Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Or possibly PTSD.
You say this in a casual way, like we could easily do it with little or no consequence.
Have you, by any chance, missed the Antimatter omake/warning?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Excuse me, I think you meant:
[Q] Yes, it's called Walmart Night.
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I tend to come up with ideas under the assumption that people will only make them happen if they would be optimal. If there were another option then i would like to see my ideas as far away from things i value as they can get. If there were no other option then i would like my ideas as close to the thing that made the situation that way. Am i being understandable?
As a matter of fact no. But i can't just not look it up after you called it something like that, now can i?
Muramasa
Best Girl
I think we need to boast a little. Plenty of us are confident that Walpurgis won't be the biggest of our problems, and that needs to show here.
Since Oriko came up, we also have her word that we can kill Walpurgisnacht, any Witch, really. When the precog talks like Walpy will be a footnote, we've got bigger things to worry about, fimti?
[X] Show confidence.
-[X] Yep. And we're going to kill it. Truthfully, you'd give yourself decent odds against Walpurgisnacht, and with the four of you together, you're sure you'll win. The problem is, Walpurgis fights by throwing buildings, so you need to kill her as quickly as possible.
-[X] So you figure, why attack with just the four of you? Why not have ten, why not have dozens of magical girls ready to hunt down that Witch as soon as it shows its face?
-[X] Share the fact Homura will evacuate the city, so it's not lives you're worried about.
[X] Back to Nadia. So now we've got quite a few magical girl names to find and recruit; you're asking because you want more. You want overkill, fimti? If she can help you get any and every magical girl able and willing to fight Walpurgis together, you'd be quite grateful.
Please don't use a persons own accent. It can come off as mocking that person.
So basically, keep throwing ideas at the thread, and see which one we gobble up?
I dunno. If 90% of the stuff I suggest equates to "we should totally break the space-time continuum for reasons", and without explaining how it's gonna be possible or even a legit reason to do it, I won't be surprised if all of my posts get summarily dismissed.
When did this become the plan? Does Homura know?
Overconfidence is just as bad as underconfidence here. Homura does not want Madoka to contract, so we shouldn't imply that her contracting would be needed/helpful in order to fight Walpurgisnacht. But at the same time Homura has never even come close to defeating Walpurgisnacht in 100 timelines, so trying to pretend that it's not dangerous or that we don't want to recruit other magical girls to help would also be bad.
Note that we do at know that we can defeat Walpurgisnacht:
But I am not sure that our current abilities will be sufficient to defeat Walpurgisnacht without collateral damage.
[x] Explain about Oriko's predictions that we would defeat Walpurgisnacht, but note that she did not specify exactly how that victory would occur nor that it would be without collateral damage to the city. So we want to weight the odds in our favor as much as possible.
[x] Explain what we know about Walpurgisnacht and ask if Nadia knows any more.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Homura's the one who told us.
Do you really want to tell Homu you're trusting Oriko on this?
EDIT: Edited out the 'fimti?' from my vote.
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When was that? I can't find it. Did she mean that she's going to evacuate the entire city of everyone who lives there? Or did she just mean that she's going to evacuate Madoka (and maybe her closest family and friends)?Homura's the one who told us.
As opposed to saying that we can beat Walpurgisnacht based on unsubstantiated optimism? Yes. Homura doesn't deny that Oriko has predictive powers, she is simply cautious about Oriko's ulterior motives. Simply saying that Oriko predicted that we can beat Walpurgisnacht shouldn't trigger that paranoia. Especially when you include qualifiers like "we don't know exactly how we're going to beat it" and "we don't know if we can prevent collateral damage".
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The Narrator
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She's hacked the National Weather Service to issue a hurricane evacuation warning to the city.
Are you talking about canon? Because I always thought that there was an actual hurricane that accompanied Walpurgisnacht (there was inclement weather at the very least). And people didn't evacuate the city, they simply went to shelters within the city. Shelters which would not provide perfect protection from Walpurgisnacht. Note that Madoka walked out to where Homura was confronting Walpurgisnacht, so she can't have been too far away.
The Narrator
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I'm talking about PMAS.
It's the fourth result if you search the story only thread for the word "hacking".
Thanks, I was using google search and apparently that was insufficient in this case.
Well then, it looks like the city will be evacuated (at least to some extent). Although "[] Share the fact Homura will evacuate the city, so it's not lives you're worried about." is still a weird way to say that because Homura is not personally evacuating people, which is what that sounds like. Also, even with an evacuation people's lives will still be at risk (people who refused to evacuate, people who are still too close even after evacuating, and people who could die because of complications afterwards due to infrastructure damage).
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
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Then we'll have wasted no time. It's not a problem.
If that happens we can fall back on plan B of using our wish to hijack Walpurgisnacht's grief. It doesn't have any grief-independent powers, so there's only so much it can do.
And if that doesn't work for some reason then there's plenty of ways to play into the whole drama thing. We could undermine it by breaking her fourth wall, play along by being super dramatic, try to turn it around by making Walpurgisnacht the focus of the tragedy.
Or we could do any number of other plans everyone has proposed, but there's no reason timestop barrage shouldn't be plan A.
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Unfortunately, we know that Walpurgisnacht is still damage resistant (at the very least) even when the fight is dramatic. Homura launched a truck off of a ramp to explode in her face, which is just about the most dramatic attack I can imagine (not to mention the emotional component of the drama which comes from Homura's desperate desire to protect Madoka). But unfortunately, the attack appeared to do no damage. I suspect that making an attack "dramatic" is not enough to cause it to be damaging. If drama comes into the picture, it will probably require something like stealing a role in Walpurgisnacht's play and outperforming her or picking a role that can "defeat" her within the context of the play or something like that.
Unless Walpurgisnacht does have time powers. We haven't seen her use anything like that before, but there are no guarantees. Still, I agree that this should be plan A. But the more people we can recruit to help with this plan (e.g. girls who can enhance other people's powers, girls who can weaken an enemy, girls who have attacks that are more damaging than Mami's, girls who have attacks with exotic effects, etc), the better.
This is a good plan B. But when Sabrina takes grief from other Witches, they do fight her for control over it and it's possible (or even probable) that Walpurgisnacht will be able to prevent Sabrina from stealing her Grief.
Do Homura or Nadia know more about Walpurgisnacht so that we can figure out how the Stage Witch's drama powers work?
I would also like to propose a plan C (or D or an addendum to the other plans) where Sabrina creates a Barrier and pulls Walpurgisnacht into it.
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Clearly Walpurgisnacht doesn't like plagiarism. Homura stole that attack from Live Free Or Die Hard.
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There is literally nothing that supports that Walpurgisnacht has "lolno" invulnerability powers or "drama" powers. She's just a Witch who has been absorbing other Witches for a very long time as shown by her card stating, "The witch's mysteries have been handed down through the course of history,". She's been absorbing Witches and getting stronger throughout many many years, which probably explains why she can outright throw buildings and is extremely durable at this point in time.
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Yep. My life in a nut shell. Besides: It's not ninety percent. I also had some ideas about playing Large Hadron Collider with souls.
Because of how rarly i say things here that needs to put non-"We shouldn't forget that we can just go "Fuck everything. I'm Blue Screen Of Death-ing the universe"" ideas at something higher then ten percent. I mean i know that having the reason be "reasons" doesn't hold much water, right up until those reasons to follow through with the plan actually become reasons to do something.
I mean that normally makes people either come to me for a Plan Z or to watch the train wreck that is my suggestions, which is alright with me. Would you believe that at some points i need to be the voice of reason in a room? I mean i came up with a plan to hold a moon hostage, and people came back to it as a better alternative to the situation. So yes; I know i am insane, but that doesn't mean that i can't come up with a effective plan when one is needed.
P.S: Thank you for linking me to the omaka. I already found it, but thank you anyway.
Case in point: I think that we should see if we can use white phosphorus napalm on Walpurgisnacht at some point in addition to the fuel trucks people are talking about as not being enough to take her down.
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Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
[X] Show confidence.
-[X] Yep. You're going to kill it. Mami and Homura, even Sayaka, are all roughly as bullshit as you. It was dead the moment it decided to come to Mitakihara.
-[X] But if you're already going to be collecting magical girls, why not kill two birds with one stone? This should bias toward more heroic girls, and, well...
-[X] Why attack with just the four of you? Why not have ten, why not have dozens of high-tier magical girls ready to kill it to death the instant it pops up? There's no such thing as overkill. There's only "open fire" and "I need to reload".
-[x] The city will be evacuated - thanks, Homura - but you still want to minimize property damage.
-[X] Yep. You're going to kill it. Mami and Homura, even Sayaka, are all roughly as bullshit as you. It was dead the moment it decided to come to Mitakihara.
-[X] But if you're already going to be collecting magical girls, why not kill two birds with one stone? This should bias toward more heroic girls, and, well...
-[X] Why attack with just the four of you? Why not have ten, why not have dozens of high-tier magical girls ready to kill it to death the instant it pops up? There's no such thing as overkill. There's only "open fire" and "I need to reload".
-[x] The city will be evacuated - thanks, Homura - but you still want to minimize property damage.
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OH. MY. MADOKAMI. I JUST REALISED THAT IF WE MANAGE TO GET MEMORIES ONTO GRIEF WE COULD GET A PICTURE OF THAT TIME THAT MAMI TRIED TO DO THE HOMURA HAIR-SWISH.
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D...did we just fuck up by mentioning Walmart?
Why!? Everything was going perfectly!
Why!? Everything was going perfectly!