[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 ReligiousAuthority, potential trouble for heir)
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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I've been thinking about this whole business with Religious Authority, and I think that the italicised 3 and the random Authority increases are related, in that 3 is our 'neutral' level of Religious Authority and that it gets pushed towards 3 whenever it gets moved away by events. Although this is mostly conjecture, we know that we got the ability to build the Grand Temple by getting iron tools and not from religious development, but the Xohyssiri have a Grand Temple (presumably through religious development since they have neither a natural wonder nor iron tools). It would make sense that without iron tools, people wouldn't make the large undertaking that a Grand Temple constitutes without a sufficiently strong religion to make people more invested in such things - in other words, Religious Authority. I therefore claim that if we had progressed normally and did Expand Holy Sites more times that we would have unlocked Religious Authority and after increasing it would have gained the ability to build a Grand Temple normally.
@Academia Nut, I also have some questions:
@Academia Nut, I also have some questions:
- According to the description for the library extended project, we have the ability to build a library in Sacred Forest. Is this a typo (in light of the fact we already have a library there) or is this an option to expand the library?
- Can we get another stability raising project if we increase Religious Authority high enough?
- What happens if Econ Expansion goes to zero or below?
- You mentioned earlier that provinces will default to Expand Economy if there are no more valid policy actions. What happens if Expand Economy is not valid?
Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
Given that they're so understanding of the stresses the king is under how would sending no aid be viewed anyway? Feelings of abandonment or would they just shrug and keep on going the direction they've been going?
As a Colony doesn't Western Wall propagate itself more efficiently and expand faster then marches like the ST? Might be worthwhile to let it last longer, especially since of the two the ST have been around longer.
Sorry if you're just poking fun here but there's no reason to insult the negaverse omake writers. They're invested enough in this quest to take the time to write up something for the rest of us to enjoy, not exactly something worthy of scorn.
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
- Location
- Bedroom
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Location
- Sweden
Ah i see, thanks. Going back to fix.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Especially the times that he used them to track down murderers, so political.
Well it could also be due to our Legitimacy being 3. After all what happens when the Religious Authorities are equal in authority to how legitimate people view the government being?
- Location
- The People's Saltern
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- Location
- Source of confusion itself.
[X] [Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X] [Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] [Divine] Speak up for the idea (+1 Religious Authority, other effects)
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] [Divine] Speak up for the idea (+1 Religious Authority, other effects)
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
keenscythe
No longer NEET
- Location
- WA, USA
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
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[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
- Location
- Australia
After this turn, assuming there are no curveballs thrown at us, I think we should go with this plan:
[][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[][Secondary] Change Policy - Megaproject Support
From this turn's actions, we'll be at 7/8-12 for the megaproject by the end of it. Next turn, with the plan laid out above, it'll do 4 actions of Sacred Forest Renewal, taking us to 11/8-12. Odds are that that's all that's needed to complete the megaproject, but when you factor in that Symphony's concerted bonus will be triggered, the province's final Secondary might be Study Forest, and our king has Good Admin? Odds are very good we can finish the entire megaproject just next turn!
If we lose a point of Stability this turn, we should not attempt to patch it up. Completing the megaproject will at minimum give us +1 Stability thanks to Divine Stewards, taking us up right back to Stability 3. That is not to say we should kick the megaproject. There are narrative consequences for doing that, the primary one being an increase in corruption. Kicking should be saved for emergencies only.
[][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[][Secondary] Change Policy - Megaproject Support
From this turn's actions, we'll be at 7/8-12 for the megaproject by the end of it. Next turn, with the plan laid out above, it'll do 4 actions of Sacred Forest Renewal, taking us to 11/8-12. Odds are that that's all that's needed to complete the megaproject, but when you factor in that Symphony's concerted bonus will be triggered, the province's final Secondary might be Study Forest, and our king has Good Admin? Odds are very good we can finish the entire megaproject just next turn!
If we lose a point of Stability this turn, we should not attempt to patch it up. Completing the megaproject will at minimum give us +1 Stability thanks to Divine Stewards, taking us up right back to Stability 3. That is not to say we should kick the megaproject. There are narrative consequences for doing that, the primary one being an increase in corruption. Kicking should be saved for emergencies only.
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Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
So a functionally useless plan then?
It...isn't particularly, though I have no major objections to taking a War Mission there(it does serve the stated political goal), the idea of actively using Balanced is to accumulate the resources needed to switch to Megaproject Support next turn and then hammer straight towards Palace if resources allow. Using the passive Law default generates less resources and has lower tolerances for Funny Random Shit
Hoping for that yes
We can Distribute Land. It's not the absolute poison people are claiming though it's somewhat dodgy, as long as Centralization remains near cap I don't think it's POSSIBLE to even generate the major private ownership abuses, as theres just far too much top down oversight.
Still, the Palace and Census would go a long way towards laying THAT bogeyman to rest.
Western Wall is too large to fully Integrate, we're only pulling off their eastern chunks, but from the actions list they currently have something like 3 provinces internally already.
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- He/Him
Went back over some of the unlinked sidestories, threadmarked two, still thinking on what to do with some of the others.
Possibly.
They would understand, but it would become increasingly obvious to them that they can handle things without the king.
Possibly.
- Sacred Forest is now a True City, you can build a library anywhere you have a temple or a True City. You can thus expand/make another library in Sacred Forest.
- Possibly
- You start hitting Overcrowding. At -1 or -2 you will just be more vulnerable to political chaos and disease, but much lower than that and bad things start happening, most simply being the loss of Econ to free up room (depending on how deep in the hole you are, it may be an unfavourable exchange). If you're low on Econ, this can have obvious bad results as your Economy crashes and you are simultaneously restricted in your capacity to increase it.
- They'll try settling new territory if at all possible
They would understand, but it would become increasingly obvious to them that they can handle things without the king.
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
I think Expansion would be better, but this works pretty nicely too.
[X][Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X][Secondary]War Mission-Northern Nomads
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X][Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
I think Expansion would be better, but this works pretty nicely too.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
General similarities:
Controlled by an elite oligarchy. However, we are extremely honest about it. Communist Russia, despite being ostensibly the people's government, was pretty much controlled by a small, elite group of elites. These men were, by definition, not aristocrats, though. Of all the similarities between Ymaryn and Uncle Joe's Russia, this is probably the closest.
Communal land. Once again, we are extremely honest about this. Even with how we distribute development for mining. For us, it is an ingrained facet of our culture. It is the way things are. People don't generally think about owning the land. Im guessing it doesn't really cross into their consciousness that their land is anything different from the state's land. They are one in the same. In communist Russia, the land had essentially been seized by the government. The people lost their land to the government. The actual workings of the system were entirely different.
Do work, get food, get house, get clothes. We do this. Russia did this. Welcome to hard core socialism.
- Location
- Australia
The only one that was thrown at us this turn was a nomad attack, and that was one we could entirely ignore if we wanted to. Honestly, things have been very quiet since the megaproject started. Aside from the stresses of the megaproject itself, there haven't been any major problems we've had to handle. The overly high Centralisation basically solved itself thanks to some nice decentralisation options and the trade disruption has only resulted in a slow bleed of Wealth when that stat was really high. If anything, the megaproject has reduced the amount of curveballs we get thanks to fucking up our neighbours right hard.So a functionally useless plan then?
Come again? AN said that Restoration gives us the same stuff as Balanced does if we're maxed out on Stability.
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- Location
- Madness realms
Don't want them getting ideas now
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
He said increasingly obvious, meaning some people already have idea's.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
[X] [Main] Sacred Forest Renewal
[X] [Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
I'd like to do a war mission, but keeping it on restoration is inefficient. Having mercenaries do our job as king is suboptimal but probably less than having no doubled up actions is.
[X] [Main] Sacred Forest Renewal x2
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
[X] Red Banner Company - Northern Nomads
[X] [Divine] Speak against it (-1 Religious Authority, potential trouble for heir)
I'd like to do a war mission, but keeping it on restoration is inefficient. Having mercenaries do our job as king is suboptimal but probably less than having no doubled up actions is.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Which is probably true; I expect the Stallions could survive alone.
I guess the key is to reassure them that we can better thrive together. Thus, sending extra military help so they don't just beat the nomads but flatten them.