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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Andres110 said:
Ulricanism isn't more civilisation friendly. Look at Middenheim for proof. The reason Sigmar worship took off isn't because it's better for civilisation, it's because it was way more pro-noble than the Ulrican faith, which the nobles liked since it justified their power and gave them more of it.
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Fair enough. Either way doesn't change my point.
 
065tdsa said:
You laugh, but things breaking down to the point that Mathilde has to keep a successor state of the Empire alive with the full power of the Liber Mortis is one of the most likely paths for her to become a Goddess, just because that's the sort of context and the feats it would take to dislodge existing faiths in favor of Mathilde.
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then end of times mathilde?.
if she manages to live until then.
 
domains are needed

God of Radicalism

a god can develop

Vengeful Spirit!Mathilde

reap the rewards of godhood

an objective both possible and worth pursuing

pray

minor diety

god of magic

become a Goddess
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All these thoughts on Divinity.
You can certainly tell Mathilde just had her Avatar trait pinged and the barrier to the Aethyr is weakened. :)
 
All this party pooping on goddess Mathilde, guess I'll have to look to other powerful lore characters to imagine Mathilde surpassing.

Glances at Nagash.

Aboard the Omegahugger train it is.
 
065tdsa said:
You laugh, but things breaking down to the point that Mathilde has to keep a successor state of the Empire alive with the full power of the Liber Mortis is one of the most likely paths for her to become a Goddess, just because that's the sort of context and the feats it would take to dislodge existing faiths in favor of Mathilde.
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The only reason that I joke is because I have no faith the thread would ever go for it.

SV would never be worshipped as a Deity of "Making Omegahugger's dreams come true"...
 
Being a warhammer god is a mugs game. Just be immortal and too powerful to be a PC, like several characters (for instance that alchemist dickwaffle that dies and always returns and is not a vampire).

Better yet learn to open a interdimensional gateway and go 'fuck this shit, i'm out'.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
I'm just saying, if we are playing the 'what god would mathy be' game while waiting for the update.

we need to think 'what would the people on the ground think she is the god of?'

not 'what we, the players, think she is the god of.'

because if anything about AOS Sigmar is connected to WF Sigmar... we then know that gods don't really get much chose about what they are the god of (I just want to hit stuff with my hammer! why so much paperwork!')
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It's the other way around, really. Sigmar is the ultimate CIV player. His greatest contributions to society were working roads, a universal language, and a functional calendar system.

Conan the Grammarian.
 
Alliterate said:
All these thoughts on Divinity.
You can certainly tell Mathilde just had her Avatar trait pinged and the barrier to the Aethyr is weakened. :)
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Honestly I'm hoping that might help us in getting an upgrade to it when the Expedition ends, if we didn't already have one from looking at the Coin. Considering it was already a +10 to protection from one of the most dangerous things in this setting—unwilling corruption—it jumped from a really nice thing to have into priority number one for me.
 
FallenPears said:
All this party pooping on goddess Mathilde, guess I'll have to look to other powerful lore characters to imagine Mathilde surpassing.

Glances at Nagash.
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I think Mathilde has a different legendary Nehekaran in mind.
BoneyM said:
Settra, Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds...

For short.
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BoneyM said:
Official Titles: Lady Magister of the Grey Order, Knight of Stirland, Thane of Karak Eight Peaks, Loremaster of Karak Eight Peaks, Court Wizard of Karak Eight Peaks.
Other Titles: The Dämmerlichtreiter, Sängerkritisch, Dawongr, Azrildrekked, the Silver Savage, Dawizhufokri.
Former Titles: Spymistress of Stirland, War-Councillor of the Expedition to Karak Eight Peaks.
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Meowthilde, Stoneseer, Clogger of Waystones, Recoverer of Holds, Redirecter of Expeditions...
 
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Ericwinter said:
Honestly I'm hoping that might help us in getting an upgrade to it when the Expedition ends, if we didn't already have one from looking at the Coin. Considering it was already a +10 to protection from one of the most dangerous things in this setting—unwilling corruption—it jumped from a really nice thing to have into priority number one for me.
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I don't Avatar actually works against unwilling corruption.

What it does is make it easier for Mathilde to handle/avoid/maneuvre around Divine energies, like when Slaneesh sent out a huge fart that smelled like what-ever-you-like-enough-to-stand-still-for-a-few-secnds-while-the-daemonettes-cut-you-down.

It will probably protect us against some upstart deity going "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" on us, but that is not a common occurance.
 
Omegahugger said:
I don't Avatar actually works against unwilling corruption.

What it does is make it easier for Mathilde to handle/avoid/maneuvre around Divine energies, like when Slaneesh sent out a huge fart that smelled like what-ever-you-like-enough-to-stand-still-for-a-few-secnds-while-the-daemonettes-cut-you-down.

It will probably protect us against some upstart deity going "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" on us, but that is not a common occurance.
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the important thing that Avatar does is that Mathilde will notice if a deity tries something.
And as seen with memetic effects you can only fight them if you notice them.

Sure, she might still use the fight depending on several factors, but without it she might not even notice and lose per default.
 
Omegahugger said:
I don't Avatar actually works against unwilling corruption.

What it does is make it easier for Mathilde to handle/avoid/maneuvre around Divine energies, like when Slaneesh sent out a huge fart that smelled like what-ever-you-like-enough-to-stand-still-for-a-few-secnds-while-the-daemonettes-cut-you-down.

It will probably protect us against some upstart deity going "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" on us, but that is not a common occurance.
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...That's basically the same thing? Like, the roll was Temptation—with a capital T—and narratively happened when we got hit with a wave of Slannesh flavored power. Presumably straight-up corruption would be the same thing, just more of it?
Whatever form it takes, we proved a +10 bonus in resisting Chaos. I want more of that, more often.
 
Robotninja said:
Becoming an incarnation of Ulgu would be amazing.
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There's a (not very good) cataclysm spell that temporarily transforms a character into a lesser incarnation of a Wind.
BurnNote said:
Developing the Ulgu equivalent of Gilding is on the long term Todo list of at least some questers.
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I think that much more investigation of arcane marks would be required, along with a lot more knowledge of the nature of the soul.
 
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BurnNote said:
I can actually see this as a result. Stone is an excellent insulator of magic, and therefore greatly favored by the dwarfs. Plus, it's pretty impressive.
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Considering we basically walked up to a blank wall of stone, went "yeah that's a lot of magic being used for something nasty", and then fixed it, I have to agree.

SCO said:
Fantasy C'Tan is (thematically) Nagash so probably not.
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There are multiple C'tan, as I understand, and Natasha is only tied to one Wind in particular...
 
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