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Calling MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGANN "cutting loose" is bugging me a little. We weren't cutting loose, we were goofing off. We did it because we expected it to be awesome, not because we expected it to be effective. Describing it like that should still get the point across, right?
 
Kaizuki said:
-[X] More girls would help limit the property damage, though, which could be considerable, and... You quite like Mitakihara intact.
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This line worries me, because it still implies to Madoka that we need more girls to help us if she doesn't want her home to be destroyed. That's a pretty big motivation for her to join up.

A suggestion:

[X] Remain calm and reassuring.
[X] Facepalm. Wow, that came out wrong. Sorry, your mouth sometimes gets ahead of your brain.
[X] Madoka might have heard Nadia mention Walpurgisnacht earlier. It's a particularly powerful witch that's expected to arrive at the end of the month.
-[X] It's not actually as bad as your smartass comment made it sound. Homura's already arranged for the city to be evacuated, so no one will be in danger.
--[X] Anyway, you have no doubt that the team around this table is already more than capable of destroying Walpurgisnacht.
---[X] But you want to give the girls that are coming here a common enemy to unite them, and Walpurgis is perfect for that.
----[X] Besides, any magical girl who's willing to stand their ground and fight against it to protect this city is the sort of girl we want to have on our side. This way we know who the heroic-minded girls are so we can help them. The ones you can rely on when Walpurgis comes to town are the ones you can trust with a Clear Seed.



Even with this, we're probably going to have move up the timetable on apocalypsebombing and/or Gretchenbombing Madoka to keep her from contracting. (Although this was inevitable, since we told Sayaka about Walpy yesterday and she was bound to mention it to Madoka eventually.)
 
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I've been feeling bugged by this:
[X] Facepalm. Wow, did you just deliver that to her that way? Sorry, Madoka.
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It's... anti serious? Too casual?

I'd rather honestly (on my part) say we forgot we haven't got around to telling this to her yet, instead of... "Facepalm. Wow."
 
Onmur said:
I've been feeling bugged by this:

It's... anti serious? Too casual?

I'd rather honestly (on my part) say we forgot we haven't got around to telling this to her yet, instead of... "Facepalm. Wow."
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In my case, it's more that I either didn't notice that the vote included mentioning it or spaced and didn't realize that we were saying it in front of Madoka. It had been our plan up until now to not discuss imminent threats like Walpy and Feathers in front of Madoka to avoid giving her a reason to contract.

Then again, as I said, once we briefed Sayaka it was only a matter of time before she spilled the beans to Madoka.
 
The Narrator said:
In my case, it's more that I either didn't notice that the vote included mentioning it or spaced and didn't realize that we were saying it in front of Madoka. It had been our plan up until now to not discuss imminent threats like Walpy and Feathers in front of Madoka to avoid giving her a reason to contract.

Then again, as I said, once we briefed Sayaka it was only a matter of time before she spilled the beans to Madoka.
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[Q] Accusingly look at Sayaka
-[Q] You didn't tell her?! OH MY GOSH SAYAKA
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The Narrator said:
This line worries me, because it still implies to Madoka that we need more girls to help us if she doesn't want her home to be destroyed. That's a pretty big motivation for her to join up.

A suggestion:

[X] Remain calm and reassuring.
[X] Facepalm. Wow, that came out wrong. Sorry, your mouth sometimes gets ahead of your brain.
[X] Madoka might have heard Nadia mention Walpurgisnacht earlier. It's a particularly powerful witch that's expected to arrive at the end of the month.
-[X] It's not actually as bad as your smartass comment made it sound. Homura's already arranged for the city to be evacuated, so no one will be in danger.
--[X] Anyway, you have no doubt that the team around this table is already more than capable of destroying Walpurgisnacht.
---[X] But you want to give the girls that are coming here a common enemy to unite them, and Walpurgis is perfect for that.
----[X] Besides, any magical girl who's willing to stand their ground and fight against it to protect this city is the sort of girl we want to have on our side. This way we know who the heroic-minded girls are so we can help them. The ones you can rely on when Walpurgis comes to town are the ones you can trust with a Clear Seed.



Even with this, we're probably going to have move up the timetable on apocalypsebombing and/or Gretchenbombing Madoka to keep her from contracting. (Although this was inevitable, since we told Sayaka about Walpy yesterday and she was bound to mention it to Madoka eventually.)
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---[] But you want to give the girls that are coming here a common enemy to unite them, and Walpurgis is perfect for that.
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That... is a terrible reason to be recruiting magical girls. That's more or less an admission we'd just be using magical girls and walpurgisnight as a tool for unification.
 
Onmur said:
I've been feeling bugged by this:

It's... anti serious? Too casual?

I'd rather honestly (on my part) say we forgot we haven't got around to telling this to her yet, instead of... "Facepalm. Wow."
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That's... exactly what I intended to convey with that line. "Uh, wow, I didn't mean to tell it to you like that. Wow."
 
The Narrator said:
Isn't that basically what we're doing?
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fuck no.

We can probably handle Walpy, but there are no guarantee's there.

Every experienced girl we can have on board improves our chances of everyone (or as many people as possible) avoiding tragedy. Homura's evacuation measures aren't perfect. There are going to be people still in the city. And yes, we're asking these girls to risk their lives to help protect Mitakihara.

I really don't like the insinuations you're implying here.

Also @Kaizuki you may want to take into account Homura's evacuation can get a lot of people out. But not everyone.
 
Muramasa said:
Every experienced girl we can have on board improves our chances of everyone (or as many people as possible) avoiding tragedy.
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Even if that's true, we absolutely cannot admit that in front of Madoka. We'd essentially be telling her that her contract might mean the difference between her hometown staying intact or being destroyed. That gives her an enormous motivation to contract, in which case the world is doomed.
 
Does this wording come off a little more idealistic and a little less realpolitik?

[X] Remain calm and reassuring.
[X] Facepalm. Wow, that came out wrong. Sorry, this wasn't how you meant to tell her, but your mouth sort of got ahead of your brain.
[X] Madoka might have heard Nadia mention Walpurgisnacht earlier. It's a particularly powerful witch that's expected to arrive at the end of the month.
-[X] It's not actually as bad as your smartass comment made it sound. Homura's already arranged for the city to be evacuated, so everyone will be out of harm's way.
--[X] Anyway, there is no doubt in your mind that the team around this table is already more than enough to destroy Walpurgisnacht, if it comes to that.
---[X] But it'll be a little easier with more girls to pitch in. It's a good opportunity to build a team and get girls to work together instead of fighting each others.
----[X] Besides, any magical girl who's willing to stand their ground and fight against it to protect this city is the sort of hero we want to meet, so we can help them in turn.
 
Kaizuki said:
You know, this a suggestion I'm not sure of, because my first thought was basically this plan, just be confident, but, uhm.

We could consider literally facepalming and saying "wow, I did not mean to deliver that to you that way."

Just don't be worked up about it. Just facepalm, call our own derp, then proceed with something more concrete than this stuff that's being suggested. I dunno... Oh, I do know. "Walpurgis -- that's the witch -- is much more powerful than the witches we usually deal with, but the city will be evacuated, and, well, we hold back, normally, a lot. There was this one time, Mami and I cut loose just a little for just a bit -- we built a forty-foot armored mecha with shoulder cannons and everything, and we just walked through the barrier in the conn pod. I'm not asking because I'm afraid of Walpurgis, although more help is always good. I'm asking primarily because the kind of person willing to help with something like this is also the kind of person I want to be able to support, and to be on good terms with. And, admittedly, secondarily, because Walpurgis doesn't hide in a barrier and so minimizing property damage will be difficult."

... Yeah, I'm more happy with this idea than the other votes, though it's largely because explicitly the mecha is going to be much more effective at calming doka, I think.

[X] Remain casual.
[X] Facepalm. Wow, did you just deliver that to her that way? Sorry, Madoka.
-[X] City-destroying, potentially, life-threatening, no. The city will be evacuated on the civilian end, and, well...
--[X] We hold back. A lot. Explain the mecha that we made with Mami the one time, including -- emphasizing -- the ease with which it allowed us to crush that barrier. That was just Mami and us cutting loose just a bit for just a little while.
-[X] More girls would help limit the property damage, though, which could be considerable, and... You quite like Mitakihara intact.
-[X] But we're also interested because the kind of person who would help with something like this is the kind of person we want to be in contact with, the kind of person we want to support.
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It's become clear to me that some people have misinterpreted the text of the vote as compared to the spirit. Because people are coming up and trying to tell me that we shouldn't be talking about the mecha because oh, we weren't cutting loose, we were playing around and having fun and blah blah blah. Yes, we were. If I wanted to talk about it that way I would have said MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGGAN rather than "the mecha." I want to describe it in terms that are more serious than that, here, as I tried to describe in the post that I first put the vote up with. Because it is a fact that we built a forty foot quasi-invincible armored mecha with shoulder cannons and walked through the barrier crushing everything in our way, just as much as it is a fact that we goofed off by building MECHA GURREN ZILLA LAGGAN and giggling over tiro finale shoulder cannons and exaggerated anime-style stuff.

The latter is not what I want to speak of. The former is.

[X] Remain casual.
[X] Facepalm. Wow, did you just deliver that to her that way? Sorry, Madoka.
-[X] City-destroying, potentially, life-threatening, no. The city will be evacuated on the civilian end, and, well...
--[X] We hold back. A lot. Explain the mecha that we made with Mami the one time, including -- emphasizing -- the ease with which it allowed us to crush that barrier. That was just Mami and us cutting loose just a bit for just a little while.
-[X] More girls would help limit the property damage, though, which could be considerable, and... You quite like Mitakihara intact.
-[X] But we're also interested because the kind of person who would help with something like this is the kind of person we most want to support.
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[X] Remain casual.
[X] Uh. You did not mean to deliver that to her that way. Sorry, Madoka.
-[X] City-destroying, potentially, life-threatening, no. The city will be evacuated on the civilian end, and, well...
--[X] We hold back. A lot. Explain the mecha that we made with Mami the one time, including -- emphasizing -- the ease with which it allowed us to crush that barrier. Frame and describe it as something we did at least semi-seriously rather than describing the giggle-fest that was going on at the time. That was just Mami and us cutting loose just a bit for just a little while.
-[X] More girls would help limit the property damage, though, which could be considerable, and... You quite like Mitakihara intact.
-[X] But we're also interested because the kind of person who would help with something like this is the kind of person we most want to support.
 
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[X] Yes. It's called Walpurgisnacht, and it's on the scale of a natural disaster.
-[X] Between the abilities our group has, we can probably kill it without many issues - unlimited magic usage, especially with Homura's ability as a force multiplier, is no joke, and we've taken steps to have Mitakihara evacuated. However...
-[X] More girls would help limit the property damage, though, which could be considerable, and... You quite like Mitakihara intact. Furthermore, if we have a certain concentration of force, or access to certain ability sets... it might be possible to confront Walpurgisnacht before it even reaches Mitakihara and starts its rampage.
-[X] And, of course, we're also interested because the kind of person who would help with something like this is the kind of person we most want to support.
 
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Muramasa said:
Also @Kaizuki you may want to take into account Homura's evacuation can get a lot of people out. But not everyone.
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Oh shit, really? What? Shouldn't that be something that...

Oh fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. Of course, just like any natural disaster evacuation. Oh goddammit. Uh...

You know I'm drawing a blank on how to handle that. I mean... how do we handle that? I don't want to talk about possible casualties in front of Doka, that's a terrible idea...
 
Kaizuki said:
Because people are coming up and trying to tell me that we shouldn't be talking about the mecha because oh, we weren't cutting loose, we were playing around and having fun and blah blah blah.
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that being honest about it being for fun helps underline how broken we are. Describing its specs with the seriousness you did is great, I just think that closing that with some variation on "and that was just me literally playing around" will give the audience a higher and more accurate opinion of our power than describing it as cutting loose.

[x] Redshirt Army
 
Torgamous said:
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that being honest about it being for fun helps underline how broken we are. Describing its specs with the seriousness you did is great, I just think that closing that with some variation on "and that was just me literally playing around" will give the audience a higher and more accurate opinion of our power than describing it as cutting loose.

[x] Redshirt Army
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Not you. Others are giving me that same reasoning -- that it was just for fun -- as a basis for saying that the whole idea is stupid. So, I dunno, I quite disagree with them and felt that a clarification was in order.
 
Redshirt Army said:
-[X] More girls would help limit the property damage, though, which could be considerable, and... You quite like Mitakihara intact. Furthermore, if we have a certain concentration of force, or access to certain ability sets... it might be possible to confront Walpurgisnacht before it even reaches Mitakihara and starts its rampage
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I like the idea of suggesting that having more girls and their unique powers might let us keep Walpurgis from ever reaching us, but I'm still troubled by the idea of saying anything that suggests that having more help could determine whether the city is destroyed. It could make Madoka think that her contract could be necessary to save her home.
 
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OK, ideas for wording.
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[X] Be apologectic for letting Madoka find about it this way, but reassuring that we've got things under control.
[X] Yes. It's called Walpurgisnacht, and it's on the scale of a natural disaster.
-[X] Between the abilities our group has, we can probably kill it without many issues - we've got us providing infinite magic, Mami Tomoe, and she knows what Homura can do. And we've got high hopes for Sayaka.
-[X] The problem would be the collateral damage. With out Grief powers, we could kill Walpurgisnacht alone, but the damage to the city would be considerable.
-[X] Homura's taken care that the city will be evacuated before the fight, but you want Mitakihara intact. If possible, you want to kill Walpurgis before it even gets here. That means we need more help, and... the kind of magical girls that would turn up for this? Those are the kind of people we want to support the most.
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I think we can keep this entirely vague. Madoka knows, we'll just have to explain Homura's power to Sayaka later, with Homura's consent.

Include Sayaka on this (and Mami, she's a big deal).

A boast? Might be appropriate in order to look in control, and I don't think it's a lie.

I think we can and should point out how Homura's doing this.
 
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Building quasi-invincible forty-meter war robots for shits and giggles is a bigger statement of our power than any seriousface would be. Same principal as "For me, it was Tuesday".

On the topic of people not evacuating... eh, let's just ignore it. It goes in the same bucket as the part where we can't save every building in Mitakihara - even if we kill Walpy in seconds flat, she'll still take out a few buildings just in the process of spawning.
 
Onmur said:
doka knows, we'll just have to explain Homura's power to Sayaka later, with Homura's consent.
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:facepalm:

For the second time, Sayaka already knows. We told her yesterday.

Fuck it, I'm gonna go look for and quote the post where we told her.

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"As far as I know, that's as much as she did before we caught her," you say. "I'm calm now, Sayaka. Homura's power is to stop time."
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Vebyast said:
On the topic of people not evacuating... eh, let's just ignore it.
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There's no reason for us to bring up the possibility of an incomplete evacuation in front of Madoka. And if we need to, we can use timestop to remove anyone who stays behind ourselves before the action starts.
 
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... Sudden doubt, would going "we've got Mami Tomoe, Walpy won't know what hit her," be an OK thing to do? Has Mami regained enough confidence/self-worth/happiness/whatever to not react like... when was it, that time at Oriko's? Basically, at some point Mami would've reacted to this thinking we want her only for her skills.

Do we think she's better now? Well, yes, but better enough?
 
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Onmur said:
... Sudden doubt, would going "we've got Mami Tomoe, Walpy won't know what hit her," be an OK thing to do? Has Mami regained enough confidence/self-worth/happiness/whatever to not react like... when was it, that time at Oriko's? Basically, at some point Mami would've reacted to this thinking we want her only for her skills.

Do we think she's better now? Well, yes, but better enough?
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Expressing confidence in Mami wasn't the problem. It was that we overdid it and made it sound like we only wanted her with us because of her skills instead of for her company.

After all the snuggling over the past week and the kiss on the cheek earlier, I don't think there will be any danger of her ever thinking that again.

Anyway, we've been talking up how amazing she is on a regular basis since then. We'll just sound like a proud, somewhat-smitten girlfriend. :cool:


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...but you want Mitakihara intact.
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Again, it's not a good idea to make Madoka think that her hometown is in danger of being destroyed unless we can get enough girls to join us. It might get her thinking that her contract could make the difference between keeping or losing her home.
 
Onmur said:
... Sudden doubt, would going "we've got Mami Tomoe, Walpy won't know what hit her," be an OK thing to do? Has Mami regained enough confidence/self-worth/happiness/whatever to not react like... when was it, that time at Oriko's? Basically, at some point Mami would've reacted to this thinking we want her only for her skills.

Do we think she's better now? Well, yes, but better enough?
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She hasn't reacted like that any of the other times we mentioned how amazing she is. I'm pretty sure that was just a fluke of phrasing and context. That aside, though...
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"I won't be hurt," she says. She reaches up to cup your face, golden eyes glowing with utter trust. "And you'll catch me if I don't succeed."
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Yes, I do think she's better enough.
 
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