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Battle magic?
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Battle magic?
Like how it's technically possible that a tornado going through a junkyard could build a car.
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Yes, but it helps if what you wanted was daemons everywhere.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
So what you're saying is that it is possible?
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- Greece
I wonder if that needs a LM level clearance, or it is something only a secret subgroup and the Patriarch can know, or if it is something we could have known at our clearance but just never cared enough to find out.
Edit: misread that, thought it was talking about the memory magic that reminded us of the Skaven (do we know what THAT is?) but on a reread, it meant the Lahmian conspiracy magic. Ooops.
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NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
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- the Philippines
Since a tornado was mentioned, a Storm of Magic is likely necessary.So what you're saying is that it is possible?
That is actually close to a standard effect. Battle Magic miscast table has a result of 'the spell casts with Irresistible Force, but you lose it for the rest of the battle' on a 12.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I accept this challenge that has been placed before me!
If I recall correctly there's a one-in-twelve chance on the tabletop that your miscast results in the spell being cast with Irresistable Force, with some minor side-effects like having the spell permanently burned out of your skull.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
I know we decided on the Dragon Altar, and I don't even necessarily disagree with that ... but should we maybe grab an Anti-Air tower anyway?
You know, if for no other reason then to prevent the first move of an enemy force being to fly directly to our tower and try to destroy it, which I think is pretty well within the realm of possibility.
You know, if for no other reason then to prevent the first move of an enemy force being to fly directly to our tower and try to destroy it, which I think is pretty well within the realm of possibility.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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- 「̛̛́́ ͏̨҉̕͏ ͏̶̴」
I see people talking about burning stuff out of their brains, and I remember us having a Belt that does it to enemy spellcasters, and I can't help but wonder how a Wizard - any Wizard - can have a part of their brain seared away and not suffer lasting brain damage.
The line between literal and metaphorical gets a lot more blurry when magic is involved.
It is more that 'lasting brain damage' is not nearly as lethal as most people seem to think.
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We have seen it with a Greenskin Shaman.
He just lost the spell and had some fierce headaches, no literally melted brain.
He just lost the spell and had some fierce headaches, no literally melted brain.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Huh, I wonder. Is the mountain already anti-air?
We can change where the sky the sun appears to come from, choosing of our own free will where the light, and thus our shadow, appears.
If we can decide where in the sky the sun is ... can we just put the sun below the elevation of the mountain? Would that change things so the Shadow is cast onto the sky instead onto the ground?
Is our Holy Dwarven Super Weapon already the mosy powerful anti-air weapon in the world?
Other mountains and the ground get in the way.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
That depends on which miscast table you're using. Boney is more using effects in line with the one from the RPG I believe.
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I strongly disagree with this and I really hope it's not even possible next social turn to double up on them.
Yeah, from reading the thread this turn, I think most people want to use the tower construction on a "standard" AA option, and the main disagreement I've seen is whether it should be Azyr (and hook into the Blue Tower) or Ulgu (and hook into the Grey Tower and any eventual battery that we put there).
Also good heavens the thread has a case of the sillies this morning.
The problem with the Hysh Dragon is that getting that impact is easier said than done.
The problem with Battle Magic payloads on your artillery is that if you miss you got battle magic hitting the wrong things
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- Utrecht
But for anything that's not a Hysh dragon...
Or enemies so large you can't miss... like ... what if we tried to reclaim thunder mountain?
Instead of spending Favor on a gun to make it hold a spell that's a peer to, or comparable to, Shadow Knives we should just cast Shadow Knives instead. It just seems... yeah. Wasteful.
I've long thought that being able to enchant a gun for stealth or subtlety would be a better use -- I've wondered about putting Cloak Activity on a gun, for example, so that Mathilde can just draw a gun while disguising the fact that she'd doing so, and without even needing to cast Cloak Activity herself. And the other idea was to...
Yeah, that. I've wondered about enchanting the gun have it not make noise or to eliminate muzzle flash.
Fortunately, all those things can be done with Ulgu spells!
Now that you mention it... I think there's something potentially very important to be doing in the EIC. Namely: internal security. Defensiveness.Yes.
More accurately, the potential embargo and Marianburg moving against the canals. I'd like to put the Hochlander on watching for Marianburg playing silly buggers with deniable assets in the empire, but I think it would be a good chance to see where Wilhelma is at, create a bonding moment between the old friends. To make policy for the EIC in light of these changes as a collective decision.
And to make sure we aren't missing anything from our analysis of the situation that they could tell us.
Because, what is an obvious target for Marienburg to infiltrate, bribe, subvert, sabotage, blackmail, or otherwise mess around with? The Imperial organization that is obviously and hugely involved with the entire canal project. From trading to negotiating with a Dwarf King, the leaders of the EIC have done it all.
So. I think that making sure that Marienburg can't screw with us, has just entered on the to-do list. I think we should take some kind of "security" or "anti-infiltration" action in the EIC. Protect it against hostile intent or action.
That sounds like taking either or both (probably both, but which first?) the "introduce ciphers to increase internal communication security" and the "auditors division" actions. Possibly the "start hiring handlers" action afterwards, too.
[ ] Have the Hochlander introduce a series of ciphers to the EIC to allow it to communicate internally in much greater security. (NEW)
[ ] Found an auditors division, to make sure the ledgers are in order.
[ ] Start hiring handlers who can then start hiring informers and begin to collect non-public information.
[ ] Start building a paramilitary river navy to ensure the coming trade explosion doesn't lead to a similar explosion in riverine banditry.
Oh, and probably the "start building a paramilitary river navy" action too. Because inserting spies isn't the only thing Marienburg can do. Funding pirates or bandits is also a possibility. Also, this is just a useful action on its own, increases the security of trade.
Dammit. So many things that need to get done. Some of them needing to get done yesterday.
And to think that the EIC's role and importance and value will probably only increase to us, what with how it'll either be useful in helping the Empire weather a trade war, or be useful to the Empire by giving it lots of wealth. So there'll be even more things we'll be able to do to help the Empire and/or the Karaz Ankor. But we have to play catch up with things like security, too.
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I actually disagree here - both in that I don't think we know that'd cost 15 favour, and that we have so much Dwarf/Runesmith favour we're unlikely to ever run out. No comment on the rest of the post.
Very interested! It's how you do the Big Magics!
I haven't been able to find a list of rituals online, and I'll note that we don't know any in the quest because we haven't made any attempt to learn about rituals and what might be available. But I would be extremely surprised if they were somehow less impressive than regular spells despite the long casting time and potentially expensive reagents - if nothing else, Boney wouldn't let them be.
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With the Low Queekish dictionary complete it looks like we're getting close to receiving a new project. As a reminder I believe this is the last list of projects we got to choose from:
Of course we might just be auto-assigned a project which I think is quite likely. With how Belegar feels about K8P's magic being taken it certainly seems like that's our most likely future project. As such we should prioritize getting resources to help with this. The other likely auto-assign project would be dealing with the Dragon, however we already have anti-dragon weapons.
Additionally I can see investigating the Marienburg situation and creating magesight spectacles also being projects to be added to the list should there not be a project assigned.
Of course we might just be auto-assigned a project which I think is quite likely. With how Belegar feels about K8P's magic being taken it certainly seems like that's our most likely future project. As such we should prioritize getting resources to help with this. The other likely auto-assign project would be dealing with the Dragon, however we already have anti-dragon weapons.
Additionally I can see investigating the Marienburg situation and creating magesight spectacles also being projects to be added to the list should there not be a project assigned.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Hmm... I wonder if there might a ritual to draw winds out of objects, or if it's possible to design one? Something that creates a sort of 'wind vacuum', for lack of a better term? Because while we know that regular magic can't fix the Chamon issue with Johann's eyes, it strikes me that it might be possible to design a ritual which can.