Welp so much for the 4 turn plan someone had...
Didn't even last through the mid turn lawl
Incidentally, nothing on my planned 2 turn schedule actually got derailed, except for the happy coincidence of potentially being able to get the New Trails done now instead of later.
It seems likely, so one would have to clearly demonstrate to the people that there is in fact no link.
...we have to prove a negative.
Okay, this is NOT attainable by knee jerk here.
-We went from "Stone" to "Well Dressed Stone" and "Imported Copper" to "copper" in Materials tech.
Good catch on the materials. Now that we have copper tools we use actual stone blocks instead of stone lumps. Much better constructions.
Also, has it occured to somebody that we might not even have to do anything at all about the situation with the metal,
I mean all we need to do is to wait for next sickness to roll around and off everybody again and then study metals afterwards hope that with us doing metal stuff no sickness breaks out due bad mid term roll, to show them via the proof of observation that these two are not related
Actually, to prove a negative, what you want to do is:
-Wait for disease to be over.
-Start a major metal project while there is no disease and Stability is high.
-Pray for no bad event rolls
-Observance says "No curses happen when you work with metal"
Remember how artisans usually don't get chosen to be leaders because all they did was make pot and whatnot? Now we got an artisan hero AND a woman.
Pretty much perfect yeah.
Apologies for previous, callous response. Actual response, post research:
"Whole-cell pertussis vaccines were developed first and are suspensions of the entire B. pertussis organism that has been inactivated, usually with formalin." Aka yeah, we could just scrape mucus from the back of sick peoples throats, heat it up, and stab other people with needles. Heat might denature some of the antigens/etc., but is unlikely to do so enough to matter - we still use heating up cultures as a standard way of inactivating the pathogen. We could also probably try alcohol if we could get enough to matter. Formalin could maybe be made by heating up methane in an iron oxide-esque bowl but... idk where we'd get methane and it would probably be really impure.
We couldn't give it to super young infants, but giving it to our whole population is more likely to protect these infants from catching it than just letting it run around freely would. If breastfeeding helped, it wouldn't have been a major problem for children who were breastfed by their mothers, who presumably had suffered the widespread and epidemic disease.
@Umi-san
The problem is that unlike the Sacred Warding, we have no means of maintaining a living culture of this disease. It grows only in humans, while mucus works for generating a vaccine from an already sick person it cannot be retained over years.
For that, we need refrigeration.
The problem with the disease is threefold:
-The Superstition - Studying health right now will
not help, Word of AN. When you have false positive confirmation going on, it is
more likely to spread the false belief that even using metal might be affected, because everyone is getting infected.
--This is best resolved after the disease dies down naturally.
-The Disease - No permanent solution for this. We need antibiotics, of which the majority are poisonous or currently unable to isolate. Particularly when almost all major antibiotics originate from fungi and mold, which our people associate with impurity.
--Our best solution at present is to maintain high availability of nutrition and hygiene to prevent secondary infections from killing you. Our rehydrating solutions help with those facing difficulties eating.
-The Refugees - These guys will be bringing more disease in. Whooping cough and tuberclosis have long incubation periods, and infected adults can sometimes be completely non-symptomatic.
--Don't take too many. Quarantine won't stop it unless we close borders entirely.
Why is everyone going for an administrative tech instead of construction upgrade? If we get a construction upgrade, we might get arc, or road construction ability, both of which could help us with Stallion Tribes.
Administrative difficulty is one of the major reasons why we cannot assimilate the Stallion Tribes. We don't have the administrative technology to handle long distance decisionmaking effectively, which leaves them dissatisfied because the central administration is not responsive to their needs.
What a bipolar set of rolls. Literally a potentially run ending belief if we can't stomp it out.
Bit of an exaggeration. It's annoying, but we have the tools to deal with it if we increase imports and trade.
There are two pathways for future actions:
1) Let Margyn achieves a legacy. The bigger her construction projects and the bigger her diplomatic victory, the more we achieve in our fight against patriarchy.
2) Fight back the deliberating belief now. Do not let it cement into the population. Not really efficient since she isn't a shaman.
A legacy is definitely a good one. Salt Gift leverages her high Diplomacy very well I think, as does Trade Missions.
Her Administration would be Dam, Aqueducts and Roads at present.
Due to the disease I'm actually leaning slightly towards going onto the Dam, which costs a maximum of Econ 7, and would further help with the disease by ensuring more stable water supply.
Adjusted since there is a demand, but study health is unlikely to help with any of the immediate problems.
Well, we already know this.
We've maxed out our study health for this tech level after all, barring another Mystic Hero there's nothing to get here.
Given that the mine paid out Art and Mysticism, what do you think?
@Academia Nut
Question: How does this Art and Mysticism boost work IC? Is it that major construction projects will train new artisans and shamans to study how they work, and then release them into general population when done, or something else?
So studying metal removes the superstition, while the health study would be focused on developing a vaccine/cure/treatment for the disease.
I guess a double main study seems like a good idea.
...It's not going to do anything about the disease at present. We have to ride it out before disproving the cursed metal is possible.
Scenario 1:
-Everyone already has the disease
-You study metal.
-Someone studying the metal get sick
-People nod sagely, as expected, powerful cursed metals.
Scenario 2:
-Nobody has the disease
-You study metal
-Nothing happens
-People are confused, where's the curse?
Which is more likely to disprove the superstition?
