Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Gork can smite followers of other Gods, because Gork is cunning like that.
All it takes is a Shaman standing on the other side of the battlefield casting Foot of Gork.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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All it takes is a Shaman standing on the other side of the battlefield casting Foot of Gork.
Sir_Travelsalot
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Sigmar can too, given that his Warrior Priests can summon miniature versions of his comet to smash into followers of other gods.
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DocMatoi
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we're between updates, derailing is what this thread does
slaneesh would be much more likely to approve of using dhar than sigmar would.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Of course, which I presume is the reason why Mathilde has a Trait banning her subordinates from worshipping Sigmar and not one for Slaanesh.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Friendly contact with the Eonir, possibly easing tensions between Nordland and Middenland?
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It'll be fun to have an appretince around with a different wind sight than Mathilde. I'm really curious how the difference in perspective will benefit both of them in the future. I really like the demonstration, and I felt like Mathilde was fair to the other colleges, even if she couldn't help but be biased for her own.
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Don't all the other wizards of K8P have their own different windsights? (Except Johann, I think?) Considering they've been working with each other for a while, I'd be surprised if they haven't already benefited from the differences.
Mopman43
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Johann's is based around magnetism, Pan's is tactile, Eike's is emotive, not sure we know anyone else's at K8P.
Visual windsight always seemed like the superior one to me. Hopefully Eike won't be stuck with an inferior magesight.
(Yes, yes, every wizard is special and unique. But here out of setting we can make judgements that would pick fights in-setting, right?)
(Yes, yes, every wizard is special and unique. But here out of setting we can make judgements that would pick fights in-setting, right?)
I for one am HYPED for Eike staying a Shallayan. I mean, the logical would probably be to try and proselytise Ranald to her as that God seems more fitting for a Grey and Uglu (it worked exceptionnaly well for us).
BUT, we also know that the relation of a believer with his god is a very personal one. There are many facets to each god. I mean, when were we ever deceptive to Dwarves? How often do we steal in he Karak? Do we live in the shadow or do we try to hog the spotlight at every occasion?
I think we should impress on Eike early on the importance of making sure to develop her relation with her god, we know how useful it is to have a "friend in high places". And as Head of the EIC will have plenty of opportunities to pursue Shallayan values and cooperate with the Shallayan Church.
BUT, we also know that the relation of a believer with his god is a very personal one. There are many facets to each god. I mean, when were we ever deceptive to Dwarves? How often do we steal in he Karak? Do we live in the shadow or do we try to hog the spotlight at every occasion?
I think we should impress on Eike early on the importance of making sure to develop her relation with her god, we know how useful it is to have a "friend in high places". And as Head of the EIC will have plenty of opportunities to pursue Shallayan values and cooperate with the Shallayan Church.
Nay, our apprentice must surpass us.
Put her on Luitpold's council.
Or Thorgrim's. Either works.
I am interested in how the dynamic will work out as well I just do not think pacifism is in the cards. Then again Ranald says to use only daggers...
There is more than one way to conceptualize one's patron god.
Mopman43
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...are you replying to the right comment?
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....Alright, not knowing enough lore details to argue, I will concede this point.
That said, I think it's still reasonable to state that there's not really any place on Mallus where a chaos cult couldn't spring up amongst your neighbours tomorrow, to give one example.
Even if I were to concede the point of the existence of completely safe areas (now and in future), I will say that if Eike takes over Wilhelmina's share of the EIC, she will most assuredly not qualify as living in one of those areas regardless of her physical location. Her power and importance would make her a target.
At a bare minimum, I would want to see her train to Max/Gretel/Adela levels for self-defense purposes.
Mopman43
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Sure, but my point is that still isn't an every day occurrence. Yes, there is always a chance for violence, but that was also true in historical Europe- there are still places in the Empire where people commonly go about their day-to-day lives without any violence occurring.
Obviously it's much more common than in historical societies, but still, I don't think it's right to assert that "there is no such thing as a life without combat training" in the world. If that was the case, then people across the Empire would have adopted the Dwarf's policy of even the civilians going around equipped for battle, but that's not the case.
I'm not involved in that argument, I'm only speaking generally.
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Whoops. I really need to stop trying to comment while I'm busy. Sorry for the confusion!
But they aren't Grey's. If Eike becomes a Grey they can both analyze the same phenomenon from the same wind, but with distinct impressions. If you don't think that'd be useful... Well we can agree to disagree.
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Resonant
Procrastinator Supreme
@BoneyM Just to confirm, is Eike's age currently supposed to be 11 or 12?
She was described as being 8 years old when we met her in 2482.5 and it's been 4 years since then, plus she received "The Birds&Bees Talk" on 2485.5 which is supposed to happen at 11 years old, no? Thus she should be 12 now.
She was described as being 8 years old when we met her in 2482.5 and it's been 4 years since then, plus she received "The Birds&Bees Talk" on 2485.5 which is supposed to happen at 11 years old, no? Thus she should be 12 now.
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I can field this one, because I asked Boney the same question a while back.
Ten in 2485.5 and eleven in 2486.5 is correct and eight was wrong. Mathilde was estimating, while Wilhelmina knows how old her granddaughter actually is.
Resonant
Procrastinator Supreme
Ah thanks for the citation pickle! That does answer the question, but now I'm confused about when the Quickening ritual happens, because Boney says they happen at Age 10 when a child is considered mature, but later gives a conflicting answer:
I think "hug" is the closest reaction to "I feel you, bro" available. Empathy, rather than sympathy.👍
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What does "culturally celibate" entail? It's still some kind of oath, right? Otherwise, if it was due to Wind influence only, it would just be a habit with exceptions, not a rule.
Eike doesn't need a Grounding Rod from Mathilde. All she needs is Mathilde to tell her to buy a Grounding Rod. Then she asks her grandma for some pocket change and goes out to buy a Grounding Rod.
Eike is currently a Shallyan, but a) Eike is not a cleric or otherwise sworn to that specific goddess, b) joining a mostly secular order and otherwise also capable of going the polytheist route that most Imperials actually do and c) twelve years old with none of her religious beliefs set in stone.
No.
Middenheim has cannon on the battlements despite Ulrican creed denouncing them as cowardly, and the Knights of Taal's Fury have metal weapons and armour even though Taal says they should prefer animal hides. The strictures are not a suicide pact, and all of them can, will, and should be disregarded if following them would hand victory to the forces of Chaos, especially for laypeople. A devout Shallyan Grey Wizard would seek alternatives to violence, but can commit it when necessary for the greater good without going against their faith.
She was born in 75. Dooming and Quickening happens at ten, not eleven, that was a misremembering on my part.
Rules for the Lights, a vow for the Amethysts, and a cultural view in both that sex and its pursuit interferes with the proper workings of their magic.