Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Sayaka and The Seyikus. 
Gadjo
Doka
The reason I was so dismissive of enchantments for protecting our loved ones is because I can't even think of a mechanism by which a simple enchantment could protect them. I mean, if they know our names and have access to public records, they know who they are. And we suck at enchantment. I can't think of a way that Mami's powers could make a fast, simple enchantment that would have any effect.
Could stand to make something that will make Madoka less squishy.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Aki from Ishinomaki's got clone powers, too.
Gadjo
Doka
How? How would either power make Madoka less squishy? We could make her grief armor, but that would require controlled grief outside our range, which I'm convinced isn't possible, and even if you think it is it would require far more research time given the meeting's today.
Lone Courier 6
Devilish Fool
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Now I could be wrong, but couldn't Sayaka copy Kyoko's powers ANYWAY?...I mean just because Kyoko can't use them, doesn't mean Sayaka can't.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Use cases. We're not looking for something that'd stonewall a team of Meguca intent on focusing Madoka down. If that kind of threat comes up, we stop reacting and we start acting. No, we're looking for something that'd keep someone alive for the three seconds it takes to telepathy Homura and get a timestop. More of a general precaution to calm Homura down and in case something goes really seriously sideways and Feathers pulls some left-field shit. Eyes I think didn't use the right idea - this is less like locking your door and more like wearing shoes.
Given that use case, I think that there are some quick-and-dirty enchants that'd get us most of the way there. The same "In case of danger, activate shield bubble" enchantment we're thinking of for ourselves for the upcoming trip, for example.
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The Narrator
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A Dune-style shield (forcefield that only reacts to high-velocity objects) to protect against ranged attacks has been suggested.
It may be that we don't have time to do it right now, but that doesn't mean that we don't need to prepare contingencies, and sooner rather than later. You can't wait until you're already in danger to prepare for danger. That's like waiting until the car is already crashing to put on your seatbelt.
She likely can. As I understand it, the block on Kyouko's powers is purely psychological.
After the metabomb.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
No mechanical reason that Sayaka can't use her powers. It's more psychological - Kyouko lost that power because she rejected her wish, and we don't want to remind her of that. Leave it for after we help her come to terms with it and she's regained her power for herself.
Gadjo
Doka
Uh. Both of those things sound like they would require witch grief enchantments which take a little bit to make IIRC. And a high-velocity shield sounds more difficult than regular stuff. More importantly, why Madoka? She has no obvious connection to any of us beyond friend, and she can telepathy Homura for help at the drop of a hat. I think it's just a bit paranoid and unnecessary. We haven't even talked to her yet- why would she immediately open with kidnapping and coercion when she doesn't even know it's needed?
Besides, we'd need to make several rings like that to protect all obvious targets, and it'd be difficult to explain to all the out of the loop parents why they really shouldn't take this ring off in such a small amount of time.
Besides, we'd need to make several rings like that to protect all obvious targets, and it'd be difficult to explain to all the out of the loop parents why they really shouldn't take this ring off in such a small amount of time.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
I think that extending it to parents is kind of iffy, yes. I'm thinking Kyousuke, Madoka, Hitomi, and Nagisa. I also agree that we're not making them right now; that's crazy talk and if someone was suggesting that then they're crazy. These are more of a thing to do while Mami's at school and we have nothing better to do.
Giving one to Madoka is partially about comforting Homura. It won't entirely stop her from worrying constantly and sleeping in trees, but it should let just a little bit of the stress off, and over time that adds up.
The high-velocity shield is not what I'd go for either. Homura and Mami are pretty much the only meguca around that use high-velocity projectiles instead of magical projectiles, frickin lasers, or swords, none of which will be stopped by a Dune-style shield. Just have something that puts up a bubble if the user is in danger. Especially if we get some assistance from Oriko working within her domain, the danger-sense element should be extremely straightforward. I'd prefer a teleport over a shield, but that's probably harder to do. A pulse of anti-magic might be another reasonable effect to grab.
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We don't need to psyche ourselves out on time; @Firnagzen is good enough at doing that for us. I've already asked if we have time to make the enchantment griefhax thing, and no response, so I'm assuming for now that we can:
[X] WAFF more with Mami. Drop a comment about angels because wings. Those wings are awesome.
[X] Bring up your idea about how Mami's magic is about connections, and tandem magic between you and her possibly letting you keep all your friends' soul gems cleaned at all times.
[X] Kiss Mami on the cheek when you land. She's the best.
[X] Undertake whatever preparations are needed for the meeting, then look to practice enchantment with Mami.
-[X] Priority is basic safety enchantments. Make the enchantment enhancer, and enchant the following "speckled" enchantments:
--[X] Danger sense (possibly in an earring?)
--[X] Reactive shield (possibly in a broach?)
--[X] Lie/deception detector (possibly in the other earring?)
-[X] If Mami has time, have her try to copy one/all of these enchantments, and make copies for her of any that she doesn't have time to make.
[X] If Mami has other ideas for how to spend the time instead of that, go along with them.
[X] WAFF more with Mami. Drop a comment about angels because wings. Those wings are awesome.
[X] Bring up your idea about how Mami's magic is about connections, and tandem magic between you and her possibly letting you keep all your friends' soul gems cleaned at all times.
[X] Kiss Mami on the cheek when you land. She's the best.
[X] Undertake whatever preparations are needed for the meeting, then look to practice enchantment with Mami.
-[X] Priority is basic safety enchantments. Make the enchantment enhancer, and enchant the following "speckled" enchantments:
--[X] Danger sense (possibly in an earring?)
--[X] Reactive shield (possibly in a broach?)
--[X] Lie/deception detector (possibly in the other earring?)
-[X] If Mami has time, have her try to copy one/all of these enchantments, and make copies for her of any that she doesn't have time to make.
[X] If Mami has other ideas for how to spend the time instead of that, go along with them.
The Narrator
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Magical projectiles and lasers would fall under the aegis of "high-velocity" (even if lasers aren't projectiles... so I guess it would be high velocity and intense energy emissions). In Dune, even most melee attacks were fast enough to be blocked by the shields. The reasons to make it based on velocity are a) so that things like normal, non-threatening contact and air can still get through okay, and b) because that's a clear-cut definition. I have my doubts about the "danger sense" idea, because how does the enchanted item determine what is and isn't danger? Can it differentiate between a thrown rock and a dodgeball? If Junko pours tequila shots, will it register that as an attempted poisoning? It seems like that would essentially require some degree of precognition, which is one of the few things that we explicitly can't do.
As for when to make these things, we're going to have time to kill during these long Mobile Oppression Fortress flights to Ishinomaki and Sendai.
I just realized that it's been nearly a day and hacker girl hasn't gotten back to us. Unless she tried while we were in the privacy field and couldn't get through. In which case, Ishinomaki might think we suddenly died or something.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
I'm actually wondering if we should reorder these. I don't want to... mix the business-y things in right now. We'll have plenty of time to theorize about magic when we get home. Let's just enjoy the flight.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
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I kind of agree. Group the discussion of magical theory with the enchantment practice, and leave the flying as a purely WAFF moment.
Done on my end:
[X] WAFF more with Mami. Drop a comment about angels because wings. Those wings are awesome.
[X] Kiss Mami on the cheek when you land. She's the best.
[X] Bring up your idea about how Mami's magic is about connections, and tandem magic between you and her possibly letting you keep all your friends' soul gems cleaned at all times.
[X] Undertake whatever preparations are needed for the meeting, then look to practice enchantment with Mami.
-[X] Priority is basic safety enchantments. Make the enchantment enhancer, and enchant the following "speckled" enchantments:
--[X] Danger sense (possibly in an earring?)
--[X] Reactive shield (possibly in a broach?)
--[X] Lie/deception detector (possibly in the other earring?)
-[X] If Mami has time, have her try to copy one/all of these enchantments, and make copies for her of any that she doesn't have time to make.
[X] If Mami has other ideas for how to spend the time instead of that, go along with them.
[X] WAFF more with Mami. Drop a comment about angels because wings. Those wings are awesome.
[X] Kiss Mami on the cheek when you land. She's the best.
[X] Bring up your idea about how Mami's magic is about connections, and tandem magic between you and her possibly letting you keep all your friends' soul gems cleaned at all times.
[X] Undertake whatever preparations are needed for the meeting, then look to practice enchantment with Mami.
-[X] Priority is basic safety enchantments. Make the enchantment enhancer, and enchant the following "speckled" enchantments:
--[X] Danger sense (possibly in an earring?)
--[X] Reactive shield (possibly in a broach?)
--[X] Lie/deception detector (possibly in the other earring?)
-[X] If Mami has time, have her try to copy one/all of these enchantments, and make copies for her of any that she doesn't have time to make.
[X] If Mami has other ideas for how to spend the time instead of that, go along with them.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
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- Somewhere Offscreen
That's the case with Godwinson's vote, too. The only difference is whether we use any spare time we might have to try enchantments or to repair the table. If we wind up dealing with a freaked-out Mami or don't have the time, then we won't get to do either task.
Given a choice of possibly repairing the table (not something we'll probably need today) or possibly being better prepared for things going wrong today... I'll take the latter.
[x] TheEyes
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[x] Godwinson
No need to overcomplicate things. We're doing too much of that already anyway.
No need to overcomplicate things. We're doing too much of that already anyway.