Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- United States of America, Michigan
[X] [Main] New Settlement - Bleeding Cliffs
[X] [Secondary] Support Subordinate - Stallion Tribes
[X] [Secondary] Survey Lands
Why do people want to do expand forests so much I don't see the point?
[X] [Secondary] Support Subordinate - Stallion Tribes
[X] [Secondary] Survey Lands
Why do people want to do expand forests so much I don't see the point?
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The hills north-east of Redshore, west of Upper Valleyhome.
Because fully grown forests fuck over Nomad attacks by being a obstacle they can't move their fucking chariots through. Thus gives us a big defensive advantage.
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- United States
You're just rewording your stance while ignoring the issue I brought up. The forests will be useless if they come back next turn. The marches will likely be ground down to nothing, with our core settlements being invaded. This will result in even harsher capitulation if not outright fragmentation.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
[X] [Main] Expand Forests
[X] [Secondary] Study Forests
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Study Forests
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
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- Hell
[X] [Main] Expand Forests
[X] [Secondary] Study Forests
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
Science needs love too ._.
[X] [Secondary] Study Forests
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
Science needs love too ._.
March will do Chariots and get to Martial 5. We must take care of long term if they are stuck with short term.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
If we plant the forest now and they come back next turn, we will at least have a thicker forest in their way and some econ. If we plant the forest now and they don't come back next turn, we will have a thicc forest as a future defense.
Gives us material for housing, defensive structures and charcoal, helps with the economy, Terra Preta, hunting and gathering, there is strategic value against enemy chariots, and it sends a fucking message.
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- Hell
Oh, so not really something required then?
That's nice. Was one of the worries earlier.
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- United States of America, Michigan
Yeah but expand forests take multiple turns to be an actual hindrance. See how the ST's forests only slightly slowing them down when it was one of their first actions .
Keep in mind that this virtually guarantees that one of our provinces will raid the nomads - it only leaves one econ available for them to build troops for us this turn.I'm fine with this vote, as much as i'd like a bigger transfer.
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- United States
Alright then.
Forests don't grow in 1 turn (full or not)...we've seen this when we planted forests before. A turn passed and the trees were still too young.
@Academia Nut
Does the March get more bonus from Support Subordinate than we have to pay in? Their stats should be worth less per-point than ours, right? (Since otherwise their single province is worth half of the rest of our civ in terms of productivity)
If the above is not the case and we actually do transfer only 1 econ/martial, it's a horrible action and we should never take Support Subordinate manually. It is useful as a free mid-turn action, but there's no reason to do so with our much more limited main-turn actions.
Does the March get more bonus from Support Subordinate than we have to pay in? Their stats should be worth less per-point than ours, right? (Since otherwise their single province is worth half of the rest of our civ in terms of productivity)
If the above is not the case and we actually do transfer only 1 econ/martial, it's a horrible action and we should never take Support Subordinate manually. It is useful as a free mid-turn action, but there's no reason to do so with our much more limited main-turn actions.
When we're actually doing quite well economically and militarily, it's an excellent means of building up a periphery fast. They do need support sometimes. It also lets us drop our military if it's getting too high.
It's just, at the moment we're kinda short on econ and military too.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
Is that if they come or if they don't? While either way, something's better than anything, forests can become pretty thick in 2-3 decades. And even if they attacked right after we finished planting seedlings and scattering acorns, it's likely that the thing poles of the saplings would provide some barriers. Plus we could just dig a shitton of holes and ditches that we plan on putting black soil in, later, but which will serve as barriers against future attack.
if I was the manager of the expand forest action, that's what I'd do.
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Directly defending them is a more effective way of doing the former. (Unless they're not being attacked and yet we absolutely need them to build up immediately)
Setting up a second march is a more effective way of doing the latter unless we're maxed out on subordinates.
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- United States
@Academia Nut Do we have to specify where we expand the forest, or is it going to be done in the Marches?
- Location
- New Zealand
[X] [Main] Expand Forests
[X] [Secondary] Study Forests
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Bleeding Cliffs
Changing my vote because Secondary Proclaim Glory isn't nearly as good as a main, and we'll have enough art to do it as a main next turn with our Diplo overflow.
[X] [Secondary] Study Forests
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - Bleeding Cliffs
Changing my vote because Secondary Proclaim Glory isn't nearly as good as a main, and we'll have enough art to do it as a main next turn with our Diplo overflow.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
where should we expand the forest, if the former? Just ST in general??
