Not gonna hesitate to gloat if y'all end up regretting it through.

You are already gloating about gloating in case we regret giving the boot to a bunch of egotistical, brainless (seriously, Max as a singular Toon who never finished school got a higher Learning than *The entirety of them*) Assholes who could only demand their brilliance be pandered to without ever saying *what exactly* would "be worthy of their semi-divinity"...seriously, in RL that kind of behaviour coupled with their generally low use would have gotten them fired long before anything like in this interlude could have ever happened.

So comparetively speaking, we´ve actually been shockingly considerate towards them.
 
[x] Attempt to arrest LOVEMUFFIN

Simply because it has already been noted that they've been willing to sabotage us already, and when failure comes knocking on their doors they blame everything but themselves for it.

Plus it should give Monogram and his organization enough motivation to get up and running next turn and 'Put a Stop to it!'
 
Just gonna ignore the first part since I'm on my phone and not gonna bother to reply, but:
brilliance be pandered to without ever saying *what exactly* would "be worthy of their semi-divinity".
I mean, how is that any different than, say, Hego? We didn't take the perform supervillainy action way back when because people were pandering to the good guys.

And we could easily have them perform supervillainy or something. We know the wacky shit they like, we just haven't put them on anything like that.
seriously, in RL that kind of behaviour coupled with their generally low use would have gotten them fired long before anything like in this interlude could have ever happened.
First off: I don't know why you're trying to make an argument using IRL logic about employing a bunch of Mad Men in a setting where there is literally something known as the Toon Force.

And they've been incredibly useful, as one poster has already gone over and you either didn't read or decided to ignore.

And if you wanna fire them after this is all over, fine. But at the end of the day we'd be firing them for them doing what we asked of them, which is in general just a really disingenious and shitty thing to do.

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and when failure comes knocking on their doors they blame everything but themselves for it.
The irony is palpable.
 
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And if you wanna fire them after this is all over, fine. But at the end of the day we'd be firing them for them doing what we asked of them, which is in general just a really disingenious and shitty thing to do.
I mean, I actually agree with you on that front. We did ask them to do it, and the blame is partially on us. However, we didn't mean for this to happen, and so much damage has been caused that I don't think we can afford to let them off completely.
 
And they've been incredibly useful, as one poster has already gone over and you either didn't read or decided to ignore.

And if you wanna fire them after this is all over, fine. But at the end of the day we'd be firing them for them doing what we asked of them, which is in general just a really disingenious and shitty thing to do.

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The irony is palpable.

Yes, they have been very useful, but aside from the beginning "tutorial phase" most successes came with them feeling sidelined to "unimportant BS", meaning that later on all those victories were bittersweet at best.

And even though - actually BECAUSE - they did what we asked of them, we just can´t let them walk over us by utterly demolishing all we accomplished in those turns (both with and without their help) and be expected to get *praised* for it.
 
And if you wanna fire them after this is all over, fine. But at the end of the day we'd be firing them for them doing what we asked of them, which is in general just a really disingenious and shitty thing to do.
Frankly... yes. You're right, it is. But we really are arresting them for mass destruction of property, mass assault, disturbing the peace... The only reason I'm not including terrorism is because it gets thrown around a bit too freely, and I don't really think this technically fits the definition. Sure, we should have seen this coming, but that doesn't make them blameless. We are at fault, but so are they.

Also, as I understand it, we're technically not firing them. We're arresting them, and they'll quit because of that. It's a bit semantic, but considering we've hired people we arrested before, I think it's a semi-valid distinction. It's still kinda low, but so is just letting them walk.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Stratagemini on Mar 18, 2021 at 12:27 PM, finished with 236 posts and 42 votes.


So the trend here is pretty clear.

Lovemuffin must go.

If we're extremely lucky some other King (like Mayor Bellwether) will pick them up and have things go horribly wrong for them.
 
I mean, how is that any different than, say, Hego?
Hego's attached to Shego, so we have added incentive to put up with him.

Hego has been with us for less time than Lovemuffin and still got his head pulled out of his ass before them.

We have always had a relatively clear idea of what would satisfy Hego, it just conflicted with Shego's directive to keep him out of trouble and we value her approval over his.
 
I mean, how is that any different than, say, Hego? We didn't take the perform supervillainy action way back when because people were pandering to the good guys.

And we could easily have them perform supervillainy or something. We know the wacky shit they like, we just haven't put them on anything like that.

And if you wanna fire them after this is all over, fine. But at the end of the day we'd be firing them for them doing what we asked of them, which is in general just a really disingenious and shitty thing to do.

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The irony is palpable.
Here is the main problem with your argument.

Yes, we ordered them to do Mad Science, but it is quite clear from Doof's (and to a lesser extent the reader's) reactions, that this was not what we meant.

If you order someone to clean up a hedge, and they set it on fire and burn it to the ground, then they technically cleaned up the hedge.

However, that isn't what ordered them to do, and as such, it is entirely within your right to fire them.

We ordered them to do Mad Science, and you know what, had they decided to unleash their science on Doom's terf or Shere Khan's terf, or Glomgold's terf, that would have been fine.

But at the end of the day, they attacked the people of the Tri-State Area, and that is an unacceptable action. Discounting the OWACA or Monogram, or even LOVEMUFFIN itself.

This was an attack on Our Territory, and as the ruler of the Tri-State Area, it is our responsibility to keep the peace in our territory, that is what we have been doing for the whole of the thread up to this point.

If this was Hego or Monogram, or Even Janna I would be standing on this some position. You attack Doofania you get arrested. We might hire you later, like we did with Liz, but we arrested her too.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Stratagemini on Mar 18, 2021 at 12:27 PM, finished with 236 posts and 42 votes.


So the trend here is pretty clear.

Lovemuffin must go.

If we're extremely lucky some other King (like Mayor Bellwether) will pick them up and have things go horribly wrong for them.

Don´t think any other King will pick them up because of what an obvious example of the Dunning-Kruger effect they are...Bellwether especially will flatout refuse them bc they aren´t Prey species.

Now, Duke-tier guys like Sykes *Might* be willing to tolerate their idiocy for a bit bc they still are former King personnel - meaning that their "base skill" should be of use to him.

Hego's attached to Shego, so we have added incentive to put up with him.

Hego has been with us for less time than Lovemuffin and still got his head pulled out of his ass before them.

We have always had a relatively clear idea of what would satisfy Hego, it just conflicted with Shego's directive to keep him out of trouble and we value her approval over his.

Heck, Hego agreed to working for us despite knowing and understanding, that our Villainy and his Heroism would clash violently from time to time...points for commitment, if nothing else

Granted, we did end up coddling him as to not piss off Shego, but that´s explicitly on us unlike LMs very narrow and opague definition of "what befits our genius"
 
[X] Let LOVEMUFFIN go

While I do want to get rid of Lovemoffin eventually, just arresting them for doing what we told them to do is not something I support.
 
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