[x] More hugs.
-[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
-[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
[X] Vote In abeyance
-[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as an "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
 
So, granted this is a low pressure vote, but a few more would be nice. :V

(I'll start writing soonish, most likely.)
Low Pressure!! Oooohh, you rascal!

Ending the session isn't easy. At least, ending with the best effect. I'm still not compressed, but here is the supersized source version.

[X] GOAL - Present Friends and Sabrina as ongoing emotional support
[X] GOAL - observe for subtle Wish rejection, or self-harm.

[X] Suggest a self affirmation phrase for this week. Practice it together.

[X] Tell her it can be even better
-[X] All of our friends will help in different ways
-[X] Homura will help them, too?

[X] What is Homura thinking right now? Zen style question?
-[X] What does she want now? next?

[X] Get Homura to comment. Have her appreciate the good around her.
-[X] Homura is aiding Sabrina's Wish right now! Sabrina certainly wants to see Homura happy.
-[X] Sayaka has Wished to join us all - have her with you.
-[X] Mami Wished to be connected.

[X] Propose "secret language" with Homura, so she can ask for support 'in the clear.'

[X] Setting Yuki up to prepare an evacuation route was inspired. What does Homura think?

[X] From now on, ask for what you need, even if explaining is impossible
-[X] We can give each other hope. Every girl can create hope.
---[X] (determine IF) (Homura would react badly)(ELSE) Madoka can satisfy her need to help, if Homura gives her an outlet. Both win.
-[X] It doesn't have to center on infohazards or magic

[X] Homura's plans for the future, try to get the answer.
-[X] Listen to what her reply indicates in subtext.
--[X] If legit no answer, prompt - Protecting Madoka from her potential - Think in years? What plan now?

[X] Sabrina holds her as family. Always available to her.
[X] Spend time talking until she is confident to stop.
[X] Ask her what she wants to do re: Vote in Abeyance topics
-[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
-[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as Mom's "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
 
Fine.
[Х] Hugs for Hug Throne! Hope for the Hope God! You demand your tribute be paid in Homuhugs! :V

[X] Onmur
 
New person, new to SV as a whole too, wanted to throw my hat in about some future SCIENCE

Something has been bugging me about our solid grief, specifically what we have seen damage it.

Thinking back to our fights, namely O&K, Sendai, and Ausnaro. Mobile Oppression Fortress blocked weaponized light, metal projectiles, water, paper, plants, etc. I don't remember an instance where Sabrina's solid grief was damaged or pierced while defending against magically acquired mundane weapons (the Mami+Sayaka+Homura spar when we faced against Homura) or magically accelerated physical projectiles (the metal and light bending Fukushima duo, or the recent Fukushima spar in the building where we blocked the building). It doesn't make much sense that our grief alone is immune when you consider that mundane weapons work wonders in Homura's hands (and magical attacks from normal meguca work) against pretty much every witch ... except Walpurgisnacht, which we never see significantly damaged by Homura's mundane weaponry in any of the main series loops. (Also, I think the only time we ever see damage on Walpurgis comes from Madoka's pure magic projectiles, but I am not 100% sure about this.)

Based on this, I believe that we can assume that our solid or witchy grief, as a material, is closer to or mimics the grief which constitutes Walpurgisnacht more so than the grief which constitutes normal witches.

I propose that we test this, or rather, we determine which, if any, of our allies' powers can damage, pierce, disperse, or otherwise interact/affect solid grief by running tests with both mundane and magical attacks. Then, we can use that knowledge to plan a strategy against Walpurgisnacht. Specifically we should:
1. Sample Homura's arsenal (projectiles, missiles, her magic pulse, etc.) against different kinds/thicknesses of grief, and test if our grief penetrates her enchantment magic
2. Test all of Sayaka's copied powers to see if any have effects
3. Test Mami's muskets, ribbons, Tiro, and possibly her and Sabrina's combination attacks
4. Test all of the above with Kirika's anti-magic enchantments applied to the projectile, power, or weapon

If they do have effects, we can train/include in the plan whoever the powers come from. And, Sabrina could develop contingencies so that we aren't taken by surprise if a random power appears that can interact with our grief.

In fact, the only thing I can remember that has ever been directly effective against our 'solid grief' was anti-magic.

While fighting O&K:


And versus Hijiri:



Which is great if we test it and it works against our Walpurgisnacht ballistics gel. But, I think it would be trivially easy in a narrative sense for, say, a 100 person raiding group to send 70 people to distract the main Mitakihara group while 30 recruit Hijiri or force Kirika against us by taking Oriko hostage (or in Homura's mind or if we are sufficiently paranoid, she might let herself be taken hostage). Especially when you consider that, in Ausnaro, we had a team of ~8-10 girls versus 2 which we had information about, but we only captured 1 and let one get away.

Now that's just unfounded speculation, but I think it would still be beneficial to determine anything else that would be useful against our grief, even if it wont be applicable to Walpurgisnacht, just to develop contingencies against those types of powers now, rather than on the spot later.

There does exist the chance that Sabrina doesn't find a power or attack that has an effect on our grief other that Kirika's anti magic, but I think even showing that we have something effective against Walpurgisnacht ballistics gel would help assure Homura in the (near)future. It would also be, to Homura specifically, another point in favor of keeping O&K around and alive or busy enchanting while someone watches if we have solid evidence that they can contribute towards Walpurgisnacht.

Good to meet you! I hope you make Warehouse-kun proud. Good SCIENCE has quite a following.
BTW, my personal response to your topic is to note an observation. This system of magic seems to imply a Will multiplier. The more Will, the more 'effect' the magic exerts. If true, how does your experiment account for the variable?
 
Nice to meet you too!
This system of magic seems to imply a Will multiplier. The more Will, the more 'effect' the magic exerts. If true, how does your experiment account for the variable?
It doesn't. It should account for this though, possibly through creating a competitive atmosphere? Possibly set up rewards/incentives for winning—successfully piercing or defending against grief? Say, hugs from Sabrina to Mami, the reverse, Doka hugs for Homura, goad Kwyjibo into playing alone for Sayaka? And convince Kyouko to take part somehow, frankly I don't know what else would work but food, but she has seemed especially reluctant to leave Kasamino oh, probably because of the Church demo...
Others probably have better ideas that that, but it's a start.
 
I would actually like to see Mami shoot it.
TBH, I think both Mami and Homura might like to see how strong Grief is, too.

Maybe more after watching the spar video, In Which We Tank Absolutely Everything.

We can measure attack power by how thick a Grief sheet needs to be in order to not be affected by an attack.

Then we send the results to Yuki. :V
 
This is going to be another cash mill for us? If there are no Slo-Mo Guys on the Internet in PMMM, we can just churn out these one after another! Now, we have to get the sustained chord sound effect with the swoops and chirps.....

Sell videos of sparring matches
Sayka: its all CGI!
 
I have returned. Last two weeks were enough grief, was a very good thing none of us over here were meguca, but- things are getting to be okay once more, and I have resumed the having of the hope and the faith and the belief in the things being able to be fixable and fixed. Took a good many bit more days than projected, ne? (Though, still staying stepped out of the votes until we exit timestop, I think. It's a bit- closer in, even, than before the- the 16th.) But- these last two updates I love a lot. It's- everything going on, on my end, has had a lot of... point for point, word for word, moments with a... both eerily timed and unfortunate amount of echo of this... everyone. Not only a few Homuras over here. And I'm back getting caught up after a week and a half because we're- mwargh, our Walpurgisnacht was slain for us, I suppose I could say. And isn't that a lack of closure, ne? But we, at the least, are definitively the better for it, though I'm not sure if I'd call that conclusion commutative to PMAS.

At any rate, though, @Firnagzen , everyone voting and votecrafting and discussing here, really, I would just like to say that it was... it was good to come back to these last two updates. Even with the bit of ambiguously potentially concerning dialogue "I... if we win. It doesn't matter.", it's all still... moving forward. Saying our bit, and having it be heard, and acknowledged even if it wasn't believed right now or quite yet. These whole last- it's good to be reminded in more than one place, that a conversation doesn't have to solve, here and now, for it to do good. Even if it's just... bleeding out poison. Clearing out places for bridges, where everything flooded away, once. Giving a moment to... be allowed to breath out, for a moment. There's been a lot of that, past week and a half, for half all everyone, and it's just really good to see that echo here as well as all the eerily mirror-y causes-me-to-flip-out-concern-people-and-duck-in-and-out-of-recusal stuff.

I dunno. That's where I'm seeing from, anyway.

So yeah. Also, I suppose my probably-gonna-be-traditional-let's-be-honest scattered replies to things that've been posted in my absence.

I feel like telling Kyubey about vague extratemporal entities is the sort of thing that causes the plot of Rebellion.

Can I add this to my short list of things that will probably flow in and out of my signature? I dunno, I just like the way it just has this tone of "ah, yes, this thing that you may say that may cause you to incite the plot of Rebellion, as you do". You know. As one does.

So...some psychology insights, particularly from someone with first-hand experience:

1) People who develop long-held beliefs about themselves--particularly negative ones--don't have those beliefs changed immediately, and if they are changed immediately, the experience of having said belief changed immediately can itself be traumatic. Even having an epiphany (at the guidance of a therapist) that almost immediately changes your point of view takes some time to really sink in and process, even if the process itself starts immediately.

2) When such beliefs form as a result of trauma, it can take a lot of reiterating the same point over and over before they come to internalize it. Part of the remedy there is the subject engaging in positive self-talk to counteract the negative belief. It's something of a spectrum:
A-> Believing something negative about oneself, both intellectually and emotionally B-> Believing something negative about oneself emotionally, but not intellectually C->Not believing something negative about oneself.

There's a lot more nuance there, but that's the general gist. Homura's somewhere between A and B, needing Sabrina to repeatedly reiterate the points so that Homura can bring herself to B, and then reminding her and encouraging her to engage in positive self-talk so that she can eventually reach C.

So I have to thank you because I have both seen and heard this explained before but something about how you phrased the whole thing, I guess, made a very critical part of it suddenly make a lot more sense in the context of something I already did properly know, and that was a very weird epiphany for 5:14am that also suddenly doubled the utility function of some of what I have going with the my-brain-is-weird-re:-easily-reaching-in-and-changing-processes-like-moving-furniture-with-an-API thing. So, again, my thanks, because you have- heh, actually though, surpassed entropy.

I mean... I think the achievement here is the fact we're someone Homura can open up to, and actually talk about all this shit with.

At the end she went back into her shell, she took refuge once more in the idea that it will all be worth it in the end, after shelving all the doubts she was expressing back into their places.

Only, this time she had someone to hold her and tell it would be OK, and,



We didn't really fix anything. We brought Homura the kind of help she's been missing since literally forever.

Hopefully that's good enough for now.

Basically all of this, yeah. Bleeding out the poison, ne? And being there, an offered hand and opened arms, metaphorically and literally. Giving all those doubts their moment to breath, even a bit, before shelving, a moment's worth of safety valve hopefully giving the chance for at least some of the pressure to fall a bit lower, on the internal 'may crack like an egg, a bit more literally than desired, sooner than later' scale.

So long as we keep that sort of direction, metaphorical and literal arms open- I reckon that is indeed rightly good enough for now.



More songs to be stuck in my head, you are responsible for! I still blame you for the entire playlist of Nightcore in my Youtube account, I hope you know, and also the Touhou playlist too- wait wait wait it has just come to my attention that you recommended PMAS to me back end of last October and I did not immediately materialize here. The list of my sins. It grows longer.

... I have just been reminded that you recommended PMMM to me nearly half a decade ago and I managed to procrastinate watching it until the end of last year. Wow, that list of sins just keeps growing. }=o)

... also been reminded what my exact reaction was as I finished the last like, four episodes of Madoka, on Octorber 22. Past me had no chill. I still have like no chill. It's more than moderately hilarious.

To break up the seriousness of some of the preceding contents of my rambling in this post, selected quotes of my reaction:

"HOMURA-CHAN ARE YOU RAIDING THE LOCAL YAKUZA AND STUFFING THEIR ENTIRE ARMORY IN YOUR FUCKING SYLLADEX"

"MADOKA THIS IS WHAT CLARA DID DID THEY WRITE THAT BECAUSE YOU DID IT DID THEY KNOW THAT THROWING YOURSELF INTO THE TIME STREAM TO COUNTERACT EVERY INSTANCE OF A THING ACROSS TIME AND SPACE WAS A THING THAT YOU HAD DONE BEFORE DID THEY"

"AND ANOTHER THING, WHAT, ARE YOU A COUNTER GUARDIAN NOW, WITH YOUR BOW AND YOUR BEING THROWN ACROSS TIME AND SPACE TO DO A THING"

"AND ALSO MADOKA THIS "SACRIFICING YOURSELF SO THAT YOU CAN SAVE THE SOULS OF EVERY MAGICAL GIRL WHO EVER WAS SO THAT THEY CAN DIE/LIVE/DIE IN PEACE, AS THEMSELVES, WITHOUT BECOMING WITCHES" SOUNDS A LOT LIKE JESUS. ARE YOU JESUS NOW, MADOKA."

"ARE YOU ASLAN NOW MADOKA, WITH THE GUIDING PEOPLE BACK TO FUCKING NARNIA AT THEIR DEATHS"

No chill, anywhere, as you can clearly see. I don't entirely remember my reactions upon reading PMAS for the first time, but I have complete faith that they exhibited exactly the same lack of chill.

And now you know.
 
Apologies, for all that I pushed for the votes, I won't be updating tonight. I've got a presentation tomorrow that I need to sleep early for. (It was supposed to be Tuesday, and then last minute schedule slips. Gah.)

Update tomorrow.
 
[X] Shadowhisker
Adhoc vote count started by Madou Sutegobana on Apr 29, 2018 at 1:55 PM, finished with 137197 posts and 16 votes.

  • [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] She realizes, of course, that if Madoka is Mado-kaa, <switch to English> that means that Homura is Homu-mom, right?
    [X] Firnagzen
    [X] continue vote in abeyance
    [x] after hugs
    [x] Ask Homura what she wants to do.
    -[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
    -[x] Just sit back and relax watching the sparring video.
    -[x] Just grab everyone in a huge cuddle pile (invite Madoka) and have a cuddle pile sleepover.
    -[x] Write-in
    [X] Ask if Homura wants another hug.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    --[X] She's the best mom you could ask for.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    --[X] Speaking of which, is there anything else she wants to talk about?
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] That's what friends are for, Homura.
    -[x] She's our friend and we care about her and want her to be happy.
    --[x] She's the closes thing we have to family and we will always be there for her.
    -[x] She's Mami and Sayaka's friend and they care about her to be happy, too.
    -[x] Madoka cares about her and wants her to be happy, too.
    --[x] We're all here for her. She is not alone.
    [x] Hug and comfort her while she composes herself.
    [x] Ask if anything else is troubling her.
    -[x] Or anything else she wants to talk about.
    -[x] If there isn't anything, continue vote in abeyance.
    [X]Null
    [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Vote In abeyance
    -[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as an "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
    [X] GOAL - Present Friends and Sabrina as ongoing emotional support
    [X] GOAL - observe for subtle Wish rejection, or self-harm.
    [X] Suggest a self affirmation phrase for this week. Practice it together.
    [X] Tell her it can be even better
    -[X] All of our friends will help in different ways
    -[X] Homura will help them, too?
    [X] What is Homura thinking right now? Zen style question?
    -[X] What does she want now? next?
    [X] Get Homura to comment. Have her appreciate the good around her.
    -[X] Homura is aiding Sabrina's Wish right now! Sabrina certainly wants to see Homura happy.
    -[X] Sayaka has Wished to join us all - have her with you.
    -[X] Mami Wished to be connected.
    [X] Propose "secret language" with Homura, so she can ask for support 'in the clear.'
    [X] Setting Yuki up to prepare an evacuation route was inspired. What does Homura think?
    [X] From now on, ask for what you need, even if explaining is impossible
    -[X] We can give each other hope. Every girl can create hope.
    ---[X] (determine IF) (Homura would react badly)(ELSE) Madoka can satisfy her need to help, if Homura gives her an outlet. Both win.
    -[X] It doesn't have to center on infohazards or magic
    [X] Homura's plans for the future, try to get the answer.
    -[X] Listen to what her reply indicates in subtext.
    --[X] If legit no answer, prompt - Protecting Madoka from her potential - Think in years? What plan now?
    [X] Sabrina holds her as family. Always available to her.
    [X] Spend time talking until she is confident to stop.
    [X] Ask her what she wants to do re: Vote in Abeyance topics
    -[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
    -[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as Mom's "allowance" and/or "lunch money"

Adhoc vote count started by Madou Sutegobana on Apr 29, 2018 at 6:03 PM, finished with 137216 posts and 17 votes.

  • [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] She realizes, of course, that if Madoka is Mado-kaa, <switch to English> that means that Homura is Homu-mom, right?
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [x] And she realizes, of course, that if Madoka is Mado-kaa, <switch to English> that means that Homura is Homu-mom, right?
    -[X] <still in English> Or Mom-mura. Whatever works.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [X] continue vote in abeyance
    [x] after hugs
    [x] Ask Homura what she wants to do.
    -[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
    -[x] Just sit back and relax watching the sparring video.
    -[x] Just grab everyone in a huge cuddle pile (invite Madoka) and have a cuddle pile sleepover.
    -[x] Write-in
    [x] That's what friends are for, Homura.
    -[x] She's our friend and we care about her and want her to be happy.
    --[x] She's the closes thing we have to family and we will always be there for her.
    -[x] She's Mami and Sayaka's friend and they care about her to be happy, too.
    -[x] Madoka cares about her and wants her to be happy, too.
    --[x] We're all here for her. She is not alone.
    [x] Hug and comfort her while she composes herself.
    [x] Ask if anything else is troubling her.
    -[x] Or anything else she wants to talk about.
    -[x] If there isn't anything, continue vote in abeyance.
    [X]Null
    [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Vote In abeyance
    -[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as an "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
    [X] GOAL - Present Friends and Sabrina as ongoing emotional support
    [X] GOAL - observe for subtle Wish rejection, or self-harm.
    [X] Suggest a self affirmation phrase for this week. Practice it together.
    [X] Tell her it can be even better
    -[X] All of our friends will help in different ways
    -[X] Homura will help them, too?
    [X] What is Homura thinking right now? Zen style question?
    -[X] What does she want now? next?
    [X] Get Homura to comment. Have her appreciate the good around her.
    -[X] Homura is aiding Sabrina's Wish right now! Sabrina certainly wants to see Homura happy.
    -[X] Sayaka has Wished to join us all - have her with you.
    -[X] Mami Wished to be connected.
    [X] Propose "secret language" with Homura, so she can ask for support 'in the clear.'
    [X] Setting Yuki up to prepare an evacuation route was inspired. What does Homura think?
    [X] From now on, ask for what you need, even if explaining is impossible
    -[X] We can give each other hope. Every girl can create hope.
    ---[X] (determine IF) (Homura would react badly)(ELSE) Madoka can satisfy her need to help, if Homura gives her an outlet. Both win.
    -[X] It doesn't have to center on infohazards or magic
    [X] Homura's plans for the future, try to get the answer.
    -[X] Listen to what her reply indicates in subtext.
    --[X] If legit no answer, prompt - Protecting Madoka from her potential - Think in years? What plan now?
    [X] Sabrina holds her as family. Always available to her.
    [X] Spend time talking until she is confident to stop.
    [X] Ask her what she wants to do re: Vote in Abeyance topics
    -[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
    -[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as Mom's "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
    [x] Omnomnomur

Adhoc vote count started by Madou Sutegobana on Apr 29, 2018 at 6:05 PM, finished with 137216 posts and 17 votes.

  • [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [x] And she realizes, of course, that if Madoka is Mado-kaa, <switch to English> that means that Homura is Homu-mom, right?
    -[X] <still in English> Or Mom-mura. Whatever works.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] She realizes, of course, that if Madoka is Mado-kaa, <switch to English> that means that Homura is Homu-mom, right?
    [X] Firnagzen
    [X] continue vote in abeyance
    [x] after hugs
    [x] Ask Homura what she wants to do.
    -[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
    -[x] Just sit back and relax watching the sparring video.
    -[x] Just grab everyone in a huge cuddle pile (invite Madoka) and have a cuddle pile sleepover.
    -[x] Write-in
    [x] That's what friends are for, Homura.
    -[x] She's our friend and we care about her and want her to be happy.
    --[x] She's the closes thing we have to family and we will always be there for her.
    -[x] She's Mami and Sayaka's friend and they care about her to be happy, too.
    -[x] Madoka cares about her and wants her to be happy, too.
    --[x] We're all here for her. She is not alone.
    [x] Hug and comfort her while she composes herself.
    [x] Ask if anything else is troubling her.
    -[x] Or anything else she wants to talk about.
    -[x] If there isn't anything, continue vote in abeyance.
    [X]Null
    [x] More hugs.
    -[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
    -[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
    [X] Vote In abeyance
    -[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as an "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
    [X] GOAL - Present Friends and Sabrina as ongoing emotional support
    [X] GOAL - observe for subtle Wish rejection, or self-harm.
    [X] Suggest a self affirmation phrase for this week. Practice it together.
    [X] Tell her it can be even better
    -[X] All of our friends will help in different ways
    -[X] Homura will help them, too?
    [X] What is Homura thinking right now? Zen style question?
    -[X] What does she want now? next?
    [X] Get Homura to comment. Have her appreciate the good around her.
    -[X] Homura is aiding Sabrina's Wish right now! Sabrina certainly wants to see Homura happy.
    -[X] Sayaka has Wished to join us all - have her with you.
    -[X] Mami Wished to be connected.
    [X] Propose "secret language" with Homura, so she can ask for support 'in the clear.'
    [X] Setting Yuki up to prepare an evacuation route was inspired. What does Homura think?
    [X] From now on, ask for what you need, even if explaining is impossible
    -[X] We can give each other hope. Every girl can create hope.
    ---[X] (determine IF) (Homura would react badly)(ELSE) Madoka can satisfy her need to help, if Homura gives her an outlet. Both win.
    -[X] It doesn't have to center on infohazards or magic
    [X] Homura's plans for the future, try to get the answer.
    -[X] Listen to what her reply indicates in subtext.
    --[X] If legit no answer, prompt - Protecting Madoka from her potential - Think in years? What plan now?
    [X] Sabrina holds her as family. Always available to her.
    [X] Spend time talking until she is confident to stop.
    [X] Ask her what she wants to do re: Vote in Abeyance topics
    -[x] Keep working on defensive enchantments? Comment about their usefulness not only to give to Madoka, but to protect everyone's Soul Gems.
    -[x] refer to the Yakuza gold as Mom's "allowance" and/or "lunch money"
    [x] Omnomnomur
 
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Behold, the power of Franken-vote!

[x] More hugs.
-[X] Re-promise everything will work out.
-[X] Tell Homura she can always come to you if she feels the need to talk about anything... or to hug someone.
[x] And she realizes, of course, that if Madoka is Mado-kaa, <switch to English> that means that Homura is Homu-mom, right?
[X] Firnagzen
 
I cannot bear this anymore. Dad jokes are my weakness. Or mom jokes, as the case might be.

Sorry, Onmur.

[] Vebyast

( btw, Aranfan, your idea seems to be working out. )

Edit: wtf, there is a frankenvote and I'm not voting for it.

[X] Shadowhisker
 
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