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Oshha said:
So is the Ymaryn Empire collapsing? Because I don't mind the idea of the Ymaryn Empire collapsing, but not if it is done over a timeskip with no way for the players to do anything about it.
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The point is that it's hovering on the brink of collapse and liable to tip over with a bit of bad luck or bad decisions, and it'd be dozens of turns of math heavy molten salt reactor trying to keep the upside down pyramid spinning which literally nobody, especially the one writing it, is enjoying the process of. Best do a timeskip and have the salt over with.
 
[X] [GP] Barbarians know nothing of actual alchemy (x10)
After seeing how the previous voter response was, I think I need to clarify first.
NO I'm not trolling.
I think that the focus needed to develop such a discovery from far away is at the very least, very costly and impossible at worst.
I prefer the ymaryn focus more on developing culture and infrastructure, rather than developing a difficult technology. Especially considering connectivity has been a fire we need put off for a long time. The time spent on researching it can be made to make our infrastructure and culture greater, kinda how China looks for inner perfection when it regards others as barbarians. Of course, I'm not advocating such, but an inward focus could be profitable.
Edit: not to mention the initial stability issues and such
 
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Korporati said:
[X] [GP] Barbarians know nothing of actual alchemy (x10)
After seeing how the previous voter response was, I think I need to clarify first.
NO I'm not trolling.
I think that the focus needed to develop such a discovery from far away is at the very least, very costly and impossible at worst.
I prefer the ymaryn focus more on developing culture and infrastructure, rather than developing a difficult technology. Especially considering connectivity has been a fire we need put off for a long time. The time spent on researching it can be made to make our infrastructure and culture greater, kinda how China looks for inward culture when it regards others as barbarians. Of course, I'm not advocating such, but a inward look could be profitable.
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Dislike.
 
Korporati said:
[X] [GP] Barbarians know nothing of actual alchemy (x10)
After seeing how the previous voter response was, I think I need to clarify first.
NO I'm not trolling.
I think that the focus needed to develop such a discovery from far away is at the very least, very costly and impossible at worst.
I prefer the ymaryn focus more on developing culture and infrastructure, rather than developing a difficult technology. Especially considering connectivity has been a fire we need put off for a long time. The time spent on researching it can be made to make our infrastructure and culture greater, kinda how China looks for inward culture when it regards others as barbarians. Of course, I'm not advocating such, but a inward look could be profitable.
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A big part of our tech-engine is the fact that we're tech-porous, though. We make developments, they leak out, other people find flaws and create improvements in our tech, and then we reabsorb those improvements. If we stop absorbing tech from the outside, our tech-engine turns into pure downside.
Adhoc vote count started by ETA50M on Feb 17, 2018 at 1:15 PM, finished with 141369 posts and 34 votes.
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Admittedly we don't actually have a pressing need for gunpowder. If anything it is likely just to make the local situation more explosive.
 
Korporati said:
[X] [GP] Barbarians know nothing of actual alchemy (x10)
After seeing how the previous voter response was, I think I need to clarify first.
NO I'm not trolling.
I think that the focus needed to develop such a discovery from far away is at the very least, very costly and impossible at worst.
I prefer the ymaryn focus more on developing culture and infrastructure, rather than developing a difficult technology. Especially considering connectivity has been a fire we need put off for a long time. The time spent on researching it can be made to make our infrastructure and culture greater, kinda how China looks for inner perfection when it regards others as barbarians. Of course, I'm not advocating such, but an inward focus could be profitable.
Edit: not to mention the initial stability issues and such
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That's why we're voting to review our recipes then.
veekie said:
literally nobody
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I object. It was very enjoyable to me.
 
Oshha said:
He makes a controversial vote for a bad outcome with no reason beyond stating that he likes being given an opportunity to screw over the rest of the voters. And then there is the fact that he hasn't posted is this thread for over half a year and the first thing he does is try to screw everyone else over for what seems to be the lolz.
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I think he is providing a valuable service to the thread - in giving voice to the more indignant members of Ymaryn society. There is a reason the vote is weighted after all: AN wants to give a shot to options that he knows SV is unlikely to go for but which might be prevalent opinion among citizens of our nation.
 
Gunpowder might help us keep the patricians from becoming a noble class though. Giving the common man the power to kill warriors decked out in steel armour is a great way to break social stratification.
 
Aabcehmu said:
A big part of our tech-engine is the fact that we're tech-porous, though. We make developments, they leak out, other people find flaws and create improvements in our tech, and then we reabsorb those improvements. If we stop absorbing tech from the outside, our tech-engine turns into pure downside.
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Very much this.
We made a decision a while ago to allow international trade fairs especially with the intention of technology exchange, and it was pretty successful.

We really should try to keep this tradition alive.
 
Korporati said:
I think that the focus needed to develop such a discovery from far away is at the very least, very costly and impossible at worst.
I prefer the ymaryn focus more on developing culture and infrastructure, rather than developing a difficult technology. Especially considering connectivity has been a fire we need put off for a long time. The time spent on researching it can be made to make our infrastructure and culture greater, kinda how China looks inward when it regards others as barbarians. Of course, I'm not advocating such, but a inward look could be profitable.
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Gunpowder isn't difficult to invent. The Ymaryn have almost gotten it at least once. Furthermore, this option winning could seriously damage PiA as we would be rejecting its ability to get technological advancement from neighbours while dismissing foreigners as mere barbarians incapable of doing something better than us rather than actually it to be possible for them. Additionally, PK could be damaged as a value as we are rejecting new insights and ideas out of hand due to their origins. I fail to see how an 'inward look' is worth damaging two core values that make the Ymaryn the Ymaryn.
 
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