- Location
- Academy City
- Pronouns
- They
If this gets traction (either in the form of enough votes or enough people planning to switch later) I'll switch to this.
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
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- Crossover
weredrago2
"Cowabunga, Shadow the Hedgehog..."
- Location
- Florida
Why are you voting for 3 plans?
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X]Plan: Let's Maximize Our Results (But Morally)
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- Location
- USA
I notice a few problems with your plan:
1. I don't think Vanessa is going to be interested in hanging out with a bunch of nerds. She simply wouldn't help with the think tank action. (She has a trait to not do stuff that doesn't interest her)
2. I would make Wiley the leader for the Donald quest, put Monogram to the Hawaii quest, and put Technor onto the think tank action.
- Location
- Wherever I feel like being
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Seriously? You're slamming the door on intel that may save us from another underworld blitz, a chance to get possible intrigue heroes, and the ability to make sure that what crime happens in Doofania is stuff we'll allow? So if the Middleton drug runners make a push? We won't know until people start zonng out on nootropics. If the figure in LA decides to extend tendrils, we won't know. If any one of the petty warlord types setting up in the ruins of Kronos decide to poke at us, we won't know. Nature abhors a vacuum, and you're leaving one that's ripe to be filled by something worse than what may be there.
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- Location
- Eastern States
[X]Plan: Let's Maximize Our Results
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Valid concerns. While Vanessa's position there is just for the sake of it and to see whether or not she would do it for her Dad after he goes 'personal attention' to it.
I already put my reasons on why I put Monogram and Technor where they are. Monogram as he had experience leading and has a bunch of secret agents that would widen the search radius. While Technor for any Alien Technology problems that may come up, like say Jookiba being locked up in Alien Energy Prison with Unrecognizeable language? This way Russ wouldn't need to caught and interrogate several aliens for a passwords.
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- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
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- She/Her
Well... it's in the plan name. "Morally". Assimilating organized crime may be the more pragmatic, but pragmatism isn't factor, in my thoughts, at least. Working with the less palatable aspects of crime- the drug dealers, the murderers, the "protection" rackets, that's all a bridge too far.
And this applies in-universe as well! It would be horrendously out of character of Doof to aid and abet that sort of organized crime.
- Location
- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'd rather lose the opportunity to get an unknown intrigue hero than risk the loyalty stats of Goofy, Monogram, Russ, Hego, Mirage and Vanessa (also Dennis but he doesn't matter as much.)
I'm sure Russ and Monogram will be overjoyed to investigate these new criminals when we have the opportunity, they'd be less thrilled if we cooperated with them.
Also I never got an answer from anyone over Mirage and the Evil benefits loyalty bonus. Does she not get it because she's used to such things or did the QM just forget?
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- Wherever I feel like being
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- He/Him
Also, for those of you objecting on the basis of "allowing any crime will let bad things happen" have a quote direct from the QM
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
[X]Plan: Let's Maximize Our Results
I feel like Let's Maximize Our Results (But Morally) is somewhat too risky here... yes, combatting organized crime is a morally just action, but given the fact that we've seen a lot of unknowns showing interest in the organized crime, I suspect that combatting organized crime will be a constested roll, and Norn won't be enough to guarantee success here. If you guys believe that it is better for us to destroy organized crime rather than to absorb it, there's plan Prepare for Tomorrow.
Besides, I believe it is more useful for us to absorb organized crime anyways, because it will allow us to do more good in the long-run, by making sure that stuff that is truly repulsive is forbidden.
I feel like Let's Maximize Our Results (But Morally) is somewhat too risky here... yes, combatting organized crime is a morally just action, but given the fact that we've seen a lot of unknowns showing interest in the organized crime, I suspect that combatting organized crime will be a constested roll, and Norn won't be enough to guarantee success here. If you guys believe that it is better for us to destroy organized crime rather than to absorb it, there's plan Prepare for Tomorrow.
Besides, I believe it is more useful for us to absorb organized crime anyways, because it will allow us to do more good in the long-run, by making sure that stuff that is truly repulsive is forbidden.
Something I'll point out is that short of a Nat 1 Norm is guaranteed to succeed on controlling organised crime which isn't true of combating it, especially if there's any maluses to the roll
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Right, but if we control the less palatable aspects of crime, we can make them not happen, and replace them with petty evil more in line with our brand. (See the WoG quote a few posts up.)
Ok, but like, claiming the unknown intrigue hero is the main reason people are shilling Assimilate is rather misleading, since the focus of the arguments has been on making sure the Middleton Drug Rings or any of the like 5 separate hidden crime bosses that exploded onto the board last turn can't fill in a power vacuum in Doofania.
Yes, new heroes is nice, but the main point is keeping drugs and actually evil masterminds out of our streets.
This sentence, with the bold underlined italicized triple exclamation points, seems unlikely to persuade anyone and fairly likely to make people vote against you out of spite.
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- Wherever I feel like being
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- He/Him
Here's some very wise words from a friend of mine that's been lurking following the quest; taken from the DVV Discord.
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- Wherever I feel like being
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- He/Him
A fair point, edited my post and just removed it altogether.
[X]Plan: Let's Maximize Our Results
- Location
- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
In our rule we've improved Social Services, the Environment and helped stop a man trying to Genocide Supers.
Now (or soon) we're going to save a oppressed minority from being Gas Chambered.
We aren't evil we're just chuuni.
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
- Location
- Latveria
[X]Plan: Let's Maximize Our Results:
I'd rather crime adapts to serve us rather than have crime adapt to circumvent us. We're assimilating them not the other way around. What that means is we could funnel resource to more productive things. We set the do and don't of the underground, meaning we could potentially bar outside criminal elements from muscling in on Doofania.
If there is a drug trade then we can make drugs that won't F people up through the pharmacist (Doof) or magic or through handing it off to the think tank.
With protection rackets we can actually put up protection through tech or magic instead of just demanding money. We'd be giving an actual service. Plus it'd probably count towards setting up protection against any third party looking to stir up trouble in Doofania.
We can make the criminal underground work for us instead of getting rid of it.
I'd rather crime adapts to serve us rather than have crime adapt to circumvent us. We're assimilating them not the other way around. What that means is we could funnel resource to more productive things. We set the do and don't of the underground, meaning we could potentially bar outside criminal elements from muscling in on Doofania.
If there is a drug trade then we can make drugs that won't F people up through the pharmacist (Doof) or magic or through handing it off to the think tank.
With protection rackets we can actually put up protection through tech or magic instead of just demanding money. We'd be giving an actual service. Plus it'd probably count towards setting up protection against any third party looking to stir up trouble in Doofania.
We can make the criminal underground work for us instead of getting rid of it.