- Location
- Hell
I don't see it really necessary since our baby boom is still going. We have 5 right now and 4 turns is plenty to start up Settlements of our own while our provinces help build the Salterns
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
Academia Nut if we go with this
[] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
Will we get the +1 stability before the -3?
[] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
Will we get the +1 stability before the -3?
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I considered it, but decided that I was going to rule that the People basically accidentally kicked their defences and went into an absolutely psychotic frenzy over the idea of defeating the disease, the effort consuming stability but then immediately being rewarded back for the success, making it net neutral.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yes. Technically you also get three chances to activate the Greater Good as well.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
... good.
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
- Location
- Staring into the void
Don't forget doing a Megaproject will give +1 stability on start of the project.
- Location
- Hell
However we still have the baby boom going as well on top of having our two secondaries as well. Thanks to being able to beat back the disease, We are very likely to have zero interference from the lowlands for next few generations.
- Location
- California
Hmm. That does make some sense.
But still, this is amazing. We basically kicked out way through the equivalent of a megaproject in one turn.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Changing to forcible evangelization. We will forcefeed our salt to the dead priests until they praise our names.
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Changing to forcible evangelization. We will forcefeed our salt to the dead priests until they praise our names.
Ooo, I forgot about the baby boom... Still, I want to share this for the explicit reason of getting people to culture convert to us.
I might be talked out of anymore than bare minimum refugees though.
As has just been pointed out, we have a baby boom. The Gardens will also return econ due to divine stewards. We can likely build the Gardens in one turn and then have enough to build the Saltern the following one.
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Whoo. One thing to keep in mind about telling our neighbors about the cure:
We're also implicitly telling them how to horribly fuck up other people with bioweapons, and under the circumstances our civ is likely to take that very poorly.
We might actually have a means to re-earn Sacred War, thinking about it.
We're also implicitly telling them how to horribly fuck up other people with bioweapons, and under the circumstances our civ is likely to take that very poorly.
We might actually have a means to re-earn Sacred War, thinking about it.
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
Saltern has more practical uses, Garden is a proof-of-concept for very advanced city plumbing and such.
Observance's downside is 'I totally saw it this one time, if we keep doing it it's totally happen again'. It's effectively taking the scientific method and automatically assuming every hypothesis is correct before testing it, and assuming you did it wrong when it fails. Considering our shamans tend to be the most obviously mentally different, I wouldn't be surprised if a few schizos or delusionals managed to get into the group, so it could develop a ton of bothersome false herrings and poor practices that we'd have to, possibly violently, burn out of the system.
[X] A significant number (-1 Stability, +2 Econ)
[X] Keep it secret (Chance of Stability loss)
[X] Megaproject Support
I like it. Main with a stab kick on salterns next turn, with double secondary into main GS to pop stability back up a bit.
- Location
- California
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Ok, it's worth it. The Immediate +1 will get us back up to -2, the Megaproject will get us to -1, and we can take an action during the turn to deal with the rest.
Besides, I really want to see if this might be the push finally needed to break the Lowlands. Then we can take it at our leisure.
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
Ok, it's worth it. The Immediate +1 will get us back up to -2, the Megaproject will get us to -1, and we can take an action during the turn to deal with the rest.
Besides, I really want to see if this might be the push finally needed to break the Lowlands. Then we can take it at our leisure.
- Location
- Canada
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
If we are sharing the secret then we might as well go all in on refugees.
[x] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
If we are sharing the secret then we might as well go all in on refugees.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
More casus belli, more better.
- Location
- Philippines
There is a 50% chance of going -2 stability with your plan
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
so like...
[] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[] Megaproject Support
Next turn:
[] [Main] The Garden
[] [Secondary] The Garden
[] [Secondary] The Garden x2
[] [Kick] The Garden
+ 6-8 - 3 = 3-5 + 5 current Econ - Provincial actions
+1 - 3 +x? + 1 Stability = -1? + 1 again if The Garden finishes in one turn.
End result, Megaproject + 0 net stability + whatever the hell the provinces do + 3 Econ, probably.
Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
[x] The whole lowlands are kind of a mess, you know? (-3 Stability, +6-8 Econ, other effects)
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
We will bring good health to them with fire, salt and the sword!
[X] Share with even those who don't want to listen (-1 Diplomacy, +1 immediate Stability, chance for additional stability, other effects)
[X] Megaproject Support
We will bring good health to them with fire, salt and the sword!
- Location
- Hell
Err, with our social trait still up in the air, I'm not sure that sounds like a good idea...
- Location
- California
Agreed. We should also probably do the Dam before the Garden. There might be knock-on effects to deal with, and it will help us deal with waterproofing an the like.
Also, it's been sitting in out to-do list for what must be going on a thousand years at this point.