pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
We will drown them in grain. No problem.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Austria
Difference between 3 and 4 is a turn, actually.
5-7 base actions +3 = 8-10. +4 = 9-11.
8-10 are 4-5 turns; 9-11 are 5-6 turns.
So either go 3 or 5.
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
- Location
- Bedroom
- Pronouns
- He/Him
... /whimpers/Fair enough again. Damn you and your reasonableness.
[X] [Loc] Redshore
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
Very barebones, but can be done extremely soon. But I fucking will riot if we do not get maxed out library and Glorious Forum added to it later
[X] [Loc] Redshore
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Storehouse
Someone tell me what to do that that I don't need to think for myself.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Because eight of anything is better.Why am I still seeing outrageous action commitments? WHY?
- Location
- Austria
Actually, I should listen to my own advice
[X] [Loc] Redshore
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Library x2
keenscythe
No longer NEET
- Location
- WA, USA
As a Reminder for those who want to put the GP in Valleyhome, the GP is going to be one of our biggest buildings in recent memory.
Remember how Valleyhome has been described as a snakepit? If we put the GP there Some of those snakes are going to have to move while their Villas are being torn down, not to mention having to redo the city streets to accommodate the GP.
While Redshore in addition to having Sea Access and a more central position (So Delegates can reach the King easier and hear appeals) doesn't have the entrenched interests who are likely going to pull a NIMBY if they can. Also I'm fairly certain just focusing all our infrastructure on Valleyhome could lead to problems eventually.
Remember how Valleyhome has been described as a snakepit? If we put the GP there Some of those snakes are going to have to move while their Villas are being torn down, not to mention having to redo the city streets to accommodate the GP.
While Redshore in addition to having Sea Access and a more central position (So Delegates can reach the King easier and hear appeals) doesn't have the entrenched interests who are likely going to pull a NIMBY if they can. Also I'm fairly certain just focusing all our infrastructure on Valleyhome could lead to problems eventually.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
[X] [Loc] Valleyhome
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Library x2
[X][Annex] Storehouse
This looks good.
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Library x2
[X][Annex] Storehouse
This looks good.
Not unless it adds multiple more turns because then it will kill us.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
...I really have to ask, why the gardens and arsenal? What makes them so important to do now?
Likewise, why do we need to add all the annexes now, in the middle of 2 wars, and a tax crisis, and so on? Especially the fortifications and arsenal and double hall expansion? its not even that much more expensive to build them later when we're in a better spot?
My theory is that unless i missed something in the update, it doesn't say that we can add annexes later, AN's only said that in non-update posts...and a lot of people don't read those, so i'm sure some of them think that this is a choice between "have an awesome palace" and "miss out on that palace forever, but do it faster" instead of "have an awesome palace 6 turns from now" and "have a decent palace 3 turns from now, build the rest out when we're not in several crises later for a minor upcharge in cost"
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Thinking on it, there actually is a good reason to build the Palace out to max now: given the evidence of past voting, we'll never actually get around to voting to expand it, because I don't think the thread has ever voted for an Extended Project or for any specific actions (as opposed to general things like Expand Economy or Study Metal) beyond ones to establish the most basic capabilities. Hell, it took us until last turn to get around to doing anything about building a road network instead of trying to administer a large nation via rough trails.
So anything we don't add to the Palace now, we can safely assume we're never going to add at all.
EDIT: Given that reality, I'm changing my construction vote to
[X] Plan Don't Count on the Future to Fix It
-[X][Annex] Great Hall Expansion
-[X][Annex] Shrine
-[X][Annex] Shrine x2
-[X][Annex] Library
-[X][Annex] Library x2
-[X][Annex] Gardens
-[X][Annex] Storehouse
-[X][Annex] Arsenal
So anything we don't add to the Palace now, we can safely assume we're never going to add at all.
EDIT: Given that reality, I'm changing my construction vote to
[X] Plan Don't Count on the Future to Fix It
-[X][Annex] Great Hall Expansion
-[X][Annex] Shrine
-[X][Annex] Shrine x2
-[X][Annex] Library
-[X][Annex] Library x2
-[X][Annex] Gardens
-[X][Annex] Storehouse
-[X][Annex] Arsenal
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- Location
- Panama City
IIRC AN said one of the annexes we pick is "free"(assumed to be the shrine), as in included in the base cost. So going from 3 to 4 annexes wouldn't add a turn, but going from 4 to 5 annexes WOULD.Actually, I should listen to my own advice
[X] [Loc] Redshore
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Library x2
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Yes, but whichever fragment inherits the palace will never want for shinies.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Come on people, we need to place this in the Sacred Forest! The trees are wise and tired of not having a say in Ymaryn policy!
A vote for the Sacred Forest is a vote to end Tree disenfranchisement!
A vote for the Sacred Forest is a vote to end Tree disenfranchisement!
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
As everyone always notes, we're in a 2-front war.
Gardens are just nice in general and if we don't do them now we never will. I guess one could argue that doing them now allows for maximal synergy with the Great Hall, Shrine, and Living Spaces.
Were I voting for Redshore I probably would care less, but Valleyhome is very plant-focused. I would like to continue that.
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[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Library x2
I think staying minimalist is best here concerning we are in the middle of a lot of shit currently, but another library should make the census easier anyway.
Putting it in Redshore would be sort of cool though, so I wont vote for that part.
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Library x2
I think staying minimalist is best here concerning we are in the middle of a lot of shit currently, but another library should make the census easier anyway.
Putting it in Redshore would be sort of cool though, so I wont vote for that part.
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Concho117
Going really fast!
- Location
- Somewhere in Orbit
Meh.
Valleyhome also already has the infrastructure in place to support the palace meaning we don't need to do more turns than we need to.
As to the snakepit remark, having all of the political groups in one place will help ease administration strain.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
[] Plan The trees have SPOKEN
-[] Sacred Forest
-[] Garden
-[] Garden x2
-[] Garden x3
-[] Garden x4
-[] Garden x5
-[] Garden x6
-[] Garden x7
-[] Garden x8
- Location
- Austria
Umm...'Free' one means it is included in our 5-7 actions, not that it does not costs its own action.
So, 'without' it we have 4-6 actions of Palace building and...yeah, you are correct, my apologies.
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
gotta go fast
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
... /whimpers/
[X] [Loc] Redshore
[X][Annex] Shrine
[X][Annex] Library
[X][Annex] Storehouse
Someone tell me what to do that that I don't need to think for myself.
[] [Loc] Valleyhome
[][Annex] Shrine
[][Annex] Library
[][Annex] Library x2
[][Annex] Storehouse
An action effective plan that focus on resolving administration problems without any added fat. (I would add another storehouse but it's not flying.)
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
Unless said palace gets burned down, then we get nothing.
Can you add the [annex] tag to your post. Makes tracking easier. Thanks.