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We had to, thanks to the embargo.
Paths of Civilization
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
The policy is for, as the title says, "Megaproject Support" not "Megaprojects" as the other titles indicate.
Note that it's a nonstandard policy choice derived from Symphony, and thus is like to function differently. A symphony is not all made up by the same instrument of "Megaproject."
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
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- Philippines
So the way I see it we will get an immediate econ boost in exchange for getting small amounts of econ over time it is worth if we get to upgrade our traits the baby boom is bound to end soon anyway so better to end it on our terms.
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
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- Panama City
ok, just so this argument doesn't turn stupid, @Academia Nut if we choose Megaproject Support what actions would the provinces take in support of whatever megaproject we do? For example, the Gardens?
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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My reading of this:
was that it was saying that we, the People, manage a childhood mortality rate (not specifically infants, children in general) of between 50% and 66%, depending on how bad the diseases are each year and how much food is available, etc. The other nations are presumably way worse...hell, a quick googling suggests that its estimated that in 1800, "43% of the world's newborns died before their 5th birthday. ", so assuming we're also counting by "in the first 5 years" we're doing pretty well, frankly
We said that for Central Milling. It did not.
We said that for glazed pottery. It did not.
Its pretty clear: if you want Economy, boost food production. Food preservation doesn't increase manpower in a meaningful manner.
Which, if we go the Stab -1 Restore Order route, has us literally max out Stability the next turn so we can take a new province the turn after.
Yes. Hence going for Garden Symphony one hit
4 for us BEFORE THE Sacred Warding.
Neolithic average is closer to 4/5 infant mortality
WTH "What The Hell?!"
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- Simi Valley, CA, United States
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Share with friendly groups (Chance of other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
[X] Share with friendly groups (Chance of other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
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- United States
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Updating vote, because the symphony bonus with the policy is very nice.
However, we will have to build a new settlement next turn on top of starting the Saltern.
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Updating vote, because the symphony bonus with the policy is very nice.
However, we will have to build a new settlement next turn on top of starting the Saltern.
It came up during the DOOM! event. I'm entirely willing to admit it wasn't a big reason, especially given the "oh shit, people are voting to explode our civilization" mess that was occuring simultaneously. But it was there.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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No, AN specifically noted in the text that central milling contributed to econ, some time around when it was developed.
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Overall population is definitely six digits now, but not sure how much over 100,000 that is yet. Definitely not approaching seven digits yet though.
Priests tend to be much more detached from practical issues, acting more of an interface between the spiritual/divine and other people, while your shamans are very much more in the mould of witch doctors. They have lots of strange knowledge, much of it very dangerous if misused, but they frequently use it for practical things just as often as abstract/social ones.
Right now? Hmmm... the Metal Workers? The Thunder Horse and Highlanders sort of qualify, you only stopped trading with them to keep the other from being pissed off, not because you disliked them.
They would provide [X] Megaproject actions if there was sufficient Econ for it, and Expand Econ or New Settlement actions otherwise.
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- Philippines
It won't be just the econ boost though it would also include a chance for new ideas meaning more innovation and a value upgrade
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- Panama City
Or the Garden. But no matter which one, yes we need to build a Settlement on Southshore, even if that means it takes 2 turns to complete a Megaproject instead of 1(and I can't believe I'm saying with a straight face, goddamn we're nuts when it comes to megaprojects)
We hadn't traded with the Thunder Horse for 3 generations. Nobody considers friends whose last meeting was "they look about to attack us"
...I'll leave this to AN since I won't be believed anyways
Issues mostly in terms of social effects I bet
3 Econ every turn is not small.
Especially when the refugees only provide twice that for a large stability cost.
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- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
I should note that unlike the star-pox cure this is dependent on salt availability and doesn't convey near-complete immunity to our population even if everyone around us is dying. I recommend releasing it to others on some level, then starting on the saltern, the process of the cure driving up salt demand in our neighbors, also to take advantage we should reopen trade in the next couple turns, maybe with new sea trade in the near future, we're no longer deathly afraid of a two front war and trade is important to economic stability and growth.
Also the new province, need to get that before anyone else.
So much to do, so few actions.
Also the new province, need to get that before anyone else.
So much to do, so few actions.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
*sigh*
The value upgrade is the only part that matters. Innovation is great but can be gained from other sources, i.e. actions which we're not spending on improving stability, using the free Econ that we would gain.
@tryrar Kk, you win by a lot. Main Saltern + Kick, Secondaryx2 Southern Shores. Provinces probably Megaproject.
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- Illinois
Huh, that moment when you realize how insane our econ growth and use likely is. Hell, when is the last time we actually did an expand econ vote?
God, we are kinda bullshit. We have econ fall into our laps, while pretty much everyone else probably has to work hard to get it up even half as much.
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- Panama City
@Umi-san So yes, they'll totally increment the Megaproject if we go Megaproject Support. So we should choose that if we're going to do megaprojects.
@Academia Nut if we have Megaproject Support and the provinces do new settlement to boost econ, can they do it as a main and grab a province at the same time, or would they only be able to create provinces if we're doing Expansion?
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- Philippines
3 econ every turn for about 2 more turns assuming we do not expand and the baby boom last that long which the baby boom should end pretty soon it was estimated to end in what two turns ago and we still have it? Plus it is not just the econ boost but also the new ideas and the value upgrades.