...so, while we're discussing plans.

I'm just - I'm just gonna throw it out there. See if people smarter than me can check the angles on it.

What if we had Technor psychoanalyze Norm?
 
we really need to upgrade norm prime and the normal norm bots. upgrading norm gives better ai adaptive ai and LAZER BEAMS. and we need to do it before we get new tech which will increase the dc. Maybe have ludivene do it? applied chaos will apply and doing it will make norm more effective
 
we really need to upgrade norm prime and the normal norm bots. upgrading norm gives better ai adaptive ai and LAZER BEAMS. and we need to do it before we get new tech which will increase the dc. Maybe have ludivene do it? applied chaos will apply and doing it will make norm more effective
I rather have Coyote do it. The Normbots do not have the Toon Weaponry yet like what Norm Prime had.

Ludivine sounds more like going to give them extra effective/advanced normal weapons added to them.
 
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It occurs to me that if Doof keeps using the Xanay nickname, it will imply a much more personal relationship with Xanatos to anyone who notices

[x] Find a Potion Seller
 
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[X] Talk to one of Janna's 'Contacts'

We have potions already. Let's figure out what we already have before getting new things.

Also, been working on a prototype plan for next turn (yes, I know I'm several interludes early, I'm trying to get into the habit of working ahead; don't judge me, procrastination is really starting to bite my ass). If I could have some constructive criticism, I'd be very thankful

[ ] Plan: Long Overdue Wrap-up [PROTOTYPE]
-[ ] Build roof-mounted laser cannons (Ludivine)
-[ ] Recruit from your rolodex
--[ ] Juniper (Technor)
--[ ] Arizona Goof (Kitsune)
-[ ] Dinosaur Entertainment (Mirage)
-[ ] Comedize your Supply Line (Wile E. Coyote)
-[ ] Investigate the Middleton Drug Cartel (Russ)
-[ ] Spy on your employees (Tobe)
-[ ] Research Uburnium fuel (Jumba)
-[ ] Decentralize your Normbots (Wendy Wower)
-[ ] Summon Demons (Janna)
-[ ] Improve Recycling Programs (LOVEMUFFIN)
Personal:
Doof:
-[ ] Chat with the Bossman
--[ ] Vanessa
-[ ] Tinker with your Inators
-[ ] Start Writing a Musical
-[ ] Brew a potion
Goofy:
-[ ] Find Mickey
Genghis Khan:
-[ ] Study science and technology
Wile E. Coyote:
-[ ] Work for the Bossman
--[ ] Comedize your Supply Line
Francis Monogram:
-[ ] Reorganize OWCA
Agent Russ:
-[ ] Work for the Good Doctor
--[ ] Investigate the Middleton Drug Cartel
Norm Prime:
-[ ] End your obsession with platypodes
Dennis the Duck:
-[ ] Search for Donald
Hego:
-[ ] Manage Bueno Nacho
Technor:
-[ ] Work for Dr. Doof
--[ ] Recruit from your rolodex
---[ ] Juniper
Max:
-[ ] Go to see a Powerline concert
Mirage:
-[ ] Work for Dr. Heinz
--[ ] Dinosaur Entertainment
Vanessa:
-[ ] Job shadow Mirage
Janna:
-[ ] Do Stuff for the Doof
--[ ] Summon Demons
Jumba:
-[ ] Work for fellow Evil Genius
--[ ] Research Uburnium fuel
Ludivine:
-[ ] Work for Dokta Doof
--[ ] Build roof-mounted laser cannons
Lizzy:
-[ ] Build backup tunnels
Tobe:
-[ ] Work for Sensei
--[ ] Spy on your employees
Janus Lee:
-[ ] Custom Design
--[ ] Vanessa
Kitsune:
-[ ] Work for the Odd Apothecary
--[ ] Recruit from your rolodex
---[ ] Arizona Goof
Wendy Wower:
-[ ] Work for Doofenshmirtz
--[ ] Decentralize your Normbots
Other:
-[ ] Don't overclock Technor
-[ ] Activate an Inator

With regards to the plan, while the general shape of it looks decent, I have some thoughts.

1) We probably want to Upgrade our Normbots to current standard, given that others are beginning to increase the forces available to them. Doom, for instance, has rolled out his Cogs, and the Middleton Drug Cartel continues to create robots in staggering quantities - quality is our edge, and we need to increase that.

2) Instead of two recruitment activities, we should probably choose one person to recruit from the rolodex this turn, and also reach out to either Olympia or the Zaibatsu. We've had them on the backburner for a while, and after Evelyn's involvement with the Sands Gala - and Sinatron joining her - it would be nice to know where she stands currently. It would also be good to take advantage of our work with dinosaurs/genetics and open up relations to Sycorax in the Zaibatsu so we can continue to diversify food options.

3) I don't really see why Wendy is being put on Decentralize Normbots, when that is something that LOVEMUFFIN could work on. Wendy is likely to be a robotics specialist - her research is the basis of Funtelligence's technology, so she'd probably be better off working on Robo-Doppelganger bodies.

Here's what I suggest...(this is a work in progress - Kitsune may need to be shifted to another action, given her Goblin Fox trait).

[ ] Plan: Long Overdue Alterations [PROTOTYPE]
-National Actions
--[ ] Upgrade Normbots to current standard (Ludivine)
--[ ] Reach out to Olympia (Mirage)
--[ ] Recruit from your rolodex
---[ ] Juniper (Janus Lee)
--[ ] Dinosaur Entertainment (Hego)
--[ ] Comedize your Supply Line (Wile E. Coyote)
--[ ] Investigate the Middleton Drug Cartel (Russ)
--[ ] Spy on your employees (Tobe)
--[ ] Research Sublight Drives (Jumba)
--[ ] Research Robo-Doppelganger bodies (Wendy Wower)
--[ ] Summon Demons (Kitsune)
--[ ] Decentralize your Normbots (LOVEMUFFIN)
-[ ] Quest:
--[ ] Continue the Feldrake World Tour (Part 2 of ???)
---[ ] Quest Leader: Janna
---[ ] Norm Prime
---[ ] Lizzy
-[ ] Personal Actions
--[ ] Doof:
---[ ] Chat with the Bossman
----[ ] Kitsune
---[ ] Tinker with your Inators
---[ ] Start Writing a Musical
---[ ] Brew a potion
--[ ] Goofy:
---[ ] Find Mickey
--[ ] Genghis Khan:
---[ ] Study science and technology
--[ ] Francis Monogram
---[ ] Reorganize OWCA
--[ ] Dennis the Duck
---[ ] Search for Donald
--[ ] Technor
---[ ] Psychoanalyze: Genghis Khan
--[ ] Max
---[ ] Play some Video Games
--[ ] Vanessa
---[ ] Job Shadow Mirage
-[ ] Misc:
--[ ] XT9000 Jet Car: Mirage
--[ ] Jī Talisman: Russ
--[ ] Amur: Janna
--[ ] Don't overclock Technor
--[ ] Activate an Inator
 
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-[ ] Quest:
--[ ] Continue the Feldrake World Tour (Part 2 of ???)
---[ ] Quest Leader: Janna
---[ ] Norm Prime
---[ ] Lizzy
i don't think this would end well, but it would be really funny

also i'd rather upgrade norm prime before we upgrade our standard normbots. if only to increase our introspection chances and make norm a better hero unit
 
we really need to upgrade norm prime and the normal norm bots. upgrading norm gives better ai adaptive ai and LAZER BEAMS. and we need to do it before we get new tech which will increase the dc.
That's not bad, though. Higher DC is harder, sure, but stocking up on upgrades before implementing all of them at once is more efficient.

Edit: Efficiency won't help us, Ludivine only has a 37% chance at upgrading Norm. Better do it sooner, then.
 
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That's not bad, though. Higher DC is harder, sure, but stocking up on upgrades before implementing all of them at once is more efficient.
yes but it would also make a point where noone will do it becouse the action is to risky to take due to dc
I could see that action - how are Ludivine's chances of upgrading Norm?
dc is currently 120 she would have 20+15+1/2(don't know if loyalty rounds up or down)+20 (applied disorder) so a total of 55/56 so she needs to roll 64/65 lowered if xp is used and i 1in 6 to do something else. i don't know what the chances for our other heroes would be for the upgrade
 
dc is currently 120 she would have 20+15+1/2(don't know if loyalty rounds up or down)+20 (applied disorder) so a total of 55/56 so she needs to roll 64/65 lowered if xp is used and i 1in 6 to do something else. i don't know what the chances for our other heroes would be for the upgrade

That's not horrible, though we should see what other heroes Coyote has hired us. Perhaps some of them will be useful for this purpose - or Wendy's specialization in robotics could help here. Also, if we wanted, we could assign the Fire Breathing potion to boost the roll by 10 as well.
 
Well yeah, I'm fine with that. I even brought up the idea of establishing relations with the government and making deals to coordinate our future space missions for better relations with them and more PR for them. I've also been fine when the "Xanatos" thing was brought up in the past.

It's explicitly renouncing secession that bothers me. I'd be sad if we never got recognized as an independent country, I'd be frustrated if all we got was an autonomy, I'd be annoyed if the issue was left to a status quo "never push it and reabsorb when Doof dies", but outright renouncing it is the actual line in the sand for me. I can tolerate every other outcome but the Death of the Doofanian Dream. That includes "soft renouncement" too by way of not having him make an official announcement but still convincing Doof himself to quit trying and just call himself a CEO like the other (non-Drossel) Kings.

I am not sure where you got the idea from that we´d be renouncing our secession anytime soon - we are simply not actively enforcing it until a more opportune moment.

In fact, no one ever on this thread wanted us to backpedal on our sovereignity.
 
I am not sure where you got the idea from that we´d be renouncing our secession anytime soon - we are simply not actively enforcing it until a more opportune moment.

In fact, no one ever on this thread wanted us to backpedal on our sovereignity.
...Dude, literally that WHOLE conversation was about someone suggesting that the price for an alliance with Xanatos being renunciation of secession, with a fair enough amount of people not really finding that to be a disagreeable price. They didn't even go "well if that's what it takes to stop the universe/humanity from being destroyed." They went from the basis of not really caring all that much about the secession part in comparison to the benefits of renunciation.

Furthermore, there has consistently been growing support for renouncing it once the DC is low enough. It's been tepid, but definitely there. Exactly what thread were you reading to not see that?
 
That's not horrible, though we should see what other heroes Coyote has hired us. Perhaps some of them will be useful for this purpose - or Wendy's specialization in robotics could help here. Also, if we wanted, we could assign the Fire Breathing potion to boost the roll by 10 as well.
problem is it's a martial action. endy from the card has 1 pip in martial so anywhere from 1 to 15 and she is likely to have lower loyalty than ludivene and her robotics trait might not apply to martial
 
...Dude, literally that WHOLE conversation was about someone suggesting that the price for an alliance with Xanatos being renunciation of secession, with a fair enough amount of people not really finding that to be a disagreeable price. They didn't even go "well if that's what it takes to stop the universe/humanity from being destroyed." They went from the basis of not really caring all that much about the secession part in comparison to the benefits of renunciation.

Furthermore, there has consistently been growing support for renouncing it once the DC is low enough. It's been tepid, but definitely there. Exactly what thread were you reading to not see that?

...No? The "price" was us recognizing the US government, which we already do in a way.

We recognize that they could kick us in the face if we continue pissing them off and so we won´t.
 
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