probably won't be by much as the price of gold is fixed by the belief of the people who buy it which can, and does, change minute by minute.
The deflation on the price of the gold itself, I meant. Because supply and demand are related, and a sudden influx of thousands of tons of gold would certainly affect the price of gold.
 
The deflation on the price of the gold itself, I meant. Because supply and demand are related, and a sudden influx of thousands of tons of gold would certainly affect the price of gold.
IF people know about it yes, but as long as people in the know keepit hush hush it's fine.

Look at diamonds, it's an open secret that the companies incharge throttle the availability so that the price stays high even though it shouldn't cost what they do today. It's all an illusion of perceived value just like brand clothing tbh.

My sister before she got married found a 8k+ brand dress that she wanted. What did she do? "nah that's to expensive, I know this good seamstress I just payed her 300 bucks to copy the complicated and beautiful design with the same type of fabric, nobody can tell the difference Tacky. I'm not even hiding it when people ask."

I don't know much about wedding dresses as a guy uninterested in fashion but literally everything that made that dress worth it's price from an outside perspective was there except that a specific designer or brand or whatever gave the dress it's "value"

Seriously what's the difference between me and 2 buddies making an exact replica of an expensive million dollar + sports car but remove the brand name to have for personal use? Are people gonna go like "HAHA you don't have the small markings that show that this is an car worthy of status even though it performs to the same standard and look the same to 95% you are poor and I payed 50 times more then you did for a logo but the same specs" ?

This is why apple especially is stupid btw, people literally don't care about quality aymore smh

a 30 second video that shows what I mean lol
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/6_XhxsWrKUI?feature=share
 
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soooo... joe has a skill that makes him skilled at everything right... like the not a stupid grunt ability that never seems to be relevant or referenced in the fic... anyways

how realistic is this scenario especially if he could apply everything counts like iron...like muscle knots XD


View: https://youtu.be/NV-6m0x5bt4



apparently this is actually happens more often then it should irl lol
 
soooo... joe has a skill that makes him skilled at everything right... like the not a stupid grunt ability that never seems to be relevant or referenced in the fic... anyways
That one?
  • Not A Stupid Grunt (Mass Effect) 100:
That you are not. You are smart enough to be the foremost scientist in your field. This doesn't make you so, but you could get there on your own with not a terrible amount of effort. Still not as smart as a drell, but hey, who is?

Doesn't seem impressive, even by 100 perk standards. Why generic intelligence boost should be referenced?

Even that one more impressive:
  • Scientist: Machinery (Girl Genius) 100:
You have a DOCTORATE! And skill in ACTUAL SCIENCE! That doesn't need you to go crazy to work! Admittedly, it won't break the fabric of space and time, but meh. Tradeoffs everywhere you go. You're highly trained in one field, and can easily apply its principles to your work. After all, building a crazed abomination upon the natural order usually requires at least a smidgen of understanding of which bones are supposed to go where (Even if you end up changing them around a little). At the very least, you're also in the genius range of standard intelligence.

At least this also gives a PhD along with INT stat boost.
 
Please make Fleet watching REDLINE happen,we need more style and Fleet hooking up the Endbringers up to a spaceship,racing to the moon and blowing them up along with a (significant) chunk of the moon.
Seems like the most natural progression of events to me.
 
The deflation on the price of the gold itself, I meant. Because supply and demand are related, and a sudden influx of thousands of tons of gold would certainly affect the price of gold.
Wrong term, then. Deflation is when prices go down in general. If most consumer goods used gold, cheap gold could lead to deflation.
Instead, gold acts like an alternative currency, so it's "devalued".
Joe also isn't making enough gold to change its price much. So long as he makes less of it than a new gold mine would, the effect on the overall market is minor.

But in that case, the question would still be "Where did you get all this energy from"
"Highly controlled nuclear fusion" answers that too.
 
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Doesn't seem impressive, even by 100 perk standards. Why generic intelligence boost should be referenced?
Even that one more impressive:
At least this also gives a PhD along with INT stat boost.

You should check Girl Genius, that world is... anyone with technical ability can make wonders impossible in our world. Furthermore, should Joe get the Spark! perk, things will get even more ridiculous, the MC once improved a coffee machine so much that the coffee allowed you to gaze into infinity.
 
it's crazy how this fits Joe's entire character arc from beginning to end, if he actually hates anything about his past, which I don't thnk(?) then even the line about hate fits and that would make literally every single word in the song fit something in the story related to him.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV9FRcSlWKw

It's like a conversation between joe and his clones and then now the more active joe after all the perks.

You should check Girl Genius, that world is... anyone with technical ability can make wonders impossible in our world. Furthermore, should Joe get the Spark! perk, things will get even more ridiculous, the MC once improved a coffee machine so much that the coffee allowed you to gaze into infinity.
If he gets a spark with all his other boosts and divine abilites the world explodes, I concider that an auto cannot turn of ability. All I know about GG is that if you have a spark you're literally insane
 
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If he gets a spark with all his other boosts and divine abilites the world explodes, I concider that an auto cannot turn of ability. All I know about GG is that if you have a spark you're literally insane
IIRC Lord says that Joe could mitigate the spark with The Arcane Craft, so he's not completely fucked. But it is another mental health issue to monitor.
 
Alternate Direction of Hard Talk (Shyft)
Imagine an alternate direction of Hard Talk...



She could hear him breathe on the other end of the line. Like he was building up to something. "Yes, why? Why do I need to explain that my sister tearing me down in front of my parents, while they say nothing, on the worst night of my life is something I can be upset about?"

"So, this is all about Natalia?" Of course, baby brother has to make it all about himself. "That's why you're putting everyone through all this?"

He played the role to the hilt, putting on airs of maturity by breathing deeply to steady himself. Except his control failed partway through, and he couldn't stop his rising voice straining against the limits of Alena's tiny phone speakers. "Setting aside the fact that apparently nobody has any problems with the way she behaves, you do know that I got kicked out of school that night?" I asked. "You don't think that might have been a touch upsetting for me? Not just for Mom, but for me? That it would have been hard to deal with even if I was in my best mindset, which I wasn't? Even if I didn't have my sister tearing me down and Mom effectively blaming me for everything that went wrong? Do you know how badly that could have gone?"

That phrase. That whole idea slammed into Alena's mind with the sudden force of a closing beartrap. She was no cape groupie, but people talked, and the handful of media accounts and twitter feeds that graced her phone delved into fringe theories and wild speculation as much as anything. On recent events, the Ungodly Hour, triggers and tropes of cape life.

"Apeiron."

"What."

"You- him. The Enigmatic Articifer." She swallowed an uncomfortable gulp of air. "I've heard- I mean, what happens on someone's worst days. What can happen."

Silence on the other end. No static or even the hint of breathing that had previously underscored Jozef's explanation. For a second Alena felt fear-true mortality. A deep and watery feeling of religious terror. She was reminded of a meme thread one of her coworkers had shared, where clips and photos of capes, especially local ones- were paired with topical quotes. Or not so topical. Like the Flashbang ones.

But one stood out. One clung to her memory along with those lurid water-cooler conversations about capes and the offensive gossip. How someone was just one bad day away from super powers. And how about someone had taken a picture of one of Apeiron's suits in the time-field, and set it to a quote that at the time made no sense. ""I never said, 'The superman exists and he's American.' What I said was 'God exists and he's American.'"

It turned out that quote had come from a comic written on Earth Aleph, and only recently had made its way to Earth Bet.

The most powerful being on the planet short of Scion was on the other end of the line. Her baby brother was on the other end of the line. Jozef Duris was Apeiron.

"-lena. Alena!"

Jozef's rising shout was enough to snap her back into focus, and she was glad for the wordless wet squawk that slipped past her lips. That it swallowed up the first words tumbling out of her mouth- sorry. And she was, but she was smart enough to know the difference between true sincerity and the existential dread of appeasing someone bigger, stronger, with more power over you. Like her own mother when she made a mistake, or her teachers or her boss. Now her brother.

"J-Jozef?" Alena licked her lips, thinking. There was a chance. A tiny chance she was wrong. Or that Jozef would take the first opportunity to laugh it off. To make her think it was impossible- that he couldn't be the Enigmatic Artificer.

"Yes."

For a second she imagined the uptick at the end, the curl of his voice that'd make the single word into a question. Without thinking, she felt herself slump into her chair, relieved. And a fraction of a second later, she realized the truth- not just an acknowledgement, but an answer.

"I-I-"

"I'm sending you something." He cut her off with such an uncharacteristic decisiveness that she almost didn't recognize his voice.

"Ah- A text. Email?"

"Priority mail- it should arrive tonight. A watch. It should help keep you safe."

Safe. Safe? "You still. I me-"

"Stop." Jozef never interrupted her, even at his angriest he just stood there and took things. From Natalia, from Mom. Twice now in the same conversation he cut through to her. He spoke as if it were the most obvious thing in the world "You're family- of course I want to keep you safe."

Alena's throat seized up, but she managed to croak out a helpless but. Jozef just carried on as if he knew what she was going to say. Maybe he did. "The line is secure- and you've known me for my entire life short of these past few weeks. Nothing about my powers have ever changed the fact that you're my family and that I don't want to hurt any of you or see you hurt. If you're going to apologize, think about what you're apologizing for before you say it."

So Alena did, and over the line she heard the faintest murmur of other voices. A piqued tone huffing something 'about god damned time' and other sounds. Jozef's friends. In a hot second, Alena realized he could've probably hidden that from her, that the casualness of her overhearing through his phone was as much a performance as anything- but an effective one.

There was a scuffle then, on the other end of the line-and Jozef's muted cry of dismay as he seemed to be pulled away. The line went dead, to dial tone, and Alena was left holding the phone chiming softly in her ear.

Then it rang. It tumbled from her hand and clattered on the living room floor, and to her dismay the screen cracked lengthwise- but she could still gingerly accept the call. "J-Jozef?"

"No-" A young woman's voice- maybe even a teenager. "This is Aisha. I'm one of Jozef's friends."

Hearing her brother's name pronounced so awkwardly made Alena blink, nearly unable to compute. This Aisha seemed to carry on without noticing. "Anyway- so Joe's got something he has to take care of, and we'll probably give you more info once your watch arrives. In the meantime I'm going to lay out some facts for you- You ready?"

No. Never. Yes. "I think so..."

Aisha took a deep breath. "Okay- so talking with Joe and all his friends and seeing what a piece of work my own mom is like- your mother is an abusive control-freak. She means well but that's what makes it so terrible. She fucked up- she is fucked up, and passed that on to your sister, you and Joe. I can't make this choice for you, but everything I know says the best thing you can do right now is block your mom's number, her emails- even your dad's if you have to. The less contact you have with any of that toxic nuclear waste dump, the better. Look up that quote by C.S. Lewis if you want to understand where Joe and I are coming from."

Abusive? If it were any other day, any other time Alena might've shot upright, screamed into her phone- that some random woman would even say such a thing about her mother. But this was Jozef, the brat, the darling baby. The problem child.

Except...

Maybe he wasn't the problem. And that was a problem in and of itself.

"I can't just... she's my mother." Alena sighed, already exhausted from work and the reveal after reveal. "I can't just block her without explaining why."

"You can. You should." Aisha insisted. "You're the only one who can- oh I'm sure we could set your watch up to do it, but it wouldn't count. Anyway- I wanted to just make sure you knew where we stood and that Joe was fine. It was just a workshop addition. Hopefully we'll get this all handled."

"I... Okay." Alena sucked in a steadying breath. "Not sure how I'm going to be able to sleep after all of this, but... thank you. And tell Jozef that... that he can call me again, if he wants."

"I think he'd appreciate that. See ya!"

the line went dead once more, and Alena stared at her broken phone.

The next morning, arriving at her apartment door as if by magic postal fairies, was a thin envelope with bubble wrapped interior. Inside was a stunningly gorgeous silver band of gleaming metal and fine chain links. When she read the note and asked the watch's assistant to help set her preferences, she glanced back her broken phone and the brochures she'd looked up for replacements.

"Huh."
 
I'm confused on why Joe sent it in the mail instead of quickly making something to bring it to her
Cause he's got a power the guarantee's it'll get to her and he's got no reason to believe someone was listening in and could be moving on Alena right that moment.
 
list of ideas joe could make

  • make a 2km tall mech into 2m tall power armor
  • the indomitan mantle is chainmail in the iron fists armory capable of deflecting energy, he can make a single ring per nanobot of the matrix, probably stronger and more its also not a unique example of DAoT tech, the ultramarines have a metallic cloth that does the same. this could lead to an effect similar to narwhal that could resist sting by layering many fields on top of one another
  • make a spaceship into a floating surfboard
  • making himself an actual kaiju
  • making 40k/Gundam vehicle models that are fully functional
  • create Magmatter
  • create stasis weapons and time chambers
  • undo the blackout zone by creating a minovsky particle absorber
  • try some of the board games that should come with the game room perk
  • make uppercrust a pie
I feel like at this point joe can do nothing for the problems he has but has nothing else he can't accomplish

creating this impression of the problems he has are simply because of the plot
 
I'm actually interested to see this continuing. It would be a neat bit of alternative timeline. Sorta like a "what if".

How would Joe's sister knowing earlier help or hinder Joe? How would his family react? Like would his mother start trying to get into contact with him? Would Thinkers wonder why Aperion is seemingly protecting these random people? What sort of contracts do they have with him?

I could easily see the PRT and perhaps even other government organizations setting up discreet protection around Joe's family/sister thinking that by seemingly looking like they are on his side and helping out, he might be more favorable to them.

Just a fun thought.
 
list of ideas joe could make

  • make a 2km tall mech into 2m tall power armor
  • the indomitan mantle is chainmail in the iron fists armory capable of deflecting energy, he can make a single ring per nanobot of the matrix, probably stronger and more its also not a unique example of DAoT tech, the ultramarines have a metallic cloth that does the same. this could lead to an effect similar to narwhal that could resist sting by layering many fields on top of one another
  • make a spaceship into a floating surfboard
  • making himself an actual kaiju
  • making 40k/Gundam vehicle models that are fully functional
  • create Magmatter
  • create stasis weapons and time chambers
  • undo the blackout zone by creating a minovsky particle absorber
  • try some of the board games that should come with the game room perk
  • make uppercrust a pie
I feel like at this point joe can do nothing for the problems he has but has nothing else he can't accomplish

creating this impression of the problems he has are simply because of the plot
By "Iron Fist's armoury" do you mean the Iron Hands, or an armoury on Ferrus Manus' ship "The Fist of Iron"?
 
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