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Vegeta may very well have trained his tail.

Somehow I expect there's a big difference between 'kicking me in the nuts doesn't hurt more than the stomach' and 'castration won't slow me down'.

That's effectively the difference we're talking about here. The tail is one of his limbs. It is gone. At the very least, his balance will suffer. Also, it will change his timing and skew his reflexes. Not hugely, but at the levels we're fighting at it matters.
 
Somehow I expect there's a big difference between 'kicking me in the nuts doesn't hurt more than the stomach' and 'castration won't slow me down'.

That's effectively the difference we're talking about here. The tail is one of his limbs. It is gone. At the very least, his balance will suffer. Also, it will change his timing and skew his reflexes. Not hugely, but at the levels we're fighting at it matters.
Yeah, but like Berra, Vegeta likely gets a lot higher style bonuses than we do already, and even a debuffed Vegeta will be a huge asset if he can team up with Berra.

Heck, if Vegeta's using Vegeta style (and house Vegeta really does seems like it'd be using Vegeta style), which is mostly about about firing large energy blasts, worse balance will not matter as much as it would in close range.
 
I can give a bit of historical context to the American perspective, if it's of any help. It's a mixture of a basis from the English perspective (where we get the word Bedlam from, in reference to the Bethlehem facility where they locked up mental patients when being a doctor was less a science and more a guessing game), the fact that seeing people with a mental disability just scares the living daylights out of most people,and some truly horrifying things that came out about treatment in the 19th century from journalist Nellie Bly. She had herself committed to a facility deliberately in order to get an inside look at how patients were treated. The consequences is that mental health was revamped on a national scale, and while that was absolutely a good thing, the image from that day has stuck around in our heads and refuses to leave. You can see examples of it everywhere from games like Outlast, or movies like Terminator II. It's rare to see a psychiatric hospital treated in fiction as anything but a place of fear instead of healing.
Well, the fact that so many them are rightfully seen as places of fear due to the abuse that goes on inside them probably doesn't help.
 
[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.
 
[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.
 
Vote Tally : Dragon Ball: After the End - Sci-Fi | Page 1181 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 29503-29684]
##### NetTally 1.9.8

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Go for Dandeer's tail, using her as a flail to keep Berra at bay while Dandelor breaks the mind control.
No. of Votes: 14

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.
No. of Votes: 14

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] The Senzus can't reach Jaffur right now without turning into collateral damage. Focus on getting him to them for healing.
No. of Votes: 13

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Keep going after Dandeer, in conjunction with Dandelor. She is as distracted as she is ever going to get. It'll mean getting past your father to do it, but you have the edge in speed; it should be doable.
No. of Votes: 10

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to break your Father out of his mind control.
--[X] Freeze in mid-air instead of dodging an incoming attack, and drop your Power Level to 80,000,000. Any attack from your father which connects will end you. You know he won't do that.
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] TK-grab Dad's tail. Hope it paralyzes him.
No. of Votes: 4

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Raise fingers as if to use Instant Transmission, but actually use it as a decoy for Solar Flare.
No. of Votes: 2

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Your father is powerful right now, but also slow. Just try to keep ahead of him, and focus on giving your Grandma fire support. Hopefully your interference will let her take him down quickly, and get her back in the fight.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Raise fingers as if to use Instant Transmission, but actually use it as a decoy for Solar Flare.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Bait Berra into a beam struggle. Give it everything you have. Reflect on your mistakes. Create that need.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 37

O_O

:rofl:
 
That's not what the vote tally shows for me...
Adhoc vote count started by Cariyaga on Aug 23, 2018 at 8:51 PM, finished with 29693 posts and 37 votes.
 
[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.

Please no tail shenanigans.
 
[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.

Please no tail shenanigans.
RIP Dandelor

e: I strongly suggest either targetting Dandeer's tail or her herself. Either one works. The former is more likely to work because oddball bonuses, but anything else leaves Berra free to rampage on our friendly sorceror.
 
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Vote Tally : Dragon Ball: After the End - Sci-Fi | Page 1181 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 29503-29695]
##### NetTally 1.9.8

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.
No. of Votes: 15

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Go for Dandeer's tail, using her as a flail to keep Berra at bay while Dandelor breaks the mind control.
No. of Votes: 14

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] The Senzus can't reach Jaffur right now without turning into collateral damage. Focus on getting him to them for healing.
No. of Votes: 12

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Keep going after Dandeer, in conjunction with Dandelor. She is as distracted as she is ever going to get. It'll mean getting past your father to do it, but you have the edge in speed; it should be doable.
No. of Votes: 10

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Try to break your Father out of his mind control.
--[X] Freeze in mid-air instead of dodging an incoming attack, and drop your Power Level to 80,000,000. Any attack from your father which connects will end you. You know he won't do that.
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] TK-grab Dad's tail. Hope it paralyzes him.
No. of Votes: 4

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Raise fingers as if to use Instant Transmission, but actually use it as a decoy for Solar Flare.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Your father is powerful right now, but also slow. Just try to keep ahead of him, and focus on giving your Grandma fire support. Hopefully your interference will let her take him down quickly, and get her back in the fight.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Bait Berra into a beam struggle. Give it everything you have. Reflect on your mistakes. Create that need.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 37
 
[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Keep going after Dandeer, in conjunction with Dandelor. She is as distracted as she is ever going to get. It'll mean getting past your father to do it, but you have the edge in speed; it should be doable.
 
[X] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[X] Go for Dandeer's tail, using her as a flail to keep Berra at bay while Dandelor breaks the mind control.
 
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