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- Aotearoa
That's not at all how I interpreted this-
Some of the other dozen wizards may, though, and we've not even spoken to all of them yet.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- Finland
So we should build Pan a doomtower?
I'm in favor.
- Location
- Aotearoa
My reservations about bringing the Expediton to where we're doing the clogging- if that's even possibly in the terrain?- include we'd be sharing that technique with Journeymen, probably not all of whom will have had the proper Waystone safety course we took. Or is Clogging not something someone with average Windsight could watch and learn of?
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State secret; talk to College heads if you want to know more; telling anyone beyond them will be met with consequences.
Borek might have the standing to ask pointed questions in the Karaz Ankor but other than him (and Asarnil and Deathfang) there's nobody who can't be legally ordered around to a certain extent.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Huh. So any energy being stolen and used at karak vlag is another drain on the Ankor Zhuf-powered Area Management Assistant Routine behind Thorgrims eyelids, then?
Obviously not something we'd know about, but it stands to reason.
Oh, that explains why (iirc) everpeak hasn't sent much in the way of aid to the expedition: Thorgrim already "knows" it's gone, because with karak vlags routing point being redirected, he's getting a no-connection message from karag dum.
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Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
You know what's really funny? This is all Ruprecht junior's fault. If he hadn't asked that question, we'd still be stuck on the "give me a few months and several major experts" answer to dealing with the hold.
Yes, it stands to reason that
(this being OOC info, Mathilde has no idea the Karaz Ankor has a HUD)
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I think people are too optimistic about being able to turtle, but considering the mobility and potency of the forces available it might not matter much.
Specifically i'm thinking that the Slaneeshi sorceror might be able to make a totem or something else that sustains a army for a bit until they wreck a city (or us), simply because that would be their plan anyway when they needed it. Now i'm not sure if they'd need storm of magic conditions but it makes sense that a 'backdoor' that requires only cultist armies might not be that good and the perfectionism of the demon-god involved would make it invest to solve that.
If you want to turtle, i'd personally do it in front of the gates or a similar tactically 'fuck you specifically' position for getting out of there and if 3 days don't cut it, go Solid Snake Mathilde.
Specifically i'm thinking that the Slaneeshi sorceror might be able to make a totem or something else that sustains a army for a bit until they wreck a city (or us), simply because that would be their plan anyway when they needed it. Now i'm not sure if they'd need storm of magic conditions but it makes sense that a 'backdoor' that requires only cultist armies might not be that good and the perfectionism of the demon-god involved would make it invest to solve that.
If you want to turtle, i'd personally do it in front of the gates or a similar tactically 'fuck you specifically' position for getting out of there and if 3 days don't cut it, go Solid Snake Mathilde.
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I dunno. I've seen plenty of people mention how they want to plunge Mathilde's sword into the Horned Rat, or pound it with her mighty rod.
The spotlight is one of Mathlide's favorites for doing some pious work.
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- Aotearoa
I have no spur
To prick the sides of my intent, but only
Vaulting ambition, which o'erleaps itself
And falls on the other Karak
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
I just want to let you know that I saw what you did here and I appreciate it.
That's the plan:
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The plan i've read assumes you can fort up at a waystone distant enough that the mass of demons 'evaporates' and can't threaten a nearby city or attack the expedition.
I'm just saying that might not be the case, because any such surprise demonic army would have to consider that they might want to last more than 3 days to attack a city and have solved the problem long ago.
I'm just saying that might not be the case, because any such surprise demonic army would have to consider that they might want to last more than 3 days to attack a city and have solved the problem long ago.
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- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Except he knows that Karak Vlag has disappeared for its own, unrelated reasons. With Karag Vlag off the network, he wouldn't be getting signals routed from Karag Dum one way or the other, woudl he?
Then again...
This.
Given that Thorgrim clearly works on "maximize grudge return on dwarven lives invested" logic because he's basically planning the slow self-sacrifice of the dwarven race to eliminate as many grudges as possible before the dwarven race is lost due to being unable to protect their own souls*...
Well, he has every reason to think Karag Dum is lost, and no reason to think it's an efficient way to settle grudges.
Then again, he could have reasonably inferred all that without the HUD; it isn't giving him any information he didn't have already.
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*(and hell, reduced population may actually lower the power demand on the Runes of Valaya and thus, grimly, let the dwarves survive longer)...
FixedSo where'd the other sixty go?
'Keeping a Daemonic army together' is not the domain of slapping a totem together. Under natural conditions it takes a Storm of Magic to allow Daemons not to fall apart south of the Wastes and if Chaos could make Storms of Magic on demand they would already have won.
To clarify my understanding of this since it must link into the wider network somehow in order for "clog the waystone" to possibly have any effect.
The Karak waystone network essentially has 2 features.
1. It acts as larger nodes along the wider waystone network in each Karak.
2.As payment for 1. it utilises magic collected within the Karak's (and only the Karaks) to power major dwarven rune constructs.*
Essentially, the ancient Elves paid for dwarven help in building it and using the Karaks as nodes by letting the Dawi use a portion of the networks power (anything collected at a Karak) to power their own stuff?
*Such as the Runes of Valaya or certain other ancestral works.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
That is just some totally platonic rod-pounding by (im)mortal enemies, nothing to read into there.
95 knights + 95 wolves.
100 knights + 100 kittybirds.
1 prince + 1 dragon.
13 wizards + 2 kittybirds.
250(253? Are the leaders included?) Dwarfs.
Not sure which groups you are declaring soulless but I suspect people would object whichever it it.
This seems the worst of all worlds. You have two equally senior 'martials' who can bicker with each other. But at least one has multiple wildly divergent forces under their command and thus need semi-independent underlings they can delegate to, so you don't even get the advantage of specialised commanders.
…they thought this up back when their only troop types were 'Dawi with axes' and 'Dawi with grudge-throwers' didn't they? And at this point it is 'Tradition' and immutable.
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10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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- Present
Does the brightest light not cast the sharpest shadows?
..... I'm now not going to change it out of spite.
because I'm spiteful.
and because it's easier on the maths to keep mount and rider together.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
Depends on whether the power consumption is based on the amount of Runes it has to power (aka, the number of Holds it has to defend) or the number of Dwarves who fall under that Rune.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Also random thought, but we no probably won't even be screwing up Borek's schedule too much, since we have Rite of Way to speed things up a bit more and still haven't revealed it. We'll save an extra Karak, and it won't cost us time!
- Location
- California
I'm a bit confused by this. I was under the impression that Throgrim only got his HUD after Karak Vlag was already missing. In that case he might never have seen Karag Dum connected to the network in any capacity. Did Vlag disappear after he became High King?
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Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
Reckon we can replace it with "the
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