Everyone who votes for ignore just to avoid going into steppe, please turn off your approval vote - bribe is beating it, and you'll probably like it better.
 
Just had a revelation:

HK were isolationist monotheistic assholes

Ymaryn are isolationist monotheistic assholes

we were infiltrated!

That's the reason while they are still around while we ate everyone else :V
 
Tally to go you ask? Here it is!
Adhoc vote count started by Motoko on Feb 17, 2018 at 3:38 PM, finished with 190 posts and 73 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Motoko on Feb 17, 2018 at 3:39 PM, finished with 191 posts and 74 votes.
 
Once again, all of you who votes for relations with khan - that option is super dead due to vote weighting. You can go down with it, but if you want a chance of peace and relationships - vote for bribes.
[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)
Just so I am sure you've seen it.
 
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[X] [Steppe] Reach out to further relations with this successful warlord (x0.1)
[X] [Steppe] Send the traditionally determined bribes (x2)
[X] [Steppe] Acquiesce to the larger than usual demands (x0.8)
Ignoring is literally the worst action.
They'll eat our neighbors and come after us if we do this.
 
Tally..... again.
Adhoc vote count started by Motoko on Feb 17, 2018 at 3:52 PM, finished with 141742 posts and 78 votes.
 
Snubbing the Khan by ignoring him is almost as bad, tbh. He can't ignore disrespect like that without losing tons of prestige and standing, so he will invade us. Why risk such a devastating war in the first place?
 
Sheesh People
Chill please
You guys are making this bigger then normal
Remember this is the character Creation for the new civ
So the vote is Not about whether this particular warlord is dangerous or Not
But how the people react to pushy nomads and how their relationship to nomads will be in the future
In particular here is PiA vs the War against nomads Legacy and our own actions against them
However since so many People are whining about how it will be the end of the World, I will Stepp down a Bit

[X] [Steppe] Ignore the upstart, he will dash his forces against the People if he dares further action (x8)
The space before your vote is making it tally separately fyi.

While I'm responding, though, I think this vote is about pride and I don't think we're bad enough dudes to be able to afford that level of pride. Is a traditional bribe so bad?
 
Snubbing the Khan by ignoring him is almost as bad, tbh. He can't ignore disrespect like that without losing tons of prestige and standing, so he will invade us. Why risk such a devastating war in the first place?
At the very least it has us staying behind our walls rather than meeting him in the steppes. It's something lol.
 
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Man, and I thought FPTP was a bad voting system. *eats popcorn*
Snubbing the Khan by ignoring him is almost as bad, tbh. He can't ignore disrespect like that without losing tons of prestige and standing, so he will invade us. Why risk such a devastating war in the first place?
Because we are STRONK! There is no way we can lose and all losses are acceptable when it comes to killing nomads!

Meh, becoming a Mongol vassal might teach us a thing or two. Atleast it might convince some people here that we're not as invincible as they think....
 
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