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Except the posters are a point of the criticism as well.

I find it interesting that your solution to having a dissenting opinion is "take it where I can't see it." Think about what that implies and get back to me.
I edited in "another thread" as another solution. And here's the thing, I looking at all sides, and I suspect there's some fundamental misunderstandings, but that's okay, this how people are, and only by rubbing up against each other can we learn.

My "solution" was not what I want, but based on what I know of Poptart, and what they want. And from what I know, Poptart wants a thread that blessedly free of heated arguments. Or at least ones that are more directly on-topic, like whether or not you think Kakara would be aware of such a thing and oppose it on those grounds, or doesn't care about such things.
 
You know I'm surprised nobody so much as mentioned that social pressure is turning something Kakara likes and wants to do, on top of being politically advantageous into this horribly awkward thing. Its a dance equivalent, not a take home to meet parents equivalent.

Kakara loves fighting as much as any Saiyan, but her pacifist values and her high power makes it difficult to get any kind of a decent match without being abusive to someone.
 
Thread unlocked, there was some internal staff discussion over the recent "end of discussion" post by Orm and we decided to uphold it. If you want to discuss that tangent somewhere else then you're welcome to start a thread about it. If you think anyone broke the rules during the course of the discussion, then report them.

Carry on.
 
It was very much not 'and there's the regulars' though. This was 'All hands to stations, batton down the hatches and fetch the buckets.'
We even got an assistant admin. This was all kinds of bad news bears.
 
It was very much not 'and there's the regulars' though. This was 'All hands to stations, batton down the hatches and fetch the buckets.'
We even got an assistant admin. This was all kinds of bad news bears.
Eeh. I think you overestimate the significance of Cetashwayo posting. I've seen him do perfectly ordinary mod actions, such as giving a friendly warning in an RP thread about spaghetti posting. Now, this was in a higher than mod capacity, but having a rank higher than mod posting doesn't, necessarily, mean they are acting as anything other than an ordinary mod, even when it's not as an ordinary user.
 
Kakara loves fighting as much as any Saiyan, but her pacifist values and her high power makes it difficult to get any kind of a decent match without being abusive to someone.
This is wrong. Kakara doesn't like fighting and has never liked fighting. Her recent trait evolution just means she doesn't consider it morally wrong to defend yourself. She's still the same girl who evolved rather than got rid of the Gentle trait. She likes winning, so she only likes fighting if she wins.
 
Ok, so you support the Yes option then?
Because were guaranteed to win
No I don't. Kakara won't automatically like something just because it involves her winning. In this case, she doesn't want to fight this kid for reasons beyond simply not liking fighting in general. Why she wouldn't want to fight has already been stated by others in the thread and I'm not going to get into cyclical argument.
 
No I don't. Kakara won't automatically like something just because it involves her winning. In this case, she doesn't want to fight this kid for reasons beyond simply not liking fighting in general. Why she wouldn't want to fight has already been stated by others in the thread and I'm not going to get into cyclical argument.
Well that contradicts what you just said but ok.
 
No it doesn't. If the kid challenged her to a "who can kill the most Saiyans" contest she'd win that too, but it doesn't mean she'd enjoy the activity.
Whats that got to do with a Sparring match though? I mean there are some good arguments you could have said but making a false equivalence between murdering lots of people and a friendly sparring match isn't one.
 
Whats that got to do with a Sparring match though? I mean there are some good arguments you could have said but making a false equivalence between murdering lots of people and friendly sparring match isn't one.
Again, if it was just a friendly sparring match, Kakara would probably be ok with it, but there's more to this fight than just a fight.
 
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This is wrong. Kakara doesn't like fighting and has never liked fighting. Her recent trait evolution just means she doesn't consider it morally wrong to defend yourself. She's still the same girl who evolved rather than got rid of the Gentle trait. She likes winning, so she only likes fighting if she wins.
Explicitly untrue - we've overcome our distaste for fighting, to the point where she gets excited seeing good fights, and no longer have a malus for fighting-related actions. Kakara doesn't like hurting people, and has been aware of the difference for several years now.

Or do you actually think we're going to beat this kid into unconsciousness?
 
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