Guile
Having a really great time right now
Plus, not like we need him, but we could get back in touch with Jack while we do it! Jack was cool.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Jack Albright, gentlemen thief, I think a Ranaldian, we hired him to run the Watch for us.
Just looked it up myself.
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- Aotearoa
And probably the person most responsible for Mathilde's taste for title accumulation.
I felt like there's probably more to it than just "Ho ho, Dwarfs would attack a mountain if it wronged them!" Like for example, there was the "underpaid by 2 coins" story too; and in-quest it turned out to be an apocryphal or tall tale story, because there were like 5 different versions of that story. So if everybody had a variant of that story, if it's the sort of story that shows up everywhere -- that sounds like it's probably like a common cultural myth a what do you call it... folk tale or myth maybe? Dammit. Neither of those words sound quite right, but I can't think of the words or phrase that perfectly fit...
Although I suppose it could be true. That it's an example that if Dwarfs suffer tragedy or are hurt badly, then those emotions need to be addressed or worked out someway. And so in one situation, the elders decided to take out all the aggression and sorrow on the mountain, as it made for a harmless outlet that wouldn't hurt anybody.
Hm. Thinking about it, I suppose I could see something like that being done by people in general. Like for example, if a province got raided by Beastmen or Goblins out of a forest... deciding that they were utterly sick of that shit, and deciding to clear-cut the forest so it wouldn't ever happen again. Though I guess that's a bit more tactical and reasonable than "a rockslide happened; let's tear down and quarry the shit out of that mountain!"
Ehh, she was an attention seeker before that, it's after the knighting.
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- Aotearoa
I dunno, this was a moment of sheer delight. (Both to read, and for Matty.)
Could have been the moment she realised these things didn't need to begin and end with official titles.
Roswita did tell us the Ghoul Wood is being clear-cut, even to loss-per-log.
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tapkomet
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus
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- Ukraine
Do you mean "urban legend"?
Ehh, she like unofficial titles for the recognition, but she's not really been chasing them.
You can't really clear-cut forests in the Old World. There is more forest in the Empire than there is 'everything else put together'. The best you can do is drive it back.
It does sound like a useful cultural pressure valve. No need for anyone to blame themselves or each other after the battle almost went so badly, it's the mountain's fault for intruding on their battle. And there might be genuine strategic benefits to it if the battle took place close to their Hold and there was a reasonable chance of having to fight there again in the future, removing unsure ground and replacing it with nice clear firing lines.
But when the story gets retold amongst manlings, the nuance is stripped away and it becomes the tale of those ridiculous Dwarves who declared a Grudge against a mountain.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
That council has 15 people on it. Do they have ties very frequently?
Abstentions and absentees, I figure.
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- Actually pretty lost
Probably more of the former than the latter. Why skip a vote you don't care about, when you can sell your vote or lack thereof to someone who does?
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King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Why sell you're vote to one group to vote for what they want, when you can sell you're vote to every group to not vote for what they don't want, essentially getting paid by everyone to stay out of it?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
If memory serves, Dwarfs were under attack from a Goblin Shaman, and then he did as they often do, which is blow up. Him blowing up caused a cave-in that killed some 10,000 Dwarfs. The Shaman was dead by his own hand, so the only target left to try to have some measure of restitution was the mountain itself.
With a Grudge, it's not enough that the target dies, Dwarfs have to play some sort of role, even indirectly, for it to have the right weight. That's my understanding, at least.
A deliberate effort over a generation or two can make add up. And you don't need to clearcut. Just taking it from deep, untraversable forest to a much sparser would help.
That might honestly be a good idea for a law. Every non-city dweller (or also city dwellers to sneak in some extra taxes) has to cut down some number of trees per year. No need to do anything with the wood, just to say fuck you forest (or more specifically, forest gribblies). The effects are either much lighter forest around villages, which is good, or swathes useful for traversal when hunting gribblies.
Marienburg also is full of rich people who make money via rent-seeking rather than productive work, where bribery and corruption are a way of life. An almost entirely useless but impressive sounding post is a great way to get your useless cousin a steady paycheck and some prestige without actually needing to rely on their competence in any way.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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- Earth
The Staadtholder has to be one of the 15 people on the council. That's not exactly a job without power.
The gribblies tend to object to that sort of thing. So do some of the trees.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
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- At Home
The positions of the Ten tend to have a fairly high turnover rate, so it's not surprising that there would be a perceived need for a tiebreaker given that there might be no telling how the next vote will turn out.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
The griblies are enemies, and the trees enemies for helping them hide from the wrath of the empire!
/sigmarite
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- Actually pretty lost
This, but unironically
