Lore of the Wyld definitely counts, it's Dhar/Chaos-flavored-Ghur. You could almost consider it an equivalent of Necromancy or Stealth, being a Wind-specific lore tainted by Dark Magic. That said I'm pretty sure you have to be a beastman to use it. Not that it would exactly bar Mathilde from using it, but generally people do not go out of their way to become beastmen.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Lore of the Wyld definitely counts, it's Dhar/Chaos-flavored-Ghur. You could almost consider it an equivalent of Necromancy or Stealth, being a Wind-specific lore tainted by Dark Magic. That said I'm pretty sure you have to be a beastman to use it. Not that it would exactly bar Mathilde from using it, but generally people do not go out of their way to become beastmen.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
When away, who does she give the task to? I assume usually Max or Johann and now that they have gone with her Panoramia or Gunnars.
Is there actually any proof that whatever Morr and his cult are doing is actually in any way effective, let alone pleasant for the souls thus subjected?
And while I personally do trust that Gazul's works were honest and functional I don't know if there's actually any truth at all behind their beloef in the true and race-bound reincarnation of lost souls.
I do enjoy your character deep dive and sophistry a lot, but wouldn't the most honest method to divine her subconscious reasons for choosing as she did and not chosing as she didn't be to look at the IC considerations that came up in the discussion for that vote?
That's what happens when one reads too deeply into just specific glimpses of a character. Because not only would Nurgle be the least likely Chaos God that players would ever vote going for even in quest-ending desperation, BoneyM, who writes Mathilde for us, probably also knows how unpopular Nurgle is and would therefore keep this in mind when thinking of her in such situations.
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- Oklahoma
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- Greece
Honestly, Nurgle may actually be a better planner than Tzeench (yes, really), for while the Plotter plots against himself, his plots do not seem that great/longsighted, they just exist so that he can always say "just as planned", while Nurgle? Nurgle just lets inevitability take its course, being passive and patient and letting life do the rest.
... What are the living or, err, rather,afterliving conditions on said garden, by the way?
Orcs, once again, prove their ability to be orthogonal to every single issue and conflict on Warhammer.
Honestly, I really like how they do it. I get why they are so popular.
They are Less orthogonal in 40k now that I think about it. There every metafaction (using that term metafaction instead of faction because humans, Chaos and maybe Eldar contain more than one faction technically) is orthogonal to every other metafaction anyway but oh well.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
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- At Home
He doesn't get any complaints from the occupants.
Sovereign Hunt
A Concentric Circle
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- Bereft of Name
Really? I read Slaanesh in that.
'I'm afraid of myself because I know I don't know how to stop', and all.
Despair interpretation is still valid tho.
Although, Chaos Gods are so vague with their domains you could probably link anything to any of the Four if you thought at it long enough. By design, presumably.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
That's literally Gunnars. And that's in the event that Mathilde can't mantain her loft anymore, which probably means that the skulls get relocated to wherever the Order of the Guardians usually keep this stuff. But while we are away the skulls are still in the trophy room, which requires maintenance by someone with access. Which could still be Gunnars of course, but might also he someone who wouldn't have to climb that far for no other reason than to boop a bone. Like Pan visiting the Green Tower (or our dog and chair).
Edit: Or maybe the Order of the Guardians has something like a pet hotel for Vampire skulls. I doubt it though.
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- Russia
I find it hard to believe that they knew how to use souls to animate big stone statues that had nothing to do with those souls in life, but couldn't animate bodies that housed those souls for decades.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Hmm. Will Mathilde even be able to communicate with the Yusak? The only common language she might have is Dwarven, and the Yusak are further away from the chaos dwarves than the Dolgan are.
The Kurgen regularly trade with the chaos dwarfs. If they have anyone who trade dwarf is the language most likely to work. Since the factions of destruction trade with the chaos dwarfs.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Maybe the Yusak actually speak normal Dwarven which they learned from Dum.
Maybe we could get a Dolgan interpreter?Maybe the Yusak actually speak normal Dwarven which they learned from Dum.
"Yes, he definitely said 'Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough' Misses 'I am totally a Shaman of the Mountain Ring Clans, honest.' Yup. One hundred percent."
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I do not know why but I suspect the Dolgan would on purpose say things differentlyMaybe we could get a Dolgan interpreter?
"Yes, he definitely said 'Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough' Misses 'I am totally a Shaman of the Mountain Ring Clans, honest.' Yup. One hundred percent."
"Yes the Little sorcerer called your mother fat and said you could not fight at all to save your lives. I do not know why she keeps insulting you."
Mathilde " and make sure they know we will pay them in silver to let us pass their territory."
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for me it is obvious what has happened to dum in these 200 years they have committed the worst sin that a dwarf can do ... they have shaved their beards.
- Location
- Greece
Maybe we could get a Dolgan interpreter?
"Yes, he definitely said 'Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough' Misses 'I am totally a Shaman of the Mountain Ring Clans, honest.' Yup. One hundred percent."
Honestly, lying in front of an Ulgu Shaman sounds like a bad strategy. They can see deception.
It is exceedingly worrying when the little voice in your head telling you to set the world ablaze is also the voice of introspection.
Also we really need to avoid Naggaroth. If ever there was a place that would make Mathilde consider her life and sanity a worthy sacrifice to destroy it is the land of chill.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
- Location
- Greece
Problem with Naggaroth is that Mathilde's sanity and life may well not be enough for that place.
They are a magical superpower that even a LM necromancer wouldn't be able to beat, they probably know the second secret of Dhar, and they can be just as competent and efficient as the chaos Dawi when they want to (ie not right away like the chaos Dawi, but if they survive the alpha strike, which they'll probably will).
They are a real hard target. Even Necrothilde can't take them... at least, not unless she levels up quite a bit more than current Mathilde plus necromancy.
We also don't know how many Hel Fenns or Grim Moors there might be, which object to people using corpses. For that matter, Uzkulak and the Dark Lands sound like a place that... well. Too many tempting bones, sounds too easy, etc.
Even aside from that though, one of the great weaknesses of invading any unknown area which you are not intimately familiar with is... well, all the unknowns. The lack of an expert who knows everything, to guide you through all the things you don't know, and all the things you don't know that you don't know.
I suspect that any grand ambitions of "We just have to raise a grand army and..." can run into a lot of tiny local problems and local details. Erm. On top of all the other details and issues they will run into, too. Like the fact that factions and nations will probably have defenses and emergencies and surprises and possibly superweapons or desperation moves or the like.
Mathilde can't see the Ulgu flowing through their brainymeats, if their brainymeats are a "No Ulgu Allowed" clubhouse full of Ghur!
Even aside from that though, one of the great weaknesses of invading any unknown area which you are not intimately familiar with is... well, all the unknowns. The lack of an expert who knows everything, to guide you through all the things you don't know, and all the things you don't know that you don't know.
I suspect that any grand ambitions of "We just have to raise a grand army and..." can run into a lot of tiny local problems and local details. Erm. On top of all the other details and issues they will run into, too. Like the fact that factions and nations will probably have defenses and emergencies and surprises and possibly superweapons or desperation moves or the like.
... Which is why the interpreter would have to be another shaman! Genius!
Mathilde can't see the Ulgu flowing through their brainymeats, if their brainymeats are a "No Ulgu Allowed" clubhouse full of Ghur!
Presumably if we want to take on nagarond we would become a high tier vampire and then kidnap a few hundred or thousands humans and mass embrace them into a horde of vampire each a spellcaster and a superfast regenerating combatant. Also we could hold their loyalties because sire childe relationships.
After a few decades we would probably implode but I think we can hold them together for the decades it would take to take on the druchi.
After a few decades we would probably implode but I think we can hold them together for the decades it would take to take on the druchi.
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- Greece
That would work, yeah... but no one risks a shaman on a hostile territorry for such a gamble.
That plan does at least have a chance, but also many fault points before the baseline requirements are even achieved and a significant chance of failure even after that.
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I mean, yeah. It's a stupid plan and not very efficient. But my point is if we said fuck it we have a statistically significant chance of taking out the dark elves.
- Location
- Norway
I think that is Mathilde's exaggeration. She can see Ulgu gathering in someone with windsight, which might be deception, also might be uncertainty and confusion, and Mathilde definitely those inspires at times.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Really, if you think about it, 'megalomaniacal supervillain' is the only reasonable mindset to have when using your army of giant undead beasts to batter down the walls of Uzkulak, crushing the puny Fire Dwarves wherever they try to hide in their holes.
I'd be more concerned if Mathilde got to that point and wasn't cackling with dark glee as the forces of Chaos were crushed beneath her boot heel. Being dour and serious at times like that t'wouldn't be natural.
Yes.
Mathilde, /shining a Light spell into the empty sockets of the skull died to the table: "Speak your secrets, skull. Talk, damn you!"
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- Earth