but it will not get us to golden age this turn we get no Stats form A main Integrate
Then we can't get to a GA this turn. We simply CANNOT afford to add another province(remember WOAN is that each new province adds a disproportionately more amount of admin load than the last, and the last province we got from WW put us in the yellow or red for admin for the rest of our holdings)
 
Boat innovation is best done by building docks rather then boats, or at least so it seems from the past. On top of x2 main boats being too expensive for our provinces to do 3 palace actions.

Anyway, I trust our subordinates to take boat/dock actions.

Finally, let's get a symphony bonus.

[X][Main] Grand Palace
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company x2
 
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It doesn't invalidate any of what I said, it just adds the additional problem of Double Integration possibly not even being a thing we can do, and something that would have unknown consequences.


Ah. Sorry. Initially when you said "found another one" I thought you meant a march, since we were discussing march integration. I understand now, and founding two mercenary companies would admittedly solve the problem. Problem with that is that it would be very expensive to maintain. The plan would also tie up a substantial amount of Main actions.


this is the action

Integrate Vassal - Now in contact with the core territories, the lowlanders can be brought more fully into the traditions of the People
*M: -4 Diplomacy, transitions vassal to March or Colony
*2M: -8 Diplomacy, transitions portion of vassal to full province, converts rest to March or Colony
 
Then we can't get to a GA this turn.
Golden Age this turn is impossible anyway. We need to have two maxed stats and maxed Stability for the length of an entire turn. Even a best-case scenario where we get the prerequisites this turn means we have to wait until the turn after next to start benefiting from a golden age.

this is the action

Integrate Vassal - Now in contact with the core territories, the lowlanders can be brought more fully into the traditions of the People
*M: -4 Diplomacy, transitions vassal to March or Colony
*2M: -8 Diplomacy, transitions portion of vassal to full province, converts rest to March or Colony
Well shit, I sincerely apologise for my ignorance. I should've paid better attention to what was in that list. Many of my points remain valid, but in this case I was wrong.
 
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@Academia Nut does the special apply to our subordinate states/vassals as well(not that it's really relevant to the LM :p )or only to our core states? Just asking since while our core states will do MP actions, @Glassware has a point that our other states aren't restricted in what they do and would likely take advantage of the special if they cn.
 
[] [Main] Found Mercenary Company
[] [secondary] New Trails
[] [secondary] New Trails x2

For those double secondary trails, remember to do x2
Adhoc vote count started by VoidZero on Jul 15, 2017 at 7:01 PM, finished with 76918 posts and 25 votes.
 
We're right on the edge of a Golden Age, right? Let's do that.

[X][Main] Proclaim Glory
[X][Secondary] Trade Mission - Trelli
[X][Secondary] Trade Mission - Highland Kingdom
 
Golden Age this turn is impossible anyway. We need to have two maxed stats and maxed Stability for the length of an entire turn. Even a best-case scenario where we get the prerequisites this turn means we have to wait until the turn after next to start benefiting from a golden age.

its possible if you go for my vote
 
this is the action

Integrate Vassal - Now in contact with the core territories, the lowlanders can be brought more fully into the traditions of the People
*M: -4 Diplomacy, transitions vassal to March or Colony
*2M: -8 Diplomacy, transitions portion of vassal to full province, converts rest to March or Colony
Yes, and your point is?
 
[X] [Main] Grand Palace
[X] [Main] Grand Palace x2
[X] [Kick] Grand Palace
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy

Rush palace, with econ expansion to pay for it. Sounds good to me.
 
[X][Main] Grand Palace
[X][Main] Grand Palace x2
[X] [Secondary] New Trails


We need to finish the palace ASAP, there are bloody crises going on.
Also bear in mind that this is a prime opportunity to get the extra annexes, because let's be honest we will never ever vote for them after this. They will be the expand snails or the study forest of old, things that are only heard about in myths. There is always stuff to do, and so no time for extended projects.

It's basically do the annexes now or never, and they're too damn good to cast into the mists of obscurity.
 
[X][Main] Grand Palace
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company x2
[X][Secondary] Study Alchemy
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
Adhoc vote count started by Concho117 on Jul 15, 2017 at 7:36 PM, finished with 76991 posts and 42 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Concho117 on Jul 15, 2017 at 7:37 PM, finished with 76993 posts and 42 votes.
 
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Founding more Mercenary companies seems silly, anyway. We're not fighting anyone, nobody is fighting. They'll just sit there and drain Wealth until the nomads attack at some point.

It just makes our civ more and more war-like.
 
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[X][Main] Grand Palace
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company
[X][Secondary] Found Mercenary Company x2

I'm willing to concede that our subordinates might be better situated to take advantage of the special to boat innovation, and this lets us get our martial down enough that we might have a shot at integrating the STs in the near future while also possibly triggering symphony for Palace.
 
Founding more Mercenary companies seems silly, anyway. We're not fighting anyone, nobody is fighting. They'll just sit there and drain Wealth until the nomads attack at some point.

I want to drain martial to eat ST next, might need another company however.
Sides, i think lowland will start warring. TS and TH counter attack Swamp people
 
Founding more Mercenary companies seems silly, anyway. We're not fighting anyone, nobody is fighting. They'll just sit there and drain Wealth until the nomads attack at some point.

It just makes our civ more and more war-like.
Well, unless you have a better idea to burn off martial so we can integrate the STs, we're stuck founding mercenary companies. If you DO have a better idea, then we're all ears.
 
We need another one to station up north when we found the Northern trade post for a few turns.
Do we even have the periphery slots for both a merc company and another trading post? We just dropped one down by the Trelli.
Well, unless you have a better idea to burn off martial so we can integrate the STs, we're stuck founding mercenary companies. If you DO have a better idea, then we're all ears.
It's called 'The STs are happy with us, enter a Golden Age and THEN deal with their nonsense.'
 
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