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AlphaDelta said:
We have zero other opportunities to promote Chen to Admiral before a potential Commander, Starfleet vote.

We can delay the change, but we have to act now (or in Q3) if we are to promote Chen.
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We may have opportunities, but I don't see them as as good opportunities as this one. We'd be spending pp to make SDB, SYO, or Tactical full Admiral. Do we want Admiral Chen in one of those slots? I feel we want her in Operations more than the other three.
 
Void Stalker said:
SYO would be keeping her in the current slot. SDB is a possibility if we want to swap the two down the line.
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I feel she's not the kind of person who wants to stay in the same place for quite so long:

OneirosTheWriter said:
Notes
Patricia Chen has privately informed you of her intention to transfer out of Starfleet Explorer Corps Command when the next available Rear Admiral billet becomes available. She is looking to improve her chances of landing a Vice Admiral Promotion.
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SDB is a possibility, but seeing what she brings to Operations seems to have more potential. SDB would also necessitate another shuffle, as Eaton is new to rank and we'd expect her to stay a few years. Seems pretty crap to promote Eaton to SDB then promote Chen over her in 2-3 years. If it's longer, Chen's at SYO for too long.
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)

Shame about Tharvasse but Chen deserves some fresh job that excites her a bit more.
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
The other thing is, most of our double berths are in Sol anyway. This lets Oneiros duplicate Chen's bonus with the Heavy Industrial Park if he wants (and it would make some sense: Chen innovates, then they figure out how to do it as procedure).
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AlphaDelta said:
I don't mind losing the build time reduction. Heavy industry will end up doing something similar anyways.
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Tangential to the vote: TBH I hope the heavy industrial park is NOT like Chen's bonus. Because her bonus is very specific to only builds, and only parallel builds at that. Meanwhile, heavy industry teams have shown a greater breadth of capabilities. At a minimum, the heavy industrial park should provide at least some benefit to all types of berth activity, regardless of whether its new builds, refits, or repairs.
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)

Oh good, a vote that doesn't have Chen in SYO. Sweep away those broken bonii early, thank you.
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)

I can life with the Delay and Start Build wave now that we know it can work.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
Personal Log, Patricia Chen

If that war hadn't ended when it did I would have been well on the way to a complete breakdown trying to juggle commitments. As it is I think I'm on first name basis with every Betazoid in San Francisco.

Computer, End Log
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Yeah, Chen would prefer to broaden her experiences. I just haven't been as on the ball as I'd like about forcing some churn between senior positions.

And since I accidentally made Chen OP I've been leery of the inevitable salt when I take her away :V
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Right, I've been playing Devil's Advocate on Chen for a while, but I do like the idea of grooming Chen for the top job. This just tips me over. I'm also curious to see what OP ability Chen will display in her new job ;)

@OneirosTheWriter, we still need to know exactly how Chen's parallel build bonus will work once Chen's no longer in SYO - for our build planning, if nothing else. We need to know if the Ambassadors prototypes (assuming build time of 29 quarters) will take 22 or 28 or the full 29 build quarters if Chen transfers in Q3.


I'll do a variation on the Q3 transfer vote.

I have mixed feelings on promoting Eaton to Vice Admiral. I'm not convinced by the age argument, and agree with SWB that's it a mixture of career ambitions, time in rank, time in current job, and overall career length that determines retirement age. Plus medical technology advancements will make 70 the new 60, etc. I also like the idea that was floated about the prestigious yet quiet Sol sector command.

I also am uncomfortable with leaving ch'Tharvasse hanging (sorry, "on sabbatical"). He may not have had as much screen time as Sousa, but he reminds me of her in some ways, and is remains useful behind the scenes. I have some doubts he's Commander Starfleet material, but I do think his additional experience would help Sulu a lot.

So, I'm going to vote ch'Tharvasse for the SDB billet instead of Eaton. Now that may not seem like the greatest fit, but we honestly don't know what his prior experience is - for all we know, his stint at Starfleet Intelligence and foreign analysis could've been just as useful as Chen's Explorer Corps experience is to Operations.

Finally, I'm going to abstain on SYO vote, because: a) excluding Chen, I'm ambivalent on it; and b) it would be funny if Chen won both OPS and SYO votes :D

[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)
 
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Since Oneiros seems willing to let us get away wiht playing the system with regards to Chen's bonus and the Enterprise-C I'll be changing my vote.

[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)

Out of interest, is the consensus for the Probert or canon design for the Ambassador?
 
Night said:
Meanwhile, Section 31 initiates the ChenClone Project.
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From: PISCES
To: SAGITTARIUS, GEMINI
Subject: Plan ATHENA

Fellow Zodiacs,

Our plan to acquire time travel data in order to create a stable temporal loop from which to draw a font of Patricia Chens has failed. Frankly speaking, that was probably something of a long shot. Still, the other potential applications we will miss out on stings.

I believe it is time for GEMINI to begin the ATHENA project. As Zeus drew forth a daughter from his own mind, so shall the fruits of our minds draw forth an army of clone Chens.

Regards,

Pisces
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)
 
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Victoria Eaton
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura (in Q3 if permitted)
[X][SYO] Rear Admiral Sirvk (in Q3 if permitted)
 
UberJJK said:
Since Oneiros seems willing to let us get away wiht playing the system with regards to Chen's bonus and the Enterprise-C I'll be changing my vote.
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Yeah...this is why I don't like the uncertainty around Chen's bonus. Heck, I really dislike how it's even a major factor at all with the timing of the sideways promotion.

I'd be happier if the the parallel build speed bonus just stopped when Chen transfers. Despite the huge logical contortions I've seen, it makes far more in-character sense for build speed to resume at the normal rate. It's just ridiculous.
 
I'd use the Probert design, with perhaps a bit of alteration to fit her eventual parts sheet, but that's optional. The Amby is p great as-is.
 
aeqnai said:
I'd use the Probert design, with perhaps a bit of alteration to fit her eventual parts sheet, but that's optional. The Amby is p great as-is.
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Yeah, just about every Ambassador design I've seen has phaser arrays, etc. I've found some orthographic views of Tobias Richter's mesh, so hopefully I can do something basic with those.
(Advantage of working in schools: long summer holidays!)
 
I mean look at this sleek beauty:



Compared to the Canon Ambassador which is fat, angly, and derpy:

 
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