Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- United States
[X] [Recruit] Smaller recruitment (+3 Martial, potential additional effects)
[X] [Strategy] Relieve the west
[X] [Library] Free Study Metal (Guaranteed breakthrough)
[X] [Boats] Increase size while maintaining portability
I'm shocked how many people are willing to sacrifice centralization. That's a dangerous move. If we lose an offensive it's not that big of a deal, but destabilizing the country is incredibly dangerous. Also, study metal so we might be able to get better weapons.
[X] [Strategy] Relieve the west
[X] [Library] Free Study Metal (Guaranteed breakthrough)
[X] [Boats] Increase size while maintaining portability
I'm shocked how many people are willing to sacrifice centralization. That's a dangerous move. If we lose an offensive it's not that big of a deal, but destabilizing the country is incredibly dangerous. Also, study metal so we might be able to get better weapons.
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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- Anywhere but RL
Hush! Keep them away from that thought. We are so close to our land
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And there we have why I think we should go for this options. Let's not underestimate nomads.
Also, damn your WoGs can really be as impactful as the updates themselves.
Ugh. That's fair, thanks. (I think I was still suspended from the thread at the point, so eh
).Negative Centralisation is what happened to the very first Lowlanders and, IIRC, the permanent state of being for nomads.
> two nomadic heroes
> iron mine in Stallion lands
> losing is not a big deal
Apparently gifting iron to hostile nomads is not a big deal, hah.
Reread the vote. It's any value except love of wisdom
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- He/Him
Fixed.
You guys have never even discovered the negative centralization governments that most of your neighbours run on for much of their lifespans. Going much lower will force a shift, but Centralization 1 won't automatically blow up your government.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
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- Mists of Albion
Because they forget that trait evolutions aren't always wanted or good
Fair enough. I'd still rather have steel.
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- They/Them
Thank you. Okay everyone, we have word that Centralization 1 will be nasty but not the end of the world; I doubt it will prevent us from using Enforce Justice given this WOG.
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- Mists of Albion
They need to settle and hold that land to actually utilise a good supply of Iron without just using raids instead, it was mentioned in the update as one of the things the king wasn't worried about happening to the Metal Workers
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- United States
And there we have why I think we should go for this options. Let's not underestimate nomads.
Also, damn your WoGs can really be as impactful as the updates themselves.
Ugh. That's fair, thanks. (I think I was still suspended from the thread at the point, so eh
Negative Centralisation is what happened to the very first Lowlanders and, IIRC, the permanent state of being for nomads.
> two nomadic heroes
> iron mine in Stallion lands
> losing is not a big deal
Apparently gifting iron to hostile nomads is not a big deal, hah.
this is an offensive war, not defensive. If the offensive fails we might lose men but will likely still be able to hold onto our lands and mines. If they get their hands on a few iron weapons it's not a big deal. Their current bronze weapons are superior anyway and they're not going to be able to figure out how to make iron themselves.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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the only bad trait evolution was CA making us take people in always, and that's debatable.
All the bad traits we've had were because we adopted them from other countries.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
[X] [Strategy] Drive them south-east
We no longer have Nobility in Humility, we have officially forgotten everything that went wrong the last time we tried.
[X] [Library] Free Study Forests (Guaranteed breakthrough)
Forests! FORESTS! Trust in the trees we all love! Change my name to Treehugger, 'cause I'm not letting go of this any time soon!
[X] [Boats] New design: Emphasize size
Bigger Boats => More timber needed => More forests to keep up production!
We no longer have Nobility in Humility, we have officially forgotten everything that went wrong the last time we tried.
[X] [Library] Free Study Forests (Guaranteed breakthrough)
Forests! FORESTS! Trust in the trees we all love! Change my name to Treehugger, 'cause I'm not letting go of this any time soon!
[X] [Boats] New design: Emphasize size
Bigger Boats => More timber needed => More forests to keep up production!
Unless of course plague+administrative incompetence+the king being away at war forces it even lower. I would rate that as likely.
On second thought: doing the mass recruitment leaves us far too low on econ slots. We'll be at econ 1 with either 5 or 6 slots left. That's ridiculously low, and basically impossible to safely get out of without a heroic admin... and we've got one who's below average.
[X] [Recruit] Smaller recruitment (+3 Martial, potential additional effects)
[X] [Strategy] Relieve the west
[X] [Library] Evolve a random value other than Love of Wisdom
[X] [Boats] Increase size while maintaining portability
Since mass recruitment is far too dangerous due to lacking econ slots, going for the riskiest option is too risky for my tastes. We should thus instead secure the MW and our trading post.
@Academia Nut
Is there any way to tell the provinces to work on a megaproject without spending our main action on it?
[X] [Recruit] Smaller recruitment (+3 Martial, potential additional effects)
[X] [Strategy] Relieve the west
[X] [Library] Evolve a random value other than Love of Wisdom
[X] [Boats] Increase size while maintaining portability
Since mass recruitment is far too dangerous due to lacking econ slots, going for the riskiest option is too risky for my tastes. We should thus instead secure the MW and our trading post.
@Academia Nut
Is there any way to tell the provinces to work on a megaproject without spending our main action on it?
This is going to change it we take the Mass Recruitment option, isn't it? It's basically letting the chiefs raise their own personal regiments, right?
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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@Academia Nut How does Centralization interact with Heroic traits?
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- Mists of Albion
Honour of Elites created an Oligarchy, that wasn't popular or considered good by many
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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- He/Him
Dang, i was hoping i was wrong
Well, at least its not like we'll be super strapped for mysticism in the near future, between the temple and the library... Also, i take i the library wasn't a major engineering project? You've forgotten the canal benefits a couple times so i wasn't sure if this was another of those times or if it was just not applicable