Yes to the first, try it and find out to the second. But since Johann has a tested and guaranteed path to full functionality, he's unlikely to want you flirting with Dhar somewhere with a direct pipeline into his brainmeats for the sake of a completely untested treatment that puts him back to square one.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Yes to the first, try it and find out to the second. But since Johann has a tested and guaranteed path to full functionality, he's unlikely to want you flirting with Dhar somewhere with a direct pipeline into his brainmeats for the sake of a completely untested treatment that puts him back to square one.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
You know, When asked earlier whether we could do anything to help with that Boney said to try it and see, but I am reminded of that one time Mathilde ripped an actively miscasting spell from Gretel's jaw. would it theoretically be easier to take out just the regular settled Chamon? Not necessarily less dangerous, of course, but easier?
It would take years of study or access to some enormous secrets of the Gold College just to be able to confirm or deny whether 'regular settled Chamon' is what's going on here. And if you don't manage to excise every single bit of it in a single motion, you'll be dumping Dhar into Johann's brain. But if you assume that it is just completely normal Chamon, then yes, it would be comparable in difficulty to fielding that miscast.
- Location
- Aotearoa
Yeah, I get that, makes sense- Dhar in your eye socket is no joke...
It's just I (just) noticed Mathilde conspicuously hadn't offered to Seed the damage, wondered if she was in-character aware of that excess Chamon and thus the risk.
Edit: ah I see you've expanded on it already.
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The Seed is a very nice hammer, but this isn't a nail. It couldn't be less of a nail. It's something very delicate, filled with something very volatile, next to something very irreplaceable.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
...I'm almost sad he didn't screw up worse so we could have a viable excuse to study that shit.
Or just get him to tell us the secret, but that's too easy. This--almost--calls for SCIENCE!
- Location
- Aotearoa
I dunno, Johann's brain isn't that impressive. Kragg and ourselves could probably work up a quick Bok-style automaton to keep up the Punch Wizarding.
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- Location
- Greece
Considering the iteration of the universe we live in, if we go that way, it is possible that we'll end up in a surreal situation where we'll be arguing with the high priest of Sigmar about assisting the dwarves... with the high priest being the one against it.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
while (i==1)[]Can I punch it?
-[] Yes
--[]Does it help?
---[]Yes? Huzzah! We're done! Commence Punch Wizarding.
---[]No? ...uhh
----[]Punch anyway.
-[] No
--[]...uhh
---[]Punch anyway.
I haf improved upon the program.
{
punch();
i=1;
}
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- Location
- Norway
Here's a nickel, kid, buy yourself a more elegant language from a more civilized age.
Like Python:🐍
Code:
while True:
punch()
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
- Location
- A Valid Location
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Visual Basic is Dwarfier.Here's a nickel, kid, buy yourself a more elegant language from a more civilized age.
Code:while True: punch()
- Location
- Aotearoa
AssembleRunery was good enough for the Ancestors, and it's still good enough now, by Morgrim.
Warhammer Faction Programming Languages
- Location
- Norway
Great, now you guys have me writing up a longer and sillier list.
Warhammer Faction Programming Languages:
Elves write in Lisp: invented at the dawn of time, looks incomprehensible to normal humans, full of elegant curvature, mostly stays aloof and distant from every other language.
Imperials write in Java: it only sometimes explodes, it's full of squiggles and messy bits, there's a lot of rote chanting of "public static void main String args" by people who don't really understand what they're doing but it seems to work.
Dwarfs write in Rust: full of safety guarantees to prevent unwanted exploding, but it's complicated and intimidating and obscure enough that it's rarely seen outside the Dwarf Programming Guilds.
Vampires write in C: in many ways similar to Java, but more powerful and more dangerous and even more likely to explode if you're not a vampire with a hundred years of experience.
Tomb Kings write in COBOL: it's ancient, it's full of traps for the unwary, if it's in working order you probably shouldn't touch it or you'll get blamed for everything that goes wrong.
Slann write in Assembler: the raw power of the universe at your fingertips, but it takes ages to read through it trying to understand the Great Plan, and a typo can easily mess up everything instead of just being a syntax error.
Chaos writes in Perl: OCR'ed paint splatter is a valid program, everyone else thinks this is bullshit hax and the chaos gods cheat, that shouldn't work.
Skaven write in PHP: it's a fractal of bad design propped up by Warpstone, C wrappers, and a kitchen-sink/copy-paste design style. Regularly collapses but there's always more.
The Golden Age wrote in Python: the elves streamlined the keywords and design of the language, the dwarfs demanded everything must be precisely and exactly indented.
You have a valid point.
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Sub GOLDPUNCHER ()
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Sub GOLDPUNCHER ()
Dim Target as Object
Dim TargetList() as Object
Dim CTarget as Object
Dim Surroundings as Area
Dim PunchLim as Integer
Dim PunchCount as Integer
Dim ProbPres as Integer
Dim Answer as Variant
Dim Answer2 as Variant
ProbPres = 0
Set Surroundings = ActiveArea
For Each Target in Surroundings.Objects
PunchLim = 5
Do While ProbPres <> 0
MsgBox "All problems successfully punched!"
End Sub
Dim Target as Object
Dim TargetList() as Object
Dim CTarget as Object
Dim Surroundings as Area
Dim PunchLim as Integer
Dim PunchCount as Integer
Dim ProbPres as Integer
Dim Answer as Variant
Dim Answer2 as Variant
ProbPres = 0
Set Surroundings = ActiveArea
For Each Target in Surroundings.Objects
If IDProblem(Target) = True then
ProbPres = ProbPres + 1
ReDim Preserve TargetList(1 to ProbPres)
Set TargetList(ProbPres) = Target
End if
NextPunchLim = 5
Do While ProbPres <> 0
PunchCount = 0
Set CTarget = TargetList(ProbPres)
Do While PunchCount < PunchLim
Call MAXIMUMPUNCH(CTarget)
If IDProblem(CTarget) = False Then
'Current problem dealt with
PunchCount = PunchLim
Else
PunchCount = PunchCount + 1
If PunchCount = PunchLim
Answer = MsgBox("Punching " & CTarget.Name & " does not appear to be working! Maybe you should try something else?", vbYesNo)
If Answer = vbNo then
PunchCount = 0
Else
Answer2 = vbNullString
Do While Answer2 <> vbYes
Answer2 = MsgBox("You appear to have said you don't want to keep punching. Surely this is a mistake?", vbYesNo)
Loop
PunchCount = 0
End If
End If
End If
Loop
ProbPres = ProbPres - 1
LoopMsgBox "All problems successfully punched!"
End Sub
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No, dwaves code in Java: it's pretty good with objects, not so with more abstract models; it's good for banks and enterprise application but too cumbersome for bashing an MVP together in a week; it's big on inheritance; it's pretty depending on Ancestor Corporations; and their numbers are dwindling (at least relatively).
Humans code in JavaScript: allegedly inspired by Java but nothing like it; really messy but very prolific; multiparadigmal but using multiple paradigms at once results in Dhar; ecosystem changes very fast; and there's more of JS developers every day.
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Orcs program in Matlab: Nobody, including the users, is sure if it should count as a programming language, but they don't care anyway because they're busy throwing things together until it works. It also has a little brother for people without enough teef, which is basically the same except not.
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Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
I almost regret not knowing anything about programming to be able to participate in this particular bout of thread madness. It seems fun.
- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Don't forget ritual magic. Mathilde might not have a trait for it like with Enchanting, but ritual magic probably underpins many of the largest magical constructions and events that she might encounter. And both Mathilde and the thread doesn't really know much about ritual magic at all.
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
Regarding pickel's skeleton plan, I'm not particularly interested in poking the We for understing of their what and how, I was mostly focused on the who, so I'm satisfied with our social action
And I think it might take a personal action to get a helper person up to speed with the EIC too, so if so I would prefer that to the We action.
If it does not take a personal action, I will probably be in favour of one or two other other choices, but we'll see when the updoot lands.
And I think it might take a personal action to get a helper person up to speed with the EIC too, so if so I would prefer that to the We action.
If it does not take a personal action, I will probably be in favour of one or two other other choices, but we'll see when the updoot lands.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
<--- Did his first major project in MATLAB.
I want to be offended but I can't fully disagree. Is this why orcs choose to punch people in the face? 🤔
Believe me, I've been there too. I don't even have the excuse that it was my first project.
The alternative was Labview, but that's not giving the Orcs enough credit. Maybe Hedge Wizards program in Labview. If nothing else, it's certain to drive any use out of their mind.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Considering the difficulties wizards have in describing magic and spells to one another, maybe they all use subtly different variants of the same language? Ones that are almost identical, but have juuuust enough differences that you can't simply copy-paste code chunks from one to another?
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
personally any action plan for the next turn must have one of the following.
More waystone classes, Ritual magic classes, Diplomacy classes or a powerstone creation class.
Also think we should try and see if Wolf has any potential academic or really any creative areas he might want be interested in exploring. Never know, plus I kinda want Wolf to have more narrative prominence..
An ulgu tongs action would be nice to finally see if there's actually viability to it especially given the wind herder trait.
More waystone classes, Ritual magic classes, Diplomacy classes or a powerstone creation class.
Also think we should try and see if Wolf has any potential academic or really any creative areas he might want be interested in exploring. Never know, plus I kinda want Wolf to have more narrative prominence..
An ulgu tongs action would be nice to finally see if there's actually viability to it especially given the wind herder trait.
Why different languages? It's enough trouble to understand your own code six months later, much less some else's. And I imagine copypasting works, until it suddenly doesn't anymore (so no great change there either).
If we instituted corporal punishment every time an error is produced, people would be a lot more careful in their code review.