Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Wouldn't matter, Qrech to be allowed to live would have to repudiate his allegiance to the horned rat and his clan.
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Oh no I wasn't referring to Qrech, I meant how would they react in general.
It would still be of academic interest to the loremasters themselves. For that matter it would also be relevant if someone manages to get far enough in a warren to reach a breeder and unlike the Mors situation they do find baby skaven.
Mopman43
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Johann, Regimand (unofficially).
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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I'm reasonably sure it's already known to at least some that the Skaven aren't inherently evil- look at Kazador's comments back when we found the rat-mothers. So I don't think it'd really come as a surprise that a Skaven isolated from their toxic culture would show positive changes.
Interesting speculations. Nothing actionable but fascinating nonetheless. Bit odd that they didn't give an opinion on the chaos gods.
So are Hysh elementals not a thing? Or is there some other reason Cython can't hunt and or eat them?
The thought occurs that he is probably one of the most contented and generally happy Skaven alive. A fine reward for breaking the secret of Queekish.
Oh come on.
[X] Plan to set up EIC gunpowder production in Stirland
K8P has its own sewage that can be turned to productive uses in good time.
Plus K8P really doesn't need more gold. Or won't once the silk weavers get their act together.
Plus II while K8P is incredibly hard to take it isn't that hard to isolate. I would rather not have strategic resource production so far out in the wilderness.
TimEd
Meteor maker
I think this chapter above all shows just how much time has passed. I think it would have been better if Wilhelmina described Mahilde a bit though, either to say just how much she's changed physically, or just how little compared to the time passed.
Anyway, time passing. I think Eike is less slow, and more of a person who just has not gotten practical, no hand holding experience yet.
On the gong farmers, I think k8p related, to make us above reproach, but also to supply k8p's needs for gunpowder. I'm not sure on if we shpupd just straight up sell, or work towards a factory (and the location of said factory is another issue entirely).
Anyway, time passing. I think Eike is less slow, and more of a person who just has not gotten practical, no hand holding experience yet.
On the gong farmers, I think k8p related, to make us above reproach, but also to supply k8p's needs for gunpowder. I'm not sure on if we shpupd just straight up sell, or work towards a factory (and the location of said factory is another issue entirely).
Winds don't have naturally-occurring elementals, and the unnaturally-occurring ones require a rare, difficult, and unpalatable ritual to create.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
It's literally Mathilde's business, as in she makes money from stuff like that.
[X] Plan to set up EIC gunpowder production in Stirland
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@BoneyM Great chapter. Lots of world building meat to sink our teeth in. And I also like how some mysteries currently feel like they are quite out of reach, while also allowing clear paths for us to at least scratch at their surface if we really want to.
I did kind of miss Mathilde's perspective in the Qretch section though. It seemed like she pretty much just walked into his cell as an exposition device to let Qretch exposit his ambitions to us, just prodding him a bit to continue. How does she feel about Qretch, his ambitions and his overall situation? How feasible does she think his dreams are? And what kind of image does she project to him in this situation?
Another minor quibble is that I had difficulty telling Mathilde's and Cython's parts of the dialogue apart. But that might be more due to my reading comprehension and the fact that I was reading this chapter at work (very slow day today). I'll probably reread at least that section at home.
Winds can be fickle too, but they don't want worship, don't care about someone "using" their power through technique and trickery instead of pleas and bargaining, and generally behave more like a motivated force of nature than a disembodied and powerful patron.
I did kind of miss Mathilde's perspective in the Qretch section though. It seemed like she pretty much just walked into his cell as an exposition device to let Qretch exposit his ambitions to us, just prodding him a bit to continue. How does she feel about Qretch, his ambitions and his overall situation? How feasible does she think his dreams are? And what kind of image does she project to him in this situation?
Another minor quibble is that I had difficulty telling Mathilde's and Cython's parts of the dialogue apart. But that might be more due to my reading comprehension and the fact that I was reading this chapter at work (very slow day today). I'll probably reread at least that section at home.
It's more the other way around. Gods are unreliable because they are a bit like people. But they do in fact give people stuff. And one of the things they want in return is worship.
Winds can be fickle too, but they don't want worship, don't care about someone "using" their power through technique and trickery instead of pleas and bargaining, and generally behave more like a motivated force of nature than a disembodied and powerful patron.
What happened to Ishernos according to canon?
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I'd think it's actually about the loss of faith, if it maps onto real world events. So the Elves start out believing all these things are caused by gods, but s their knowledge of science and such grows, they think less of it is, and so the gods stop being worshipped and are destroyed.
The name Ishernos sounds like Isha and Kurnous in one very strange coat tbh.
If Mathilde knew Classical, she'd probably have a better chance at figuring out what it means. IIRC, Classical is what Tylos would have spoken and written in. I think it's unlikely to be a number though, as I'd be very surprised if there are no numbers at all on the coin, for dating.
Actually, it might be the equivalent of the Roman "SC" which was just them getting into fiat currency. Which would be a cool tidbit, although not world shaking.
Resonant
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Typo: fill -> will
Just want to point out, setting up a K8P factory won't be as impressive as you might hope per Boney's statement that it'll produce human-quality gunpowder, because K8P is outsourcing the work to EIC.
If we want to get highest standard Dwarven quality, it's better to let Gotri work on it and we can chip in, they don't need us to help as much as Stirland do with the new Repeater guns.
Also it'd be setting up a long-distance supply chain since we're shipping from Stirland to K8P, and knowing how unstable the Border Princes and nearby Badlands can be, it's generally not a good idea for long-term security with strategic resource production.
[X] Plan to set up EIC gunpowder production in Stirland
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To be honest, if we're talking about above reproach behavior, we should invest the Niter Production into Stirland, because we kinda co-opted it from under Roswita's nose during the transition. The Gong Farmers were initially paired with the Stirland Watch iirc, and we separated them when we got fired as Spymaster.
Also our alleged loyalties are supposed to be to the Empire first, so it wouldn't look out of place. K8P has plenty of options for producing their own gunpowder, Stirland less so.
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DarkB0lt666
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It might even have the opposite effect after all manthings are enemies, food and slaves, and fellow skaven are also all those things AND competition (so best to stab them twice)
Yeah. That was a thing going through my head even as I said that. "But hmm, no, that's probably not right -- it'd probably have a date somewhere. I guess it's just because I'm thinking of Roman numerals that I'm thinking this."
Maybe? Not sure what the Roman SC thing is, but neat if true.
I had a lot more planned before I realized what Qrech would want, and that drastically shortened what that interaction was going to be. And I deliberately avoided giving a 'canon' answer for how to feel about him.
I based Tylos' coins on early Greek ones, which didn't seem to ever have more than a few letters. From my (admittedly brief) research, it seems like dates on coins didn't really become a thing until cast coinage, and Tylos' coins are hammered.
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Split up into Taal (male, winter and summer) and Rhya (female, spring and autumn), which is why the two of them are still worshipped almost exclusively together. Some scholars also seem to think that Ulric was part of Ishernos as well (perhaps the male winter face?), explaining why Ishernos symbol was the triskele. Some still worship Ishernos today, though.
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[x] Plan to set up EIC gunpowder production in Stirland
Vertical integration of Stirlands Firearm production is a go! Cut that overhead Roswita!
K8P could probably use a production facility too, cuts out the ability for piracy to distribute high-quality Gunpowder to people we don't like.
Vertical integration of Stirlands Firearm production is a go! Cut that overhead Roswita!
K8P could probably use a production facility too, cuts out the ability for piracy to distribute high-quality Gunpowder to people we don't like.
Sir_Travelsalot
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I'm quite sure that removing minted coinage from circulation by melting it down in mass quantities is highly illegal, even in the time period the Warhammer setting borrows from.Or we melt it down and give Roswita a really neat New floor surprise!
[X] Plan to set up EIC gunpowder production in Stirland
Sure, why not.
Sure, why not.
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Its not illegal today? <Shrug> Perhaps youre right.
... Although im quite sure the dawi would recast any coinage theyd aquire from umgi maybe.