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OP said that we must extoll the virtues of our chosen romance option, so can anyone redpill me on Johann?
Here's a post I made about Johann's scrappiness and why it's a great match for Mathilde.

Woke up, vote still open, vote still ludicrously close. Rip my productivity today, I'm gonna be watching the 3rd-6th place dance.
 
I mean is having multiple dates really before deciding to enter a relationship really that unreasonable? It's not IRL but for some reason quests always seem to go with this romantic mono-focus like one date leads to inevitable marriage.
This is why there was a round of sorta-romantic-but-not-really interactions with everybody - BoneyM deliberately wrote those to try and avoid inducing mono-focus in the quester base, and was also one of the main reasons people lobbied to give every romantic option a try before getting to a point of route-locking.

So technically we've already done so - I'm sure than whichever party or parties win the ROMANCE vote would consider our previous interactions as the first date in the relationship.

Cython doesn't wear any (as far as we know)
He doesn't need to - Cython just has to let Mathilde ride him, at which point not only does Cython have a hat (Mathilde) but he'd also have a case of hatception because his hat (Mathilde) would also have a hat (Abel's Witch Hunter hat). Clearly this is the superior option.
 
He doesn't need to - Cython just has to let Mathilde ride him, at which point not only does Cython have a hat (Mathilde) but he'd also have a case of hatception because his hat (Mathilde) would also have a hat (Abel's Witch Hunter hat). Clearly this is the superior option.
Cython just keeps being a better and better pick the longer the conversation goes on.
 
That'll be 8th edition then.

Are you pushing Vorag forward a thousand years or so or having him concurrent to Strygos?

(I apologize if you're finding the entirely meaningless questions annoying, I've just always been fascinated by how needlessly-contradictory the Strygos timelines are, literally none of them are consistent)

Vorag's backstory involves munching on a Von Carstein over two thousands years before the Von Carsteins existed, so yeah, his timeline definitely needs adjusting if he's going to be part of the quest.
 
He doesn't need to - Cython just has to let Mathilde ride him, at which point not only does Cython have a hat (Mathilde) but he'd also have a case of hatception because his hat (Mathilde) would also have a hat (Abel's Witch Hunter hat). Clearly this is the superior option.
That's not what you'd call "matching" our hat game, now is it?

EDIT: Hat envy is a serious problem and you guys have no idea how many relationships I have seen falling apart on that account. The answer is none as nobody I know have both hats and significant others
 
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This is why there was a round of sorta-romantic-but-not-really interactions with everybody - BoneyM deliberately wrote those to try and avoid inducing mono-focus in the quester base, and was also one of the main reasons people lobbied to give every romantic option a try before getting to a point of route-locking.

So technically we've already done so - I'm sure than whichever party or parties win the ROMANCE vote would consider our previous interactions as the first date in the relationship.

I don't really agree that it's the same. I would like to actually play the field, you know date several people to see how compatible we are romantically. This is a thing people do IRL and I think it is much more reasonable than setting our proverbial cap on the first person we date like an eighteenth century debutante.
 
He was rather busy being dead at the time.
I don't think we know when Vlad came back? He died during the battle with Nehekhara, then was alive some time later. He was alive not long after the fall of Strygos.

At any rate, I just meant that it was a Vampire Vlad has sired at some point. Maybe back in Lahmia.
 
[X] Belegar, to discuss the northern Karaks and the Expedition.
[X] [ROMANCE] Magister Johann
[X] Kasmir, to see how he's keeping himself busy in Sylvania.
[X] Barak Varr, to watch the progress of the canal.
[X] Eike Hochschild, to get to know your future business partner.
[X] Elder Hluodwica, High Priestess of Esmerelda and civilian leader of the Eight Peaks Halflings.
[X] Follow up on your donation of the Skaven organ-vat, and see what has been made of it.
 
What is the potential of romancing a dragon tho? Is Mathilde going to hatch eggs?
I'm not sure we even know what gender the dragon is.
That said, even while i am opposed to dragon romance in this instance, potential of romancing a dragon is getting to romance a dragon, wether or not it involves children or physical intimacy is unimportant.
 
I don't really agree that it's the same. I would like to actually play the field, you know date several people to see how compatible we are romantically. This is a thing people do IRL and I think it is much more reasonable than setting our proverbial cap on the first person we date like an eighteenth century debutante.
On an in-fiction level, I sympathize. On a meta level, I am okay enough with most of the possibilities that I don't think it's worth it to try to date around before picking a partner; extending the period of time before we're locked in to someone's route just seems stressful for the thread and really unpleasant for the people who don't want romance. So unless Pan's date goes really badly, I'll be advocating to lock her in so we can get the exploratory phase of romance over with.
What is the potential of romancing a dragon tho? Is Mathilde going to hatch eggs?
Romance without sexuality is a thing; a lot of people have written about how their votes for the dragon are rooted in attraction for a being of power, intelligence, and experience, and a strong wish for that being's special regard as well. It isn't my thing at all, but I get it.

(There are also the people who have written things along the lines of "this is too funny not to pick" or "doing it for the meme," but those are thankfully a minority.)
 
My top pick would have been no romance, Pan is my second pick, my 3rd and 4th are not in the running.
But most of all, i want this to be done with so we can move on, this vote has been, well, not the worst we've had, anywhere near, but it has been pretty bad and extending it does not sound like a good time.
 
What is the potential of romancing a dragon tho? Is Mathilde going to hatch eggs?
People have pointed out the difference between romance and reproduction and all that, but completely aside from anything to do with Cython I should note that I would really like to find and hatch a dragon egg at some point, because baby dragon sounds really cool. Also I'm curious whether we could end up with an Ulgu dragon by raising it and teaching it magic eventually, but that's a bit too mad sciency to be a real argument without coming off weird.
I mean, adoption has been pointed out as a perfectly viable option for children, especially considering the two front-runners aren't really physically capable of reproducing with Mathilde, and the Supreme Patriarch can hardly be a bad example to follow.
 
My top pick would have been no romance, Pan is my second pick, my 3rd and 4th are not in the running.
But most of all, i want this to be done with so we can move on, this vote has been, well, not the worst we've had, anywhere near, but it has been pretty bad and extending it does not sound like a good time.

While I do get the frustration I'm not sure driving Mathilde's behavior on the basis of 'the voices in her head are getting bored of this now'. It's just... I would like to see someone date in these CK2 and CK2 adjacent quests for once not latch on to a first choice and decide you are going to marry them. It feels more generally realistic to how people actually engage romantically.
 
People have pointed out the difference between romance and reproduction and all that, but completely aside from anything to do with Cython I should note that I would really like to find and hatch a dragon egg at some point, because baby dragon sounds really cool. Also I'm curious whether we could end up with an Ulgu dragon by raising it and teaching it magic eventually, but that's a bit too mad sciency to be a real argument without coming off weird.
I mean, adoption has been pointed out as a perfectly viable option for children, especially considering the two front-runners aren't really physically capable of reproducing with Mathilde, and the Supreme Patriarch can hardly be a bad example to follow.
I'm totally onboard with adopting a baby dragon egg.
Don't need Cython for that btw, i bet Pan would be open for raising a giant firebreathing baby.
At minimum, the lack of diapers should be a major bonus. :V
 
Hey @BoneyM I've been meaning to ask about something for the next turn's actions. Would this:

[ ] JOHANN: Learn a skill: Train his magesight to see through Mathilde's Pall of Darkness.

be valid task for Johann if paired with this personal action:

[ ] Try to see through Pall of Darkness with your improved magical senses.

The intent obviously being that the two of them would be able to fight together inside the darkness, maximizing their mutual attacks against effectively blinded foes. (And maybe improve Johann's ability to see through any similar magical sight obstructions.) Main reason I want to check is to make sure Johann can't already see through Pall of Darkness.
 
While I do get the frustration I'm not sure driving Mathilde's behavior on the basis of 'the voices in her head are getting bored of this now'. It's just... I would like to see someone date in these CK2 and CK2 adjacent quests for once not latch on to a first choice and decide you are going to marry them. It feels more generally realistic to how people actually engage romantically.
"Voices in mathilde's head can't ever agree on a thing so nothing is ever resolved" is no better.
Like, are you honestly saying that, if your vote wins, you would then champion not committing and instead romancing other people at the same time?
Plenty of people marry their first love, plenty of people never fall in love at all.
And we already had Mathilde doing the rounds of seeing everyone.
 
Hey @BoneyM I've been meaning to ask about something for the next turn's actions. Would this:

[ ] JOHANN: Learn a skill: Train his magesight to see through Mathilde's Pall of Darkness.

be valid task for Johann if paired with this personal action:

[ ] Try to see through Pall of Darkness with your improved magical senses.

The intent obviously being that the two of them would be able to fight together inside the darkness, maximizing their mutual attacks against effectively blinded foes. (And maybe improve Johann's ability to see through any similar magical sight obstructions.) Main reason I want to check is to make sure Johann can't already see through Pall of Darkness.

It would be easier to teach it to Johann after Mathilde figures out how to do it. She's got better Magesight and knows Ulgu a lot better than Johann does.
 
I'm totally onboard with adopting a baby dragon egg.
Don't need Cython for that btw, i bet Pan would be open for raising a giant firebreathing baby.
At minimum, the lack of diapers should be a major bonus. :V
Hence why I said completely aside from anything to do with Cython. And it would probably be mist or shadow breathing, if we raised it Ulgu. Although... hmm. I should note that there's a representative from six of the eight winds—seven if you count Cython and eight if we get lucky and bring home an Amber from the expedition—in Eight Peaks, and Mathilde might in the future have access to elven Archmages. Has there ever been a High Magic dragon?
 
"Voices in mathilde's head can't ever agree on a thing so nothing is ever resolved" is no better.
Like, are you honestly saying that, if your vote wins, you would then champion not committing and instead romancing other people at the same time?

Yes actually, in fact I fully expect the dragon to rebuff Mathilde's advances, I think that is more likely than not, but the attempt will make for an interesting narrative and help build character. As for people marrying their first love, yes it does happen if not very often, but I have seen that in quests many times before.

I would argue that one of the best thing to happen to Mathilde as a well rounded character was Van Hall's death, the tragedy both detailed the the path of lest resistance and allowed her to confront some interesting demons and temptations
 
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