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There was more than one C'tan
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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There was more than one C'tan
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
How does this interact with the fact that Karak Hirn still considers Rangers to be a less than reputable job fitting for the disowned black sheep of the royal family?
Also, how are Ranger forces usually handled in the hierarchy when not a separate army branch?
Can you elaborate on "allied holds"?
Huh. I thought regaining their honor and access to the afterlife was the point of the whole endeavor. If they don't see that as being in the cards or don't want it at all, why stick to the Slayer traditions and not just go on either more efficient suicide missions or just kill yourself directly?
And here I was thinking that in these times even a wrench or table spoon is an acceptable thing to stick into the enemies of the Dawi if nothing else is available.
So excluding outside of specific clan/guild/cult/royal secrets, they don't know anything about the function or potential hazards of the still currently existing ones? Not even something like "reduces and disposes of ambient magic"?
Does that mean that they are completely separate networks or just that the Dwarves have limited access and piggyback on Elven servers for flow only?
If they are completely separate networks then I am a bit confused about the purpose and importance of normal Elven Waystones. I thought they (used to) cover as much of the world as feasible and were important to prevent magical oversaturation.
I'm not sure Borek has any standing beyond "Last Ambassador of a Lost Hold", "Thane in Fact" and maybe "Member of the Nobility".
I'm relatively clueless when it comes to real world military hierarchy, but isn't this similar to the real world with Army + Navy? Or am I ignoring the existence of a civilian Defense Minister/Secretary?
I think the worst examples of this are Karak Azul and Karak Norn, since they both directly compete in recruitment among most troop types.
If this is true then it makes me wonder which King/Hold first decided that elevating some newfangled type of military to independence and a seat at the Council also necessitated demoting the grudge-throwers.
Weren't both Waystone networks built by the two races working together? If yes, why would the Dwarves make their own Waystones have fewer features than that of the bigger network they copied/collaborated on?
Because they didn't trust teleportation (either as a transport or as tactical risk in their karaks)? Or warp shit in general. And they had the underway too.
The better question to ask is if the archmages responsible knew how to modify it for that or added the feature anyway.
The better question to ask is if the archmages responsible knew how to modify it for that or added the feature anyway.
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
I missed/forgot that. Do you remember where we were told that or is it from canon?
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- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
So, I've had a thought, if the dwarf waystone network connections don't take in more power along their route couldn't we make enough distance that the Daemons have almost no chance of troubling where we clog it before discorporating?
or is the need to ride back and break the warp reentry spell before the buildup at the clogged waystone becomes catastrophic the restricting factor?
or is the need to ride back and break the warp reentry spell before the buildup at the clogged waystone becomes catastrophic the restricting factor?
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I think not even Belegar would've known about Waystones if we hadn't told him.
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- Aotearoa
Mathilde has no way of knowing the answer.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I'm still looking for mention in-story, but I've got this.
That doesn't make him a prince. Clan Angrund is a thousand dwarfs, but they're not all counted as princes.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I'd swear there was explicit mention, but I can't find anything,
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Huh. I thought "Waystones are important" would be common knowledge among anyone whose institutions competently fight the forces of Chaos in overland battles. They are after all at the same time a prime target for said forces to corrupt and yet not a prime target for the forces of Order to get rid of on sight. And any competent commander would ask "so why are they important and why shouldn't I just hit them with a cannon whenever I stumble on one" and any competent high caliber politician takes at least some interest in the affairs of competent military commanders.
Mathilde also has no way of knowing that the various networks are completely disconnected or that Waystones in the World Edge Mountains work significantly differently from those back home. Since BoneyM is willing to give us OOC information on this for world-building purposes I thought he'd also be okay with more questions on the subject.
I think that this would only be enough to make him a prince if he either acknowledges that he might be one of the last single digit survivors of his clan or if his clan was already small to begin with. Otherwise all of Clan Angrund would have to be considered Dawi princes because they are all Belegar's kin and in the line of succession for K8P.
@BoneyM, by the way, do we know anything about Belegar's current official heir?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
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- USA
Was it in the novel or something?
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
The Warhammer Fantasy Wikia, the Lexicanum and the Wikipedia.org page on the Gotrek & Felix books all don't mention anything like that.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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The rundown of the major Holds of the Karaz Ankor used to be a threadmarked post, but the threadmark was deleted during a reorganization at some point (EDIT: It's in Collection of Important Information now, see two posts down):
So it seems their military organization is split between "their own, local forces" and "operational command and coordination of its feudatories' much smaller Throngs."
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@BoneyM could you re-threadmark this when you get the chance?
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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Apparently it's now in the Collection of Important Information, which is why it no longer has its own threadmark. Section "History and Lore," heading "Major Holds of the Karaz Ankor."
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- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
I'm not even sure that we know for sure that the dwarf network is disconnected from the Ulthuan one. What happens to types of energy that their runeworks can't use? does it all build up in an unusable reservoir or does it get channeled to Ulthuan?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
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- Earth
Is it stated that there are types of energy that they can't use?
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Just how small are those gates and/or how big the deamonettes? I never imagined the blown out main gate of a Karak to count as close quarters.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
So many levels of knowledge. There is what we the voters know. What Mathilde knows. And what Mathilde can tell without maybe causing a civil war.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
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- America
That's what we get for playing a Grey Wizard. Worse when we're a Lord Magister who serves a Dwarf King.