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- Greece
Fair enough, I was just curious because valley fog does not actually seem to be that uncommon of a phenomenon, and it seemed to fit.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Fair enough, I was just curious because valley fog does not actually seem to be that uncommon of a phenomenon, and it seemed to fit.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I mean, if Roswita were to say that "If you were a guy you'd be my perfect husband", I would absolutely file it as a come-on and use it to argue that Roswita is a closeted bisexual.
EDIT: Unless she followed it up with how the politics of marrying a female wizard would be horrible, I suppose.
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- [REDACTED]- United States of America
If she went off on a tangent about that being what makes the relationship untenable rather than orientation I'd vote to (gently) slap her over the head and take her out on a date. Fuck politics, and let it be something to sort out at a later date one step at a time.
Mathilde deserves someone who cares about her dammit-- who aren't questers from beyond the fourth wall vicariously living out there high-fantasy fantasies through her.
(But we all know Pan-am airways and Mathilde is the OTP of course.)
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Hey now! Not all of us are living out our fantasies through Mathilde.
... Everytime I try the thread shoots me down. ;_;
Wait, would it then be more accurate to say that I am unliving out my fantasies through her?
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- USA
I thought Hubert was the one with a flight spell?
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- Canada
The phrase 'most well-liked living human by non-traditional Dwarves' is interestingly specific. Is there a living human that the traditional Dwarves generally agree that they like better? Because I don't remember hearing about any other legendary Dwarf-friends in this quest, and we're the one who gets called in to brief high-ranking diplomats on the subject of Dwarves.
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- Norway
Also there's an older genre term 'portal fantasy' which LWW and others previously fell under, so there was no reason to register them as 'isekai' when that term moved in from Japanese to seemingly denote something else at first.
The citizens and officials of Tobaro have proven themselves adequate for generations.
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- He/They
If she followed it up with talking about politics and how others would view it I'd definitely understand the "closeted bisexual" standpoint, but without that it just sounds like a pretty normal compliment to me. Then again, I'm not exactly great at picking up flirting in the real world so what do I know
I'm assuming the count of Averland is the traditional dwarf pal, nice long family line of manlings willing to throw down with Orcs along side dwarfs.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Am I correct in thinking that the next tier of windsight we grab would make that title undisputed?
Tasoli
Life is for Living
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- Behind the Keyboard.
I thought a fog that skims the surface and carries the wizard would work, then thought to shape that fog to look like motorcycle and finally realized that is the shadowsteed. (Fogsteed?).
New spells are hard yo.
Perhaps. Depends what that 'tier' actually represents.
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- Greece
... Don't the two terms practically mean the same thing tho? Just in different languages?
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Definitely related subgenres, but there are noticeable differences that have developed between the two.
Isekai almost always means "You are now living in this other world and it's likely permanent"; possibly including reincarnation into a world-appropriate form.
Portal Fantasy means that you have a way in to this new world, and (eventually) back out again, and you pretty much universally enter as yourself.
The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe is an absolute Portal Fantasy, the titular wardrobe being the portal that allows repeated transit. Some later stories lean slightly more Isekai as they live a whole life in the new world - but ultimately they do still return to their old life, changed for the experience.
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- Norway
Depends on whom you ask.
The broad interpretation has them meaning the same thing.
The narrow interpretation has 'portal fantasy' being stories where the protagonists travel to another world, usually through a literal portal, sometimes in a spaceship or in a tornado. Lion Witch Wardrobe, Wizard of Oz, Barsoom, Lest Darkness Fall would go here. There's some emphasis on the other world being a distinct place to travel to and adapt to, with both existing in a meaningful sense. In the older ones, you particularly see the protagonist(s) having to learn the local language and otherwise orient themselves and figure out their role in the new world, sometimes going back to Earth and visiting back and forth several times.
Whereas narrowly interpreted 'isekai' (in English) tends to be more about the protagonist getting plopped directly into the other world, the stereotype being 'hit by a truck, reincarnate', sometimes summoned by a ritual, frequently either bestowed with instant local understanding by the summoning spell or having dedicated expositors nearby to explain what's going on and why. There's more of a lean towards distinct "Chosen Ones" specifically calling out the protagonist. Earth is usually permanently lost, sometimes considered to be downright fantasy or written off as a dream in-universe.
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This is not as much of a problem as you think it is: clearly we need a flight spell that only works underground.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I'm not too sure about this?
I mean, the most popular isekai anime according to the Japanese is Spirited Away, which definitely has a large "how do I get back home" is very much part of the plot. 12 Kingdoms is also up there (as it should be), and travel between the two worlds in that is, if not common, then at least a well enough known phenomena that multiple characters do so.
Who knows, maybe we will find out that the old world is covered in napping ugl dragons!
BoneyM's Quest School
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- Norway
Spirited Away strikes me as a bit of an edge case, it's more of a foreign country than another world outright. Also "according to the Japanese" seems likely to use the broad overlapping definition by default unless the Japanese imported porutaro fanatasi to their own vocabulary in turn. Please excuse my mangled impression of a Japanese loanword.
Considering having the third panel say "But most [threads] have a life expectancy of"?So on the one hand, BoneyM's advice was both good and a little heartwarming but on the other hand you can't beat the classics.
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- Poland
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- He/Him
Now, do note: the fast update speed is important, but there are exceptions. Some can update like, once a year (or even less), and get constant stream of posts regardless (though the updates are massive).So on the one hand, BoneyM's advice was both good and a little heartwarming but on the other hand you can't beat the classics
See BACHHSCQ. "Move slowly, like an avalanche" would fit here.
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Does Kragg count as a traditional or non-traditional dwarf?