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[X] Attempt to finish her mother's work
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[X] Begin diplomacy with the Highlanders
Definitely not. It's neither Vassal nor Personal Union, since those are known.
Protectorate is currently the leading guess, mostly because the lowlands are such a clusterfuck of cyclic grudges and war that they would find it difficult to consider the idea of voluntarily submitting to another for protection rather than being subdued.
Main actions that might lead to a new Periphery state being revealed...much harder to think of. Too many options that SHOULD just lead to a variant on one of the current three.
Not necessarily. Previously they were completely fucked because the Nomads coming back down...but the NomadFriends destroyed the horde while it was turning around for another go, so they only have to fight the Xohyssiri while the Xohyssiri are fighting the Highlanders, who are currently busy with the Hathatyn, but because we kicked the Hathatyn in the balls, they can probably pivot back into the fight..
Which means it's less a matter of winning outright and more of sticking their crowbar into a crack and wrenching.
It would be PRETTY funny if the Thunder Speakers wind up breaking off the Thunder Horse cities, who decide to change their leadership now that THEIR leaders have all went to live in Xohy and are now too far from the people.
Actually, I looked up lightning strikes to try to see what caused it:
-Vs Meat - Fan shaped burn scars. Surprisingly little physical damage. People conduct too well.
-Vs Wood - Sap is converted into steam due to low conductivity, causing the surface bark to explode off the path to ground and leaving wood with a zigzagged burn. May ignite
-Vs Stone - Lightning translates the water content in the stone into steam, causing stone to shatter at the point of impact.
-Vs Sand/Soil/Clay - Glass forms at the impact point, along with mild plasma induced charring of organic material.
So it's unlikely to be accelerants, which would leave burn tracks, not shatter marks.
Most likely a sealed kiln exploded when a rapidly combustible substance was heated inside with air, or she was deliberately heating liquids under pressure, causing explosive vaporization of the liquid when the container failed.
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So probably not gunpowder, but still cool and useful. I call it a win.Definitely not. It's neither Vassal nor Personal Union, since those are known.
Protectorate is currently the leading guess, mostly because the lowlands are such a clusterfuck of cyclic grudges and war that they would find it difficult to consider the idea of voluntarily submitting to another for protection rather than being subdued.
Main actions that might lead to a new Periphery state being revealed...much harder to think of. Too many options that SHOULD just lead to a variant on one of the current three.
Not necessarily. Previously they were completely fucked because the Nomads coming back down...but the NomadFriends destroyed the horde while it was turning around for another go, so they only have to fight the Xohyssiri while the Xohyssiri are fighting the Highlanders, who are currently busy with the Hathatyn, but because we kicked the Hathatyn in the balls, they can probably pivot back into the fight..
Which means it's less a matter of winning outright and more of sticking their crowbar into a crack and wrenching.
It would be PRETTY funny if the Thunder Speakers wind up breaking off the Thunder Horse cities, who decide to change their leadership now that THEIR leaders have all went to live in Xohy and are now too far from the people.
Actually, I looked up lightning strikes to try to see what caused it:
-Vs Meat - Fan shaped burn scars. Surprisingly little physical damage. People conduct too well.
-Vs Wood - Sap is converted into steam due to low conductivity, causing the surface bark to explode off the path to ground and leaving wood with a zigzagged burn. May ignite
-Vs Stone - Lightning translates the water content in the stone into steam, causing stone to shatter at the point of impact.
-Vs Sand/Soil/Clay - Glass forms at the impact point, along with mild plasma induced charring of organic material.
So it's unlikely to be accelerants, which would leave burn tracks, not shatter marks.
Most likely a sealed kiln exploded when a rapidly combustible substance was heated inside with air, or she was deliberately heating liquids under pressure, causing explosive vaporization of the liquid when the container failed.
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Or one of tetchy materials that have a low ignition energy.
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If only these distractions stopped - natural disasters, nomads, Xoh, martial heros, trade wars ...
Well, it might be simply heating sulfur or nitrate crystals in a kiln resulting in explosive oxidation.
But I'm current getting the sense that it's about STEAM, because Lolwyna was trying to unify dry/hot male fire with cold/wet female water or something.
So she logically would test it by trying to find a temperature you can burn water at?
Which meant sealing it so it doesn't just escape.
But I'm current getting the sense that it's about STEAM, because Lolwyna was trying to unify dry/hot male fire with cold/wet female water or something.
So she logically would test it by trying to find a temperature you can burn water at?
Which meant sealing it so it doesn't just escape.
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At least the best case for me is if we somehow are able to get primitve steamengine out of it.
Most likely we get some safety standards on how to conduct experiments with dangerous substances and if we are lucky start chemistry.
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Which could have interesting consequences for our mining. I very vaguely remember mining techniques that use expanding water to crack stone.
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If we'd really get a steam-engine, that might help with the mining.
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I really doubt a steam engine. Too many other things we need first.
The Romans had a hydromining technique but it escapes me right now how they did it.
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How anyone considered the possibility that Lolwyna really did offend the gods with her work, and that hey they really did strike her compound with lightning.
Why are people assuming a materialist world here?
Ps: fuck this thread moves fast. It's been like 6 hours since the update.
Why are people assuming a materialist world here?
Ps: fuck this thread moves fast. It's been like 6 hours since the update.
Naw, don't have the metal for it to be useful yet. You need steel that can handle modestly high temperatures without losing structural integrity.
Not very likely at our tech level, but we could make spinny steam toys for now.
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About 2000 pages of text say it's materialist, or so low powered magical that it will take advanced physics to find it.
I very much believe that if that was a thing it would have already happened and we would be dead.
You ain't seen nothin. 'Parently we can make 52.8 pages in a day or about 1320 posts if we really try.
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Because that assumption worked fine so far.
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Bronze couldn't take lowish pressures?
Temperature. Metal softens when heated, so the tolerances for maintaining structural integrity against constant pressure while heated is...difficult.
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Yeah, you can forge bronze from tin and copper at something like 200 C, which ain't really that hot, and when you start going up in temp the material starts going through a lot of solid phase changes(I think) before it finally goes kaput.
Need decent steels, though I think some forms of... cast iron...? Can work as pressure vessels if they are thick.
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Actually it's copper, tin and other various metals - including, in some types of bronze, arsenic. This was already discussed at length - basically, while we do have copper we would need mines for these other metals as well.