The Witch Stand powers (which Magia Record gives a name for; "Doppels") are a result of the soul achieving enlightenment over Hope and Despair. They can confront their pain without succumbing to it, cope with it, and come to terms with it until they can weaponize their own past wounds as a form of empowerment.
...This is literally Persona 3.

Fuck.

[X] Onmur
For now.
 
If we find a Witch Barrier, call Homura and ask her to deal with it, while we keep going?
Homura won't want to leave Madoka, and quite frankly, we don't want her to, either. We talked to Masami and Hiroko about working for us for this exact purpose. Might as well use them.
We don't need to call in someone else to deal with a Witch; we have enough Grief under our control right now (something like 3.501 Witches' worth, I think?) that we can just punch straight through a Labyrinth without appreciably slowing down. Be a nice little reminder to Miss Bennouna of what a horribly OP person we are too.

[X] Tell everyone about Kuroki. If it's OK, try to do a pass by the Old Insdistrial Distrcit and try to find her before going to Sendai.
-[X] If we can't find her (or a nearby Witch barrier) after 30 minutes of searching, brain-call Masami and Hiroko to continue the search. Offer them a favor in return for their help, since cleansing is and always will be free.
[X] Call ahead; ask Chouko if she'd rather you meet her group alone, or if she'd be OK with all groups meeting at once. Telepathy Rin and let her know either way.
[X] Make Speckled Enchantments while flying. Try and make one that'd suppress/hide the Witchy feeling of active Grief, and one that'd cleanse Soul Gems.
-[X] Then try making other Speckled Enchantments for general use, like protections and enhancers. Ask the girls for ideas/advice, specially Nadia.
 
We don't need to call in someone else to deal with a Witch; we have enough Grief under our control right now (something like 3.501 Witches' worth, I think?) that we can just punch straight through a Labyrinth without appreciably slowing down. Be a nice little reminder to Miss Bennouna of what a horribly OP person we are too.

[X] Tell everyone about Kuroki. If it's OK, try to do a pass by the Old Insdistrial Distrcit and try to find her before going to Sendai.
-[X] If we can't find her (or a nearby Witch barrier) after 30 minutes of searching, brain-call Masami and Hiroko to continue the search. Offer them a favor in return for their help, since cleansing is and always will be free.
[X] Call ahead; ask Chouko if she'd rather you meet her group alone, or if she'd be OK with all groups meeting at once. Telepathy Rin and let her know either way.
[X] Make Speckled Enchantments while flying. Try and make one that'd suppress/hide the Witchy feeling of active Grief, and one that'd cleanse Soul Gems.
-[X] Then try making other Speckled Enchantments for general use, like protections and enhancers. Ask the girls for ideas/advice, specially Nadia.

5 witches worth minimum.

We have Masami's, Sayaka's, Homura's, Nadia's and Miki's clear seeds worth of grief. We probably have more then that, but I have no idea where it's listed.
 
Remember speckled enchantments is specifically 'doing it wrong'. It's just a stop gap measure until we buckle down and do it right.
Um, not really? Speckled enchantments are ones where we use our enchantment meta-enhancer to make the enchantment; they can't leave our radius, but they can be copied by Mami (and presumably Bennouna).

"Doing it wrong" is when we just brute-force it with Grief. It's faster, because the meta-enhancer glove that we make takes a few minutes to form, but gives off the Witchy feeling so it's not sustainable.

5 witches worth minimum.

We have Masami's, Sayaka's, Homura's, Nadia's and Miki's clear seeds worth of grief. We probably have more then that, but I have no idea where it's listed.
I stand corrected. Regardless, it's a lot of Grief, all under our control; we could make a half dozen MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGANs and just cruise through the Witch's Labyrinth at the speed of sound without stopping. My point is that we don't need to phone a friend to deal with a Witch, should that be what we find. We could be in and out in less than five minutes, probably less than one if we wanted.
 
Oh, right, we did ask Masami and Hiroko for help.

[X] Tell everyone about Kuroki. If it's OK, try to do a pass by the Old Insdistrial Distrcit and try to find her before going to Sendai. If we can't find her quickly, call Masami and ask her to search for Kuroki while we're out of town.
[X] Call ahead; ask Chouko if she'd rather you meet her group alone, or if she'd be OK with all groups meeting at once. Telepathy Rin and let her know either way.
[X] Make Speckled Enchantments while flying. Try and make one that'd suppress/hide the Witchy feeling of active Grief, and one that'd cleanse Soul Gems.
-[X] Then try making other Speckled Enchantments for general use, like protections and enhancers. Ask the girls for ideas/advice, specially Nadia.

5 witches worth minimum.

We have Masami's, Sayaka's, Homura's, Nadia's and Miki's clear seeds worth of grief. We probably have more then that, but I have no idea where it's listed.
:o

What happened?!

Is something wrong, Mura?
 
Oh, right, we did ask Masami and Hiroko for help.

[X] Tell everyone about Kuroki. If it's OK, try to do a pass by the Old Insdistrial Distrcit and try to find her before going to Sendai. If we can't find her quickly, call Masami and ask her to search for Kuroki while we're out of town.
[X] Call ahead; ask Chouko if she'd rather you meet her group alone, or if she'd be OK with all groups meeting at once. Telepathy Rin and let her know either way.
[X] Make Speckled Enchantments while flying. Try and make one that'd suppress/hide the Witchy feeling of active Grief, and one that'd cleanse Soul Gems.
-[X] Then try making other Speckled Enchantments for general use, like protections and enhancers. Ask the girls for ideas/advice, specially Nadia.



:o

What happened?!

Is something wrong, Mura?

...whoever that girl is in Ishinomaki. Sorry, the name escapes me at the moment.
 
Um, not really? Speckled enchantments are ones where we use our enchantment meta-enhancer to make the enchantment; they can't leave our radius, but they can be copied by Mami (and presumably Bennouna).

"Doing it wrong" is when we just brute-force it with Grief. It's faster, because the meta-enhancer glove that we make takes a few minutes to form, but gives off the Witchy feeling so it's not sustainable.

Didn't say it wasn't useful. It's still doing it wrong.
 
"Cooool," one of them breathes. Kimiko, the girl with light purple hair. "Can I keep one of those little balls?"

"Eh?" you say. "One of the- these?" You hold a finger up, Grief marbles following the movement.

"Yeah!" Kimiko says. "As a souvenir."

"... uh, sorry, you can't," you say, keeping an eye on Hoshiko as the armoured girl cleanses her Soul Gem with a refreshed Seed. "These turn into gas and disperse outside of my control."

"Aw. OK," she says, looking disappointed. Miyako gives her a consoling pat her on the shoulder.

"Hey, everyone, hey Sayaka," you say. "Oh, first - Miss Nakano, here." You proffer the Clear Seed to Mika. "I have to warn you - do not let this touch a normal Grief Seed. The Grief Seed will pull any Grief from the Clear Seed and possibly hatch it right there."

Mika snatches the Clear Seed from you, all but vibrating with excitement. "Cool."

"No, not cool," you say. "The Witch hatching part, anyway."
You know, some people just do not have problems with Evil Suffering Manipulating Powers.


"Eh heh heh, kind of?" she says, scrubbing at the back of her hair sheepishly. You can feel the odd twisting of her magic, little knots trailing off the main body like pendants dangling from a necklace.
Sayaka's magic know about bling.

You pick up Nadia from the spire of the DBJ tower - an easy enough landmark.

The traveller takes a few steps straight up into the air and hops aboard,
Yeah, that's just cool.
 
This is absolutely not the case. The Witches are still the girls. Rebellion demonstrated it literally with Homura and also had Sayaka directly say so. As in, the person with memories of actually having been a witch.

The Witch Stand powers (which Magia Record gives a name for; "Doppels") are a result of the soul achieving enlightenment over Hope and Despair. They can confront their pain without succumbing to it, cope with it, and come to terms with it until they can weaponize their own past wounds as a form of empowerment.

Essentially, how real-life trauma survivors handle things, with magical metaphor.
Wait, as in the mobage?

If it's giving actually interesting new canon I might have to try that out. Is it in Japanese? I can almost handle a Japanese game but English would be preferable.
 
Could I get some more votes?
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on May 6, 2017 at 8:05 AM, finished with 116174 posts and 4 votes.

  • [X] Tell everyone about Kuroki. If it's OK, try to do a pass by the Old Insdistrial Distrcit and try to find her before going to Sendai. If we can't find her quickly, call Masami and ask her to search for Kuroki while we're out of town.
    [X] Call ahead; ask Chouko if she'd rather you meet her group alone, or if she'd be OK with all groups meeting at once. Telepathy Rin and let her know either way.
    [X] Make Speckled Enchantments while flying. Try and make one that'd suppress/hide the Witchy feeling of active Grief, and one that'd cleanse Soul Gems.
    -[X] Then try making other Speckled Enchantments for general use, like protections and enhancers. Ask the girls for ideas/advice, specially Nadia.
 
I'd prefer if we just focus on socializing with our present company, and dedicate time later or on another day for enchantment practice/experiment.

[X] Tell everyone about Kuroki. If it's OK, try to do a pass by the Old Industrial District and try to find her before going to Sendai. If we can't find her quickly, call Masami and ask her to search for Kuroki while we're out of town.
[X] Call ahead; ask Chouko if she'd rather you meet her group alone, or if she'd be OK with all groups meeting at once. Telepathy Rin and let her know either way.
[X] Shoot the breeze with Nadia and Sayaka. Ask them for some recommended tourist spots or restaurants that you could theoretically bring a significant other for a date.
 
SOMEBODY had the best idea but doesn't want to post it in the thread.

So I will have to.

A Sayakaclone Army. Each one with a different power.

It can only end well. :D
 
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