[X] Harmony
[X] Spirits
[X] Snub Patryn (Chance for -1 Stability)
[X] Ignore them (Anger the Highlanders

I have had it with these uppity heroes who think they know better; I want this Harmony thing be crystal clear to every single Yimmri mofo.
 
The way I see it, even assuming we make the optimal choices: (assuming "small chance" = 25%, "chance" = 50%)

Patryn: 25% chance of max success given correct choices, 0% chance of max failure. 75% chance of a situation we don't like but the state still owns the land and with a Harmony upgrade we should be able to take it away with the next tax reform.

That's as true as North Korea being a democracy. Technically it is, practically, it is anything but.

AN has stated that: For them Land is redistributed to family. To get it out of their hands, the state practically have to seize the land by claiming they're mismanaging it maliciously.
 
HA I knew that point of martial didn't come from nowhere!

Alright people, new tech! I'll tag you @veekie cause I think you'll be interested in this.

Administration has gained!
Written Laws

Authority has gained!
Law Itself

Military Tech has gained!
Chariot Archer Elites

I believe that is all.
 
There is nothing left to deal with the potential econ/stability losses, thus 0.5*0.5 = We only have a ~25% chance of succeeding anyway.

Where are you getting multiplying those two percentages together.

They are totally separate and is does not seem valid to put them together, since there are scenarios of things like the econ loss not proccing but the stab hit does and vice versa?

Can you explain your analysis a bit better?
Even a double main might be enough. Definitely more of a gamble though.

I wonder if:
We do,
Main Expand Econ
Secondary Expand Holy Site
Secondary Expand Econ

Provinces do,
Main Expand Holy Site
Secondary Expand Holy Site

That's four actions of Expand Holy site and four for Expand Econ, we break even and the description of the Policy stuff says provinces will take supporting actions necessary to get things done.

Seem valid? If not why?
 
That's as true as North Korea being a democracy. Technically it is, practically, it is anything but.

AN has stated that: For them Land is redistributed to family. To get it out of their hands, the state practically have to seize the land by claiming they're mismanaging it maliciously.
The point is for our polity- we're not going to affect the march either way, but for us we won't.
 
[X] Make Patryn heir (+1 Stability, Ends the Crisis on his terms [same as father], with a small, conditional chance of actually sorting it out as is [Heroic Admin, Exceptional Diplomacy, Mediocre War, Poor Mysticism])
 
The point is for our polity- we're not going to affect the march either way, but for us we won't.
This is the Tax law for Land under their terms.

The assignment of land management and the like passes down through family lines, although unassigned land is assigned by the local chiefs if a need arises.

Theoretically the community can force people out with cause if they are badly abusing the land they are assigned.

It doesn't only apply to March. It'll apply to us if the crisis ends on his terms.
 
[X] Harmony
[X] Spirits
[X] Snub Patryn (Chance for -1 Stability)
[X] Ignore them (Anger the Highlanders)

  1. Would like to see what Harmony evolves into from tier 1 to tier 2, and ideally, getting back "restore harmony" as an action
  2. We need to increase literacy and we need more shamans for that
  3. If we solve this crisis and Patryn comes around to our view of things then I'm all for making him king, until then, with his dad alive to influence him and he still holding on to the ways his family taught him, I'm not interested in putting him in a position where he'd undo all our reforms and trap us in hereditary
  4. I'm not a fan of the HK and personally, I'd rather support the TH but we're in a crisis and we need to resolve that before anything else.
 
Where are you getting multiplying those two percentages together.
(Given the triple main requirement) We fail if either of them triggers. Thus, independent probabilities: the chance of two independent chances getting a specific choice is found by multiplying the probabilities together. The chance of two heads from two flips 25%.
As to your example- that's equivalent to 2x [Main] Expand Holy Sites except without the art and additional effects bonus. I don't think that's enough, though I could be wrong. (also you forgot the bonus Law upgrade)

This is the Tax law for Land under their terms.
The point is that only the March has that as an integral part of their beliefs. We'll be assigning it that way but we won't have the nomad "Family First" value which makes it so hard to root out.
 
*looks at thread*

Huh.

We already have 8 pages of posts from the update less than three hours ago. Most certainly not our fastest but dang.
 
The point is that only the March has that as an integral part of their beliefs. We'll be assigning it that way but we won't have the nomad "Family First" value which makes it so hard to root out.

That tax law is so god-damned bad, I'd rather eat all the hard choices than swallow that.

Besides, what makes you think the King wouldn't swap out a value of ours for Family First as part of his Kingship? As his father has already done in March?

And 2ndly, what do you rate the chances of this tax reform to remove it, that it will trigger a crisis from revolt?
 
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I really hope we can resolve the crisis soon though.

We have hints that the environmental effects of plentiful rains and a pleasant climate that gave way to a baby boom are about to end. A drought would resonate with the crisis in all the wrong ways.
 
I really hope we can resolve the crisis soon though.

We have hints that the environmental effects of plentiful rains and a pleasant climate that gave way to a baby boom are about to end. A drought would resonate with the crisis in all the wrong ways.
My face if that happens:



Then I slap the dice for being stupid.



Though if you turn that thought on it's head the return of the DOOM comet could be maybe kinda spun as a herald of a "Good Job kiddies!" from the spirits. *crosses fingers for another Bynwyn*

Us in the thread would certainly be happy to have it over with. Plus we are overdue for another celestial visitor.
 
No it's not. We used to reassign land on a regular basis to get the best out of it.

That's how it started but it's not the way it has since grown. Mind you each update is generations long - things do not remain static. I'm paraphrasing AN when I speak about returning to the d ways. The general perception at the moment is that the chiefs/king are greedy and have been hoarding Resources - that's why Grand Sacrifice net us Stability. It was a way to show the People that "look we aren't greedy and honor the spirits!" I'll find the exact quote later.

I think the issue here is with the idea of having a True monarchy - in Centralizing the power in one man/family. But keep in mind that the choice here isn't between democracy and monarchy - voting hasn't even been invented yet. It's the question of doing the will of a few versus the will of the many - I rather get in the habit of listening to the Peoples' voices now.
 
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